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Post by cwm on Dec 15, 2019 16:16:59 GMT
Imagine if we got lucky and ended up with Manning, Treloar and Culshaw narrating. That’d cover all bases rather nicely. Yep the three of them would be truly triumphant and make the special edition even more enticing. I would suggest The Final Game, but following a quick internet search to see if there was a book ready for adaption, I see there is a fan made audio already out there, so I guess that makes that final confrontation unlikely. The Final Game was ruled out of the Lost Stories on the grounds that all that existed of it was a five minute conversation between Barry Letts and Roger Sloman before Roger Delgado's death.
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Post by mbt66 on Dec 15, 2019 16:35:26 GMT
So is there any clue as to what the structure of the main story will be?
One continuous story or several individual stories that will come together as a whole?.
Will there be an overall threat to the Master or one large, overly complicated scheme by the Master for universal domination and will the Doctor feature at all???
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 16:40:46 GMT
So is there any clue as to what the structure of the main story will be? One continuous story or several individual stories that will come together as a whole?. Will there be an overall threat to the Master or one large, overly complicated scheme by the Master for universal domination and will the Doctor feature at all??? If we are to believe Parker Master is a young version of the First Master, then I could see the overall threat being someone (maybe one of his former/future victims?) who is trying to erase him from history. Such an action would require his future incarnations to become involved to prevent the paradoxes that will inevitably occur in a universe without the Master. This is all just pure conjecture on my part but considering how self serving the Master is as a character I could only see them working together if only to protect his/their own existence. Could also pose a very effective moral dilemma if the Doctor were to appear. If the Master was stopped before he could begin his acts of evil across the universe, thus saving hundreds nay millions of innocent lives then surely that would be for the best? Much like the Daleks, a universe without the Master would be viewed as a great improvement. Again, all pure conjecture on my part.
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Post by mbt66 on Dec 15, 2019 16:53:53 GMT
So is there any clue as to what the structure of the main story will be? One continuous story or several individual stories that will come together as a whole?. Will there be an overall threat to the Master or one large, overly complicated scheme by the Master for universal domination and will the Doctor feature at all??? If we are to believe Parker Master is a young version of the First Master, then I could see the overall threat being someone (maybe one of his former/future victims?) who is trying to erase him from history. Such an action would require his future incarnations to become involved to prevent the paradoxes that will inevitably occur in a universe without the Master. This is all just pure conjecture on my part but considering how self serving the Master is as a character I could only see them working together if only to protect his/their own existence. Could also pose a very effective moral dilemma if the Doctor were to appear. If the Master was stopped before he could begin his acts of evil across the universe, thus saving hundreds nay millions of innocent lives then surely that would be for the best? Much like the Daleks, a universe without the Master would be viewed as a great improvement. Again, all pure conjecture on my part. Thanks for sharing - I love a bit of conjecture! That certainly would make sense and explain the young Master. Hmm so could a future Master try to stop a past Master from upsetting someone/something because of the ramifications their actions would cause? I’d love some more Master vs Master shenanigans!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 16:59:48 GMT
If we are to believe Parker Master is a young version of the First Master, then I could see the overall threat being someone (maybe one of his former/future victims?) who is trying to erase him from history. Such an action would require his future incarnations to become involved to prevent the paradoxes that will inevitably occur in a universe without the Master. This is all just pure conjecture on my part but considering how self serving the Master is as a character I could only see them working together if only to protect his/their own existence. Could also pose a very effective moral dilemma if the Doctor were to appear. If the Master was stopped before he could begin his acts of evil across the universe, thus saving hundreds nay millions of innocent lives then surely that would be for the best? Much like the Daleks, a universe without the Master would be viewed as a great improvement. Again, all pure conjecture on my part. Thanks for sharing - I love a bit of conjecture! That certainly would make sense and explain the young Master. Hmm so could a future Master try to stop a past Master from upsetting someone/something because of the ramifications their actions would cause? I’d love some more Master vs Master shenanigans! Most definitely. I almost feel as if the AU Master will be the main antagonist perhaps interfering in his own (Alternate?? God... this is getting confusing) timeline for some as yet unknown purpose as you suggested. He’s definitely the odd one when it comes to the other incarnations of the Master. I’d almost bet good money of Delgado Master making an appearance. If only as a cameo and to set him up for appearing in a future Third Doctor Adventures boxset. In a boxset celebrating fifty years of the character, it would be very strange not to have him acknowledged in some form or other.
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Post by OneTen on Dec 15, 2019 17:23:18 GMT
Big Finish website. The details of each disc are as follows D1-D3 - Masterful D4 - Masterful - behind the scenes D5 - Short Trips: I Am The Master and Short Trips: The Switching (both previously available) D6-D8 - a new, narrated audiobook featuring the Third Doctor, the Master and UNIT Interesting. £20 is a big step up for some extras, but an audiobook goes a substantial way to justifying it, albeit by making more of a bundle than a special edition. It’s not something I’m interested in, personally, so to save a hefty 45% on the price of the limited edition, for the first time I’m going to go for the standard edition.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 16, 2019 2:36:19 GMT
So is there any clue as to what the structure of the main story will be? One continuous story or several individual stories that will come together as a whole?. Will there be an overall threat to the Master or one large, overly complicated scheme by the Master for universal domination and will the Doctor feature at all??? I suspect that the Msster’s “derelict Time Lord outpost” from Ravenous will play a role in the story. Something happens to Master Milo, he runs to the outpost and triggers the “calling myself for help” system and all of him (and her) turn up. Maybe The Gatiss Master decides he wants to be rhe only Master so tries to kill Master Milo and so the others front up to defend themselves.
