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Post by shallacatop on Nov 24, 2018 18:54:44 GMT
Interesting points about the order of the range. Silenced is one large story that’s split into four fairly standalone instalments that are spread across at least a few months. Encounters consists of standalone stories too, but the final one leads into Cyber Reality. And Hosts of the Wirrn front Revisitations links to the final episode of Cyber Reality. Breach of Trust and Open the Box are standalone too. shallacatop - I've never thought about The Power of Three and The Day of the Doctor as being in the the opposite order for Kate. Outside of River Song, the TV series has never really gone out of its way to tell stories out of chronological sequence in this manner, and since it was never verbally addressed onscreen, I think this head-canon is just a bit confusing, personally. Just to clarify, I wouldn’t call it headcanon. It’s just an interpretation of what we’ve seen and been told. I’m not saying it’s right, it’s just the impression I got from watching the stories.
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Post by Whovitt on Nov 24, 2018 23:36:29 GMT
I'm pretty certain the Josh thing is mentioned. I think it's mentioned in every set just to make everyone aware that it's a thing (in case you haven't listened to Extinction). That was something I’d noticed in the two sets I’ve heard other than Extinction (Encounters and Cyber-Reality). All you can really do is chalk the Day of the Doctor reference in Shutdown, down as a continuity error then, that is if the wiki hasn’t misinterpreted the line. Another issue that crops up is the fact that Lady Christina occurs shortly after Cyber-Reality, though again from what I’ve heard from other’s, having not heard the set myself, apparently Christina talks as though she’s just come out of Planet Of the Dead. Oh, Lady Christina definitely takes place... I'd say an absolute minimum of three years after Planet of the Dead. Sylvia mentions that Wilf's health has started to deteriorate slowly, and he seemed very fit in The End of Time. I'd say this gives a reasonable time gap between PofD and the box set As there's nothing definitive though, I think it's fair to assume you can slot it in anywhere you like, so post- Cyber-Reality works fine, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 23:41:17 GMT
Does the behind-the-scenes disc give any hint as to what's coming in the next set?
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Nov 24, 2018 23:42:09 GMT
That was something I’d noticed in the two sets I’ve heard other than Extinction (Encounters and Cyber-Reality). All you can really do is chalk the Day of the Doctor reference in Shutdown, down as a continuity error then, that is if the wiki hasn’t misinterpreted the line. Another issue that crops up is the fact that Lady Christina occurs shortly after Cyber-Reality, though again from what I’ve heard from other’s, having not heard the set myself, apparently Christina talks as though she’s just come out of Planet Of the Dead. Oh, Lady Christina definitely takes place... I'd say an absolute minimum of three years after Planet of the Dead. Sylvia mentions that Wilf's health has started to deteriorate slowly, and he seemed very fit in The End of Time. I'd say this gives a reasonable time gap between PofD and the box set As there's nothing definitive though, I think it's fair to assume you can slot it in anywhere you like, so post- Cyber-Reality works fine, I think. I think Sam was supposed to be cleaning up after the fall of the Auctioneers in Lady Christina. Im glad there’s more clarification for the placement of Lady Christina as all I knew was that it was definitely after March 2010, as Donna is married.
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Post by Stan on Nov 25, 2018 18:14:02 GMT
The computer voice made me think of ‘Night Flight to Venus’…
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Nov 26, 2018 0:18:25 GMT
Sgt. Brundle. Good one Chris Chapman. and the machines that go *ping* a Meaning of Life reference. I’m in love with episode one.
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Post by number13 on Nov 26, 2018 0:32:42 GMT
Could it be that Assembled comes earlier than the rest? It seems to be the odd one out because the first three and latest three sets are directly linked, but again I don’t know much about that set. It would really depend on continuity references to previous sets and whether or not there’s any mention of Josh’s Auton-ness. I'm pretty certain the Josh thing is mentioned. I think it's mentioned in every set just to make everyone aware that it's a thing (in case you haven't listened to Extinction). Yes and it comes in very handy too -
{Spoiler} a Silurian warrior is in close combat with Josh and she's surprised to find his body is much stronger than the other humans she has already fought - and killed.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Nov 26, 2018 1:27:04 GMT
I'm pretty certain the Josh thing is mentioned. I think it's mentioned in every set just to make everyone aware that it's a thing (in case you haven't listened to Extinction). Yes and it comes in very handy too - a Silurian warrior is in close combat with Josh and she's surprised to find his body is much stronger than the other humans she has already fought - and killed. I suppose you could still slip it in between Extinction and Shutdown though. But I’ve heard that Shindi is working with Klein in Geneva or something during that story whereas he’s recovering from his injuries in Extinction during Shutdown and is still in a wheelchair yet back on the field by Silenced. At this point I’d rather just leave it all pre-Day of the Doctor as that makes so much more sense.
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Post by shallacatop on Nov 26, 2018 7:04:41 GMT
Does the behind-the-scenes disc give any hint as to what's coming in the next set? Unfortunately not.
