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Post by literatedead on Feb 7, 2019 18:07:23 GMT
I admit, I'm not really a big fan of audiobooks on their own (it was what kept me from checking out BF originally!), but I hated, hated, hated the finale of the series so much I'm buying this just to hear what the original intended conclusion was. Plus, considering adapter Scott Harrison wrote The Houses In Between, I have faith in their work.
Also, the runtime is listed as 330 minutes so... more than six hours? Woah. That may go into explaining why this is going to be download only.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 18:39:37 GMT
I admit, I'm not really a big fan of audiobooks on their own (it was what kept me from checking out BF originally!), but I hated, hated, hated the finale of the series so much I'm buying this just to hear what the original intended conclusion was. Plus, considering adapter Scott Harrison wrote The Houses In Between, I have faith in their work.
Also, the runtime is listed as 330 minutes so... more than six hours? Woah. That may go into explaining why this is going to be download only.
Yes. The finale was horrendous. Pathetic.
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Post by fingersmash on Feb 7, 2019 18:50:17 GMT
The only thing that didn't make this an instant pre-order for me was the fact I had to leave for an 8 AM class. I bought it during lunch.
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Post by Digi on Feb 7, 2019 19:41:52 GMT
I admit, I'm not really a big fan of audiobooks on their own (it was what kept me from checking out BF originally!), but I hated, hated, hated the finale of the series so much I'm buying this just to hear what the original intended conclusion was. Plus, considering adapter Scott Harrison wrote The Houses In Between, I have faith in their work.
Also, the runtime is listed as 330 minutes so... more than six hours? Woah. That may go into explaining why this is going to be download only.
Yes. The finale was horrendous. Pathetic. It wouldn't kill you to try being polite.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 19:50:58 GMT
Yes. The finale was horrendous. Pathetic. It wouldn't kill you to try being polite. Well, it probably was a bit harsh... but true nonetheless. I also thought it was a bad way to end a great series. The finale was a BIG let down.
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Post by fingersmash on Feb 7, 2019 19:58:34 GMT
It wouldn't kill you to try being polite. Well, it probably was a bit harsh... but true nonetheless. I also thought it was a bad way to end a great series. The finale was a BIG let down. I agree. I'll probably accept this as the true ending of the series.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 20:09:56 GMT
I also thought it was a bad way to end a great series. The finale was a BIG let down. I agree. I'll probably accept this as the true ending of the series. It certainly will be interesting to see (hear) what they had originally planned as the ending.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 20:13:34 GMT
Yes. The finale was horrendous. Pathetic. It wouldn't kill you to try being polite. Polite to who? I am just giving my opinion in this forum. I am not writing a rude letter to the writer. Also, if you look at this forum & other threads (such as the last movie you watched) there are plenty of people saying similar things about various things they have watched or listened to. Why single me out?
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 7, 2019 20:24:59 GMT
Some of the writers of various stories Big Finish release are on this forum .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 20:41:08 GMT
Some of the writers of various stories Big Finish release are on this forum . Fair enough but firstly, we shouldn't let that inhibit us from freely giving our opinions. In fact does that mean we can't offer negative opinions on anything in case someone involved reads it? Secondly I am not the first person here to voice their negative opinions so why was I singled me out? For example earlier in this thread someone said they hated it (using the word hated 3 times no less) but they weren't singled out?
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 7, 2019 20:48:02 GMT
Some of the writers of various stories Big Finish release are on this forum . Fair enough but firstly, we shouldn't let that inhibit us from freely giving our opinions. In fact does that mean we can't offer negative opinions on anything in case someone involved reads it? Secondly I am not the first person here to voice their negative opinions so why was I singled me out? For example earlier in this thread someone said they hated it (using the word hated 3 times no less) but they weren't singled out? Constructive criticism. By showing example(s) of parts you didn't like and possibly providing alternatives. Assume the person who created the work is reading your feedback, that's how you can get your message across .
(This is for everyone on this forum equally- you can be firm but fair in your choosing of words).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 20:50:58 GMT
Fair enough but firstly, we shouldn't let that inhibit us from freely giving our opinions. In fact does that mean we can't offer negative opinions on anything in case someone involved reads it? Secondly I am not the first person here to voice their negative opinions so why was I singled me out? For example earlier in this thread someone said they hated it (using the word hated 3 times no less) but they weren't singled out? Constructive criticism. By showing example(s) of parts you didn't like and possibly providing alternatives. Assume the person who created the work is reading your feedback, that's how you can get your message across .
(This is for everyone on this forum equally- you can be firm but fair in your choosing of words).
Is this just in relation to BF stuff? Also, to Digi. Please explain why you singled me out when a previous comment in this thread had the same tone.