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Post by shallacatop on Dec 16, 2019 8:36:49 GMT
So is there any clue as to what the structure of the main story will be? One continuous story or several individual stories that will come together as a whole?. Will there be an overall threat to the Master or one large, overly complicated scheme by the Master for universal domination and will the Doctor feature at all??? I suspect that the Msster’s “derelict Time Lord outpost” from Ravenous will play a role in the story. Something happens to Master Milo, he runs to the outpost and triggers the “calling myself for help” system and all of him (and her) turn up. Maybe The Gatiss Master decides he wants to be rhe only Master so tries to kill Master Milo and so the others front up to defend themselves. That’s a good shout. The presence of the Gatiss Master in Anti-Genesis might give us some clues too. The cliffhanger to Missy led us to believe it would be addressed in a second set, but perhaps it’s Masterful instead?
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Dec 16, 2019 10:11:21 GMT
I suspect that the Msster’s “derelict Time Lord outpost” from Ravenous will play a role in the story. Something happens to Master Milo, he runs to the outpost and triggers the “calling myself for help” system and all of him (and her) turn up. Maybe The Gatiss Master decides he wants to be rhe only Master so tries to kill Master Milo and so the others front up to defend themselves. That’s a good shout. The presence of the Gatiss Master in Anti-Genesis might give us some clues too. The cliffhanger to Missy led us to believe it would be addressed in a second set, but perhaps it’s Masterful instead? OHH the plot being all the Masters plotting against each other to get control of the Master TARDIS...
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Post by tuigirl on Dec 16, 2019 18:37:00 GMT
I suspect that the Msster’s “derelict Time Lord outpost” from Ravenous will play a role in the story. Something happens to Master Milo, he runs to the outpost and triggers the “calling myself for help” system and all of him (and her) turn up. Maybe The Gatiss Master decides he wants to be rhe only Master so tries to kill Master Milo and so the others front up to defend themselves. That’s a good shout. The presence of the Gatiss Master in Anti-Genesis might give us some clues too. The cliffhanger to Missy led us to believe it would be addressed in a second set, but perhaps it’s Masterful instead? The plot thickens...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 18:51:33 GMT
That’s a good shout. The presence of the Gatiss Master in Anti-Genesis might give us some clues too. The cliffhanger to Missy led us to believe it would be addressed in a second set, but perhaps it’s Masterful instead? The plot thickens... who is the writer? Give it to Dorney lol
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Post by sherlock on Dec 16, 2019 19:08:54 GMT
I suspect that the Msster’s “derelict Time Lord outpost” from Ravenous will play a role in the story. Something happens to Master Milo, he runs to the outpost and triggers the “calling myself for help” system and all of him (and her) turn up. Maybe The Gatiss Master decides he wants to be rhe only Master so tries to kill Master Milo and so the others front up to defend themselves. That’s a good shout. The presence of the Gatiss Master in Anti-Genesis might give us some clues too. The cliffhanger to Missy led us to believe it would be addressed in a second set, but perhaps it’s Masterful instead? Ooh that sounds very possible. And given the War Master and Unbound Master are set to clash later this month, perhaps that will leave another strand to be picked up in Masterful?
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Post by cwm on Dec 16, 2019 21:21:31 GMT
I would be surprised if Masterful didn't work as a standalone - the presence of Simm will likely tempt a few people who don't follow Missy or the War Master.
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Post by number13 on Dec 16, 2019 21:40:00 GMT
All these suggestions for cross-release plot arcs to pull us into buying everything... shhh, don't give them ideas
I like the suggestions made, just as long as we get a second 'Missy' volume please, whatever else the Masters get up to together.
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Post by mark687 on Dec 16, 2019 21:45:10 GMT
All these suggestions for cross-release plot arcs to pull us into buying everything... shhh, don't give them ideas
Dark Universe anyone ? Regards mark687
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Post by agentten on Dec 16, 2019 22:58:27 GMT
I've been waiting for a big Master blowout story so this is very a welcome release and getting John Simm for his Big Finish debut is the perfect cherry on top.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 23:14:35 GMT
All these suggestions for cross-release plot arcs to pull us into buying everything... shhh, don't give them ideas
I like the suggestions made, just as long as we get a second 'Missy' volume please, whatever else the Masters get up to together.
I hope this doesn't turn out to be one of those stories you can only comprehend if you've already heard a myriad of other things - but I don't think it will be. Big Finish have proven to be very clever at writing series that can act as standalone tales (well, virtually) but can reward listeners who have heard other things. I hope and think Masterful will be a bit like that.
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Post by number13 on Dec 17, 2019 1:01:31 GMT
All these suggestions for cross-release plot arcs to pull us into buying everything... shhh, don't give them ideas Dark Universe anyone ? Regards mark687 I should have said 'any more ideas'!
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Post by x2magneto on Dec 17, 2019 19:48:45 GMT
I'm willing to take the plunge on this one. I was never fond of the Simm's Master, but I think that's owed to the material and not the actor.
His initial return is mired by a Jokerization, style over substance approach. The End of Time takes that 'epic over function' approach to heart for its entire story, which ends up being a low point in the series for all characters concerned.
If Big Finish continues to prove why it's a focal point of the DW property, it'll take the Simm Master and apply him to stories that want to be stories and not just set pieces, that focus the narrative and are structurally sound, like the Doctor Falls. I say this as someone who typically preferred Davis over Moffet, but I have no loyalties. A good story is a good story.
The Simm Master must prove himself and I'm willing to spend the cash to find out if he can.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 13:26:58 GMT
I won't post a link because it is a toxic newspaper but this release has been mentioned in The Sun!
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