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Post by mrperson on Nov 9, 2015 14:52:42 GMT
Hey everyone, So, how do you feel about Big Finish handling the Time War? RTD has described it as an undescriable unfathomable confict and yet Big Finish next month will define it - while I'm sure they'll be a line ("contained in somewhat linear time") and it's a mere event, I can't quite feel that perhaps it was best left part of the Who and this untouched fiery thing which nearly burnt our hero to a cinder. I felt that way for a long time and still do to some extent. But, I trust Big Finish and I simply cannot work up an argument whose end result is "no John Hurt".
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Post by Ela on Nov 9, 2015 19:06:43 GMT
I'm looking forward to what Big Finish will do. Haven't read Engines of War and wasn't much interested in it, but some of you seem to be saying it was worth reading, so I'll reconsider.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Nov 9, 2015 19:24:17 GMT
I don't think any story should be off limits and honestly, I feel like audio is the better medium to tell this story. Visually nothing will ever be big enough to do something like the Time War justice but on audio with our imagination filling in so much of the canvas, well, I just think it will work better.
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Post by seeley on Nov 10, 2015 0:23:22 GMT
I'm looking forward to what Big Finish will do. Haven't read Engines of War and wasn't much interested in it, but some of you seem to be saying it was worth reading, so I'll reconsider. It won't blow you away, but it's a worthy, diverting read (if a bit oddly obsessed with continuity from the Five Doctors.)
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Nov 10, 2015 0:35:25 GMT
Plenty of others down the years, Daleks, Cybermen, Navarinos, Nekistani et al have had some form of time travel so the "Time Lords", while probably the first don't have the monopoly on it. The fact that it defines them as a species is what makes them Time Lords. And if you can affect that then Gallifrey instantly has its back to the wall, especially if a regeneration killing virus should ever exist
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Post by omega on Nov 10, 2015 2:43:51 GMT
Plenty of others down the years, Daleks, Cybermen, Navarinos, Nekistani et al have had some form of time travel so the "Time Lords", while probably the first don't have the monopoly on it. The fact that it defines them as a species is what makes them Time Lords. And if you can affect that then Gallifrey instantly has its back to the wall, especially if a regeneration killing virus should ever exist Wasn't the regeneration killing virus a plot point in the Gallifrey audios? The EDA novel The Banquo Legacy definitely had the Eighth Doctor unable to regenerate if he died (he was being tracked down by Time Lords who were desperate to win the War).
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 10, 2015 2:59:07 GMT
Plenty of others down the years, Daleks, Cybermen, Navarinos, Nekistani et al have had some form of time travel so the "Time Lords", while probably the first don't have the monopoly on it. The fact that it defines them as a species is what makes them Time Lords. And if you can affect that then Gallifrey instantly has its back to the wall, especially if a regeneration killing virus should ever exist Wasn't the regeneration killing virus a plot point in the Gallifrey audios? The EDA novel The Banquo Legacy definitely had the Eighth Doctor unable to regenerate if he died (he was being tracked down by Time Lords who were desperate to win the War). If I remember correctly, the virus in the Gallifrey audios turned Time Lords evil once they regenerated.
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Post by omega on Nov 10, 2015 3:07:32 GMT
Wasn't the regeneration killing virus a plot point in the Gallifrey audios? The EDA novel The Banquo Legacy definitely had the Eighth Doctor unable to regenerate if he died (he was being tracked down by Time Lords who were desperate to win the War). If I remember correctly, the virus in the Gallifrey audios turned Time Lords evil once they regenerated. I'm rather impressed you didn't think I was referring to the Time War!