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Post by Digi on Feb 7, 2019 20:52:54 GMT
It wouldn't kill you to try being polite. Polite to who? I am just giving my opinion in this forum. I am not writing a rude letter to the writer. Also, if you look at this forum & other threads (such as the last movie you watched) there are plenty of people saying similar things about various things they have watched or listened to. Why single me out? I've observed a crass attitude on this forum for a several years now--which your publicly-visible warning level would appear to bear out--but until now have chosen not to comment on it. In this very thread--where the actual, honest-to-goodness writer and creator of this series, the finale, and this revival, has read posts and written at least one reply--you've chosen to publicly denigrate his work as "horrendous" and "pathetic." It's one thing to venture an opinion that you don't like something, there's nothing wrong with that--everybody is entitled to an opinion. But it's quite another to actively insult someone's work as though it were objectively [insert negative adjective here]. That, I feel, is beyond the pale and utterly uncalled for, and which deserved to be called out for the poor, rude behaviour that it is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 20:58:05 GMT
Polite to who? I am just giving my opinion in this forum. I am not writing a rude letter to the writer. Also, if you look at this forum & other threads (such as the last movie you watched) there are plenty of people saying similar things about various things they have watched or listened to. Why single me out? I've observed a crass attitude on this forum for a several years now--which your publicly-visible warning level would appear to bear out--but until now have chosen not to comment on it. In this very thread--where the actual, honest-to-goodness writer and creator of this series, the finale, and this revival, has read posts and written at least one reply--you've chosen to publicly denigrate his work as "horrendous" and "pathetic." It's one thing to venture an opinion that you don't like something, there's nothing wrong with that--everybody is entitled to an opinion. But it's quite another to actively insult someone's work as though it were objectively [insert negative adjective here]. That, I feel, is beyond the pale and utterly uncalled for, and which deserved to be called out for the poor, rude behaviour that it is. So it's ok for someone else to publicly denigrate, as you put it, someone else's work by saying they hated hated hated it. But not me. Thanks. At least I now know where I stand with you. You are of course entitled to your opinion but if you felt so strongly it may have been better to message me privately rather than derail the thread.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 21:04:24 GMT
For what it's worth, no one should feel they can't say anything here, and my presence shouldn't impact on what people do or don't want to say. Admittedly, if criticism is negative, I'd rather something less brusque than the comments above - it's more constructive to know why something didn't work for a listener than a few blunt words - but even then, if I see it on a forum, that's my choice. So nobody should have to apologise...
It's very different from, say, Twitter, where people sometimes choose to actively tag a creative in a negative review, and thus force them to see such comments. But that isn't the case here at all...
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Post by Digi on Feb 7, 2019 21:10:50 GMT
I've observed a crass attitude on this forum for a several years now--which your publicly-visible warning level would appear to bear out--but until now have chosen not to comment on it. In this very thread--where the actual, honest-to-goodness writer and creator of this series, the finale, and this revival, has read posts and written at least one reply--you've chosen to publicly denigrate his work as "horrendous" and "pathetic." It's one thing to venture an opinion that you don't like something, there's nothing wrong with that--everybody is entitled to an opinion. But it's quite another to actively insult someone's work as though it were objectively [insert negative adjective here]. That, I feel, is beyond the pale and utterly uncalled for, and which deserved to be called out for the poor, rude behaviour that it is. So it's ok for someone else to publicly denigrate, as you put it, someone else's work by saying they hated hated hated it. But not me. Thanks. At least I now know where I stand with you. You are of course entitled to your opinion but if you felt so strongly it may have been better to message me privately rather than derail the thread. Assuming you aren't just being disingenuous: "I hated something" is an opinion. Not a constructive one, but an opinion just the same (note that I did not comment on your previous post in the thread where you commenting on hating the audiobook format). "It was horrendous" is not an opinion, it's just an insulting comment. If you can't tell the difference, I don't know what else to say to you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 21:18:08 GMT
So it's ok for someone else to publicly denigrate, as you put it, someone else's work by saying they hated hated hated it. But not me. Thanks. At least I now know where I stand with you. You are of course entitled to your opinion but if you felt so strongly it may have been better to message me privately rather than derail the thread. Assuming you aren't just being disingenuous: "I hated something" is an opinion. Not a constructive one, but an opinion just the same. "It was horrendous" is not an opinion, it's just an insulting comment. If you can't tell the difference, I don't know what else to say to you. Saying I hated it is indeed an opinion .Saying it 3 times is something different. Anyway, I am not the only one to comment in such a way about a BF story. However, as I am sure you will come up with some other excuse for singling me out when in reality you are making it personal based on your opinion of me I will leave it there rather than persist in the derailment of this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 21:25:50 GMT
Anyone fancy a pint of Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster?
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Post by antartiks on Feb 7, 2019 21:51:17 GMT
Have one on me, mate!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 23:08:24 GMT
Music by Robert Harvey?? Also, disappointed that there's only 15 minutes of interviews per se.
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