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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 19:58:13 GMT
I guess leaving via the front door avoids any coarse metaphors that may be conjured by him exiting via the tradesman's entrance.... Cummings and goings ... I was thinking along the lines of how so many regarded him as a bit of a s**t and being purged but no matter. For the Nostradamus award of the week, I just came across this, from 1892 ( Diary of a Nobody), via twitter (@danieljhannan), which suggests Carrie Symonds was capable of being quite convivial with him after all...
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Post by sherlock on Nov 13, 2020 20:56:59 GMT
So the superforecasters couldn’t forecast that briefing against their boss’ fiancé would backfire.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 20:58:34 GMT
Now this is an interesting insight into proceedings, from the Financial Times: Suggestions that they were dismissed by Boris for their behaviour during this week and for being caught briefing behind Carrie's back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 21:41:35 GMT
Meanwhile the government’s vaccine tsar has been caught out in what seems a rather classic corruption case. Her misadventures include showing what seem to be non-public documents about the vaccine strategy to an event of venture capitalists, possibly lying to a select committee and spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayers’ money on a team of PR consultants for herself. It could be nothing, but the PR consultants firm has been linked to Dominic Cummings via his wife, Mary Wakefield: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8933939/Vaccine-PR-firm-linked-Dominic-Cummings-father-law.html
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Post by number13 on Nov 13, 2020 23:02:49 GMT
Ding, dong, Dom is gone. And for some reason has done a dumb stunt by leaving No 10 carrying a box to end his tenure. It looked so completely unstaged too, like a Renaissance oil painting. Picture of "Sacked Man with Cardboard Box", circa 2020.
In centuries to come, people will look at it on the wall of a gallery and wonder who he was, why he was sacked and (the real tease) what was in the box?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2020 16:07:55 GMT
Ding, dong, Dom is gone. And for some reason has done a dumb stunt by leaving No 10 carrying a box to end his tenure. It looked so completely unstaged too, like a Renaissance oil painting. Picture of "Sacked Man with Cardboard Box", circa 2020.
In centuries to come, people will look at it on the wall of a gallery and wonder who he was, why he was sacked and (the real tease) what was in the box?
I found it amusing that the usual blowhards claimed yesterday that Dominic Cummings 'staged' his exit for a grab at the limelight, yet there was the serendipity of the timing of his downfall, coming on the very day that a claim was settled concerning the treatment of one special advisor to Sajid Javid, namely Sonia Khan. She was sacked on the authority of Dominic and escorted off the premises, her belongings in a box. The humiliation of being led out of the door, disgraced, in view of the worlds press. I guess that if it was not intended, it will certainly have given her some satisfaction. The Guardian claims it was settled early to protect Dominic, but things move swiftly in Politics i guess. www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/13/special-adviser-sacked-by-dominic-cummings-to-receive-payoffLooking at his expression, I doubt he gained any pleasure from the very public manner of his departure:
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Post by number13 on Nov 14, 2020 22:52:48 GMT
It looked so completely unstaged too, like a Renaissance oil painting. Picture of "Sacked Man with Cardboard Box", circa 2020.
In centuries to come, people will look at it on the wall of a gallery and wonder who he was, why he was sacked and (the real tease) what was in the box?
I found it amusing that the usual blowhards claimed yesterday that Dominic Cummings 'staged' his exit for a grab at the limelight [...] Looking at his expression, I doubt he gained any pleasure from the very public manner of his departure: Call me cynical, but I immediately thought the pictures were very convenient, though not for him. In next to no time events were being spun as A Fresh Start for the Government and A Fresh Start needs a picture of A Fresh Start doesn't it? And here it was, a picture that spoke a thousand column inches: person, place, event; all there for everyone to instantly understand.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2020 23:04:18 GMT
I found it amusing that the usual blowhards claimed yesterday that Dominic Cummings 'staged' his exit for a grab at the limelight [...] Looking at his expression, I doubt he gained any pleasure from the very public manner of his departure: Call me cynical, but I immediately thought the pictures were very convenient, though not for him. In next to no time events were being spun as A Fresh Start for the Government and A Fresh Start needs a picture of A Fresh Start doesn't it? And here it was, a picture that spoke a thousand column inches: person, place, event; all there for everyone to instantly understand.
Certainly, as I have been reading tonight, Robert Peston believes on account of his own sources, that the alleged meeting was not as has been portrayed. The truth will emerge at some point. A pretty damning assessment in The Spectator, retweeted not once, but twice by Andrew Neil today: www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-cummings-debacle-shows-boris-isn-t-fit-to-lead
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Post by The Brigadier on Nov 15, 2020 10:04:17 GMT
I found it amusing that the usual blowhards claimed yesterday that Dominic Cummings 'staged' his exit for a grab at the limelight [...] Looking at his expression, I doubt he gained any pleasure from the very public manner of his departure: Call me cynical, but I immediately thought the pictures were very convenient, though not for him. In next to no time events were being spun as A Fresh Start for the Government and A Fresh Start needs a picture of A Fresh Start doesn't it? And here it was, a picture that spoke a thousand column inches: person, place, event; all there for everyone to instantly understand.