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Post by Ela on Nov 10, 2015 3:18:27 GMT
I'm looking forward to what Big Finish will do. Haven't read Engines of War and wasn't much interested in it, but some of you seem to be saying it was worth reading, so I'll reconsider. It won't blow you away, but it's a worthy, diverting read (if a bit oddly obsessed with continuity from the Five Doctors.) Thanks for the input.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 10, 2015 3:44:04 GMT
If I remember correctly, the virus in the Gallifrey audios turned Time Lords evil once they regenerated. I'm rather impressed you didn't think I was referring to the Time War! Well, apart from some vague hints, the Time War hasn't actually been part of the Gallifrey audios yet.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Nov 10, 2015 13:38:57 GMT
I think BF doing parts fo the Time War would be interesting. Seeing as I always pictured it being mix of normal battles and then some out there metaphysical stuff. The Nightmare Child would be something interestin
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Post by elkawho on Nov 10, 2015 13:53:32 GMT
I'm one of those that agree with RTD. Undescribable and unfathomable, so I'm a little nervous about this. I'm one of those that think all of the Time War should be left up to the imagination, however I also knew that eventually writers would want to explore it in more and more depth. That being said, if anyone was going to do it, I'm glad it's BF and not TV Who (yet). They're the only ones that can truly attempt to do it justice.
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Post by Digi on Nov 11, 2015 3:14:11 GMT
I'm looking forward to what Big Finish will do. Haven't read Engines of War and wasn't much interested in it, but some of you seem to be saying it was worth reading, so I'll reconsider. I have pretty much zero interest in prose DW, but I took a chance on Engines of War--and I loved it. It's not a long read, but definitely enjoyable. I hear the audiobook (narrated by Nick Briggs!) is quite good too, but as far as I can tell, it's not available to buy here in North America =\
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 11, 2015 4:02:11 GMT
I'm looking forward to what Big Finish will do. Haven't read Engines of War and wasn't much interested in it, but some of you seem to be saying it was worth reading, so I'll reconsider. I have pretty much zero interest in prose DW, but I took a chance on Engines of War--and I loved it. It's not a long read, but definitely enjoyable. I hear the audiobook (narrated by Nick Briggs!) is quite good too, but as far as I can tell, it's not available to buy here in North America =\ I got it on Audible in America.
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Post by Ela on Nov 11, 2015 4:37:24 GMT
Yeah, it's available on Audible. And you can get copies from third party sellers.
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Post by omega on Nov 11, 2015 7:24:32 GMT
I hear the audiobook (narrated by Nick Briggs!) is quite good too, but as far as I can tell, it's not available to buy here in North America =\ Have you tried Book Depository? You won't get a download, but it's free shipping and reliable delivery. Here's a handy link.
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Post by kurumais on Nov 12, 2015 15:38:16 GMT
i think its going to be near impossible to live up to. the wild and obscure hints we were given in the show made it a mythical war like paradise lost angels throwing volcanos at each other lelevel stuff. a time war is everything dr who isnt. its big huge hollywood blockbuster 250 million dollar budget stuff. dr who was never that not even in the new series with bigger budgets and effects. also the doctor pacifism to me has been poorly managed and heavy handed and contradictory what ever writer that takes on the time war is going to try to live up to that poor standard somehow instead of just going all out space war. which it should be. it was a wonderful unexpected and complete out of place addition to the doctor who mytho that as purely background lore vaguely alluded too worked perfectly. now you have to live up to the hype it cant be just another story because its not.
good luck big finish
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Post by yiffniff on Nov 14, 2015 3:02:04 GMT
This has to be a tragedy, right? It has to be the thing that drives 8 to suicide. So, we know worlds like the Zygon planet are destroyed, I'm guessing every character The Doctor knows on Gallifrey has to die horribly right? Time will tell ...
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 14, 2015 3:05:53 GMT
This has to be a tragedy, right? It has to be the thing that drives 8 to suicide. So, we know worlds like the Zygon planet are destroyed, I'm guessing every character The Doctor knows on Gallifrey has to die horribly right? Time will tell ... As terrible as the Time War is supposed to be, I just can't see them killing off Romana, Leela, Ace and K9.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Nov 14, 2015 3:18:03 GMT
This has to be a tragedy, right? It has to be the thing that drives 8 to suicide. So, we know worlds like the Zygon planet are destroyed, I'm guessing every character The Doctor knows on Gallifrey has to die horribly right? Time will tell ... As terrible as the Time War is supposed to be, I just can't see them killing off Romana, Leela, Ace and K9. Oh it would be easy to kill off K9, it's been done already. There's always another K9.
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