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Post by lidar2 on Nov 26, 2018 10:38:06 GMT
That was something I’d noticed in the two sets I’ve heard other than Extinction (Encounters and Cyber-Reality). All you can really do is chalk the Day of the Doctor reference in Shutdown, down as a continuity error then, that is if the wiki hasn’t misinterpreted the line. Another issue that crops up is the fact that Lady Christina occurs shortly after Cyber-Reality, though again from what I’ve heard from other’s, having not heard the set myself, apparently Christina talks as though she’s just come out of Planet Of the Dead. Oh, Lady Christina definitely takes place... I'd say an absolute minimum of three years after Planet of the Dead. Sylvia mentions that Wilf's health has started to deteriorate slowly, and he seemed very fit in The End of Time. I'd say this gives a reasonable time gap between PofD and the box set As there's nothing definitive though, I think it's fair to assume you can slot it in anywhere you like, so post- Cyber-Reality works fine, I think. I assumed the 4 episodes in Lady Christina were spread out over a longer time period, i.e. ep 1 takes place shortly after Planet of the Dead, ep 2 takes place a year or two after End of Time, eps 3 & 4 are later again around the time of the UNIT box sets. I don't recall anything that implied they took place one straight after another.
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Post by Whovitt on Nov 26, 2018 13:14:12 GMT
Oh, Lady Christina definitely takes place... I'd say an absolute minimum of three years after Planet of the Dead. Sylvia mentions that Wilf's health has started to deteriorate slowly, and he seemed very fit in The End of Time. I'd say this gives a reasonable time gap between PofD and the box set As there's nothing definitive though, I think it's fair to assume you can slot it in anywhere you like, so post- Cyber-Reality works fine, I think. I assumed the 4 episodes in Lady Christina were spread out over a longer time period, i.e. ep 1 takes place shortly after Planet of the Dead, ep 2 takes place a year or two after End of Time, eps 3 & 4 are later again around the time of the UNIT box sets. I don't recall anything that implied they took place one straight after another. It could equally be argued that there isn't really anything that gives any indication that there is that much time between them Honestly, it doesn't really concern me that much. I just like to have a little play around with the timelines every now and then - it's not something I'm all that invested in, and everyone can interpret it however they like
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Nov 27, 2018 0:17:42 GMT
Hosts of the Wirrn parts 1 & 2. It has been some time since Big Finish treated us to a full blown David Cronenberg style body-horror adventure and this was it. Loved all the pop culture and movie references. Loved the build-up. Loved pretty much everything about it. Great start to the set.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Nov 27, 2018 23:33:48 GMT
Breach of Trust by David K Barnes Well. That was rather good as well, wasn't it? Between this and The Dalek Occupation of Winter Barnes is batting 2 for 2.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 7:28:27 GMT
Breach of Trust by David K Barnes Well. That was rather good as well, wasn't it? Between this and The Dalek Occupation of Winter Barnes is batting 2 for 2. Yes was my favourite out of the set
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Post by number13 on Nov 29, 2018 9:25:25 GMT
Could we have a poll for the three stories please omega ? Ta.
(And the 7NAs stories please! )
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 9:31:13 GMT
You know, I've been looking into diving into the UNIT series for a while now and I think Captain Chin Lee's appearance and ties to The Mind of Evil in Open the Box may just do it.
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Post by number13 on Nov 29, 2018 9:36:57 GMT
You know, I've been looking into diving into the UNIT series for a while now and I think Captain Chin Lee's appearance and ties to The Mind of Evil in Open the Box may just do it. I liked that story a lot, a proper sequel with all the continuity nods we'd hope for and it progresses the idea and the characters.
And the Wirrn 'four-parter' (in Classic terms!) is a cracking New UNIT story - the science and the action sides both very well done, and it does Robert Holmes' creations proud!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 9:38:01 GMT
You know, I've been looking into diving into the UNIT series for a while now and I think Captain Chin Lee's appearance and ties to The Mind of Evil in Open the Box may just do it. I liked that story a lot, a proper sequel with all the continuity nods we'd hope for and it progresses the idea and the characters.
And the Wirrn 'four-parter' (in Classic terms!) is a cracking UNIT story and does Robert Holmes' creations proud!
I'm in! That sounds fantastic.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Dec 3, 2018 20:41:17 GMT
I liked Open the Box as well, Roy Gill is a really good writer, but to me the previous two stories are in a different weight class. This is a range firing on all thrusters at the moment.
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Post by shallacatop on Dec 3, 2018 21:03:54 GMT
I liked Open the Box as well, Roy Gill is a really good writer, but to me the previous two stories are in a different weight class. This is a range firing on all thrusters at the moment. Absolutely. Revisitations is terrific and I think the best UNIT set so far. The only criticism I’d say is that there’s almost a reset button between each story. They’re all brilliant, they’re well told smaller scale stories and are using the characters effectively. The first two end on cliffhangers of sorts; a new recruit for UNIT, tense friction and ramifications for the characters and crushing choices made by Kate. It’s just a shame none of it really carries on. There’s scope for them to be referenced in the following stories, it just doesn’t happen. The range has certainly found what it’s missing - 7 sets in - but it just needs that little bit more. Let’s hope Volume 8 brings it.
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