Hello cynical...😁 The stars would appear to have aligned..because I find myself in complete agreement. Totally staged and very, very convenient for the current occupant of Number 10. Now while I'm more inclined to believe that Cummings is on gardening leave and his 'walk of shame' in front of the gathered photographers and TV crews was the price he had to pay (I wonder what "source" leaked his departure?), the scenario painted by Downing Street does offer a rather interesting possibility. If (and it's a big 'if') he was removed from his role earlier than he anticipated and then humiliated in front of the cameras, woud he take such an act lightly? Or could arrogance and ego make things really awkward for the Government really quickly? Time will tell....and the popcorn stands ready...🍿
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Post by number13 on Nov 15, 2020 15:04:50 GMT
Call me cynical, but I immediately thought the pictures were very convenient, though not for him. In next to no time events were being spun as A Fresh Start for the Government and A Fresh Start needs a picture of A Fresh Start doesn't it? And here it was, a picture that spoke a thousand column inches: person, place, event; all there for everyone to instantly understand.
Hello cynical...😁 The stars would appear to have aligned..because I find myself in complete agreement. Totally staged and very, very convenient for the current occupant of Number 10. Now while I'm more inclined to believe that Cummings is on gardening leave and his 'walk of shame' in front of the gathered photographers and TV crews was the price he had to pay (I wonder what "source" leaked his departure?), the scenario painted by Downing Street does offer a rather interesting possibility. If (and it's a big 'if') he was removed from his role earlier than he anticipated and then humiliated in front of the cameras, woud he take such an act lightly? Or could arrogance and ego make things really awkward for the Government really quickly? Time will tell....and the popcorn stands ready...🍿 From what I've read I think it was a genuine case of clashing personalities and 'man overboard' but is Brexit ever far below the surface? I believe this is the finally final week for deciding Deal/No Deal and he was very opposed to the continued following of EU "level playing field" rules on state intervention, one of the two big sticking points for a Deal. The one real sticking point imo; surely "Fish" can be fudged.
If the UK objection to the "level playing field" is now modiified (or dropped) in exchange for fisheries agreement or something and a deal is done, then how very conveniently timed everything would have turned out to be.
(I've never been able to understand why any Conservative government objected to keeping the EU "level playing field" rules on state intervention in business. As part of the Single Market they were a British idea from the Thatcher years as much as they were anyone's and it was always the old anti-EU hard left who opposed them as a barrier to Socialism - which they are. Tories since the 80s - or New Labour for that matter - generally haven't wanted to intervene in ways that would break the rules and when we have wanted to intervene, a way to do it within the rules has generally been found & agreed with Brussels. Imo it's a good safeguard to keep.)
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 16, 2020 19:00:07 GMT
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Post by number13 on Nov 17, 2020 2:49:03 GMT
All the social distancing on Earth can't stop you being in the same room and breathing the same air as someone who later tests positive, if you need to be in the same room as them. Duration of contact is one of the criteria taken into account when judging the need to self-isolate, not only the degree of contact.
But what does that matter: if it's Boris/Tories, it must be their fault in some way.
It would perhaps be better to have virtual meetings atm. Then we could have snide comments about Ministers being 'in hiding' couldn't we?
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 19, 2020 13:04:56 GMT
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 19, 2020 18:34:57 GMT
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Post by sherlock on Nov 20, 2020 13:01:51 GMT
Just in time for anti-bullying week. Look forward to the new government literature being put out: “Bullying is unacceptable...unless you promise that it was definitely unintentional”.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 20, 2020 13:05:17 GMT
Just in time for anti-bullying week. Look forward to the new government literature being put out: “Bullying is unacceptable...unless you promise that it was definitely unintentional”. Pathetic but predictably the PM backs Patel. What's the point of having a ministerial code? Priti Patel: Bullying inquiry head quits as PM backs home secretary
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Post by lidar2 on Nov 20, 2020 13:48:44 GMT
Just in time for anti-bullying week. Look forward to the new government literature being put out: “Bullying is unacceptable...unless you promise that it was definitely unintentional”. Dominic Cummings / Barnard Castle all over again
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 14:09:58 GMT
Just in time for anti-bullying week. Look forward to the new government literature being put out: “Bullying is unacceptable...unless you promise that it was definitely unintentional”. Dominic Cummings / Barnard Castle all over again Does this mean we can look forward to another immaculately staged leaving-by-the-font-door scene in a few weeks?
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 20, 2020 14:10:11 GMT
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Nov 20, 2020 14:39:26 GMT
Dominic Cummings / Barnard Castle all over again Does this mean we can look forward to another immaculately staged leaving-by-the-font-door scene in a few weeks? Probably sometime shortly after the ex civil servant wins his constructive dismissal case in 2021
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