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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 8:56:36 GMT
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Post by shallacatop on Dec 29, 2020 12:19:40 GMT
Really enjoyed that. Great worldbuilding, enjoyed the framing of the story and the Doctor popped in and out when needed, leaving us with Aymius and an insight into his life and mind.
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Post by selimpensfiction on Dec 29, 2020 21:13:57 GMT
An excellent story with realistic characters, motivations, and flaws. When governments have taxed pretty much everything else, it’s not a huge leap to imagine them taxing speech. Very much enjoyed this, and Jacob Dudman’s narration.
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Post by barnabaslives on Dec 30, 2020 11:01:22 GMT
Wonderful story! Big Finish certainly picked a winner. Thanks, Eugenie. I certainly hope we get to hear more stories from you. Happy New Year!
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Post by mark687 on Dec 30, 2020 16:22:29 GMT
PDFs of both the Original Pitch and Final Script for Free Speech have been added to Bonus Content
Regards
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Post by Chakoteya on Dec 30, 2020 17:25:44 GMT
Interesting concept. Thank goodness the tech doesn't yet exist for governments to implement it!
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Post by elkawho on Dec 30, 2020 18:31:01 GMT
I was hooked by the first scene. It had a very powerful opening. Great story. These Paul Spragg stories have turned out gems year after year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 18:40:06 GMT
PDFs of both the Original Pitch and Final Script for Free Speech have been added to Bonus Content Regards mark687 Thx for the update! 
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Post by eugeniep on Jan 1, 2021 9:12:55 GMT
I'm really honoured to be reading so many kind comments! I also hope the final script and original pitch are helpful to anyone thinking of entering next year. As you can see, the original pitch had Aymius recounting his story to his kids some 20 years in the future; however, Alfie Shaw from Big Finish had the brilliant suggestion of making it an interrogation scene instead, which worked much better. (Hot tip for future entrants - there's probably no point in writing your entire story immediately after you've sent your pitch, as plot points could well end up changing in the final version!).
Eugenie
PS - and a big thanks to Drama Man for starting this thread!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 10:40:46 GMT
I'm really honoured to be reading so many kind comments! I also hope the final script and original pitch are helpful to anyone thinking of entering next year. As you can see, the original pitch had Aymius recounting his story to his kids some 20 years in the future; however, Alfie Shaw from Big Finish had the brilliant suggestion of making it an interrogation scene instead, which worked much better. (Hot tip for future entrants - there's probably no point in writing your entire story immediately after you've sent your pitch, as plot points could well end up changing in the final version!). Eugenie PS - and a big thanks to Drama Man for starting this thread! After listening to Free Speech about 3 times now, it has already become a brand new favourite of mine. Truly one of the most unique and powerful concepts I have ever heard in the Whoniverse. It's why I created the thread in the first place! And your tip on trying to avoid writing the full entry after submitting to BF, Eugenie, is definitely worth a go, since I've been doing it for several years by starting off with (messy) rough drafts. Very tempting for any writer, but I think it's best to wait until sometime after the winner has been announced. PS: Expect a review within the next few days...
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Post by elkawho on Jan 1, 2021 13:58:26 GMT
I'm really honoured to be reading so many kind comments! I also hope the final script and original pitch are helpful to anyone thinking of entering next year. As you can see, the original pitch had Aymius recounting his story to his kids some 20 years in the future; however, Alfie Shaw from Big Finish had the brilliant suggestion of making it an interrogation scene instead, which worked much better. (Hot tip for future entrants - there's probably no point in writing your entire story immediately after you've sent your pitch, as plot points could well end up changing in the final version!). Eugenie PS - and a big thanks to Drama Man for starting this thread! Welcome to the forum! Congratulations on your story. It's wonderful!
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 1, 2021 17:31:08 GMT
This was a great original idea. I do not think a society could actually work that way, if you look at it realistically (for some of the same reasons Fahrenheit 451 might be unrealistic), but today I am in it for the story. And it has an important message and it was very well written, paced and performed. I loved how the speech was extremely short and clipped and I think a lot of thought and effort went into making this flow well and keeping it understandable. I think it was a great piece. And it was free. So no words to waste on critisism!
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Post by Kestrel on Jan 4, 2021 0:29:08 GMT
So... I have some unique thoughts on this, but in a shocking display of restraint I won't immediately share them. Past trauma on all that. So before I say anything, I'll simply ask: would any of ya' care to hear a perspective on this story informed by mutism?
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Post by elkawho on Jan 4, 2021 4:23:08 GMT
So... I have some unique thoughts on this, but in a shocking display of restraint I won't immediately share them. Past trauma on all that. So before I say anything, I'll simply ask: would any of ya' care to hear a perspective on this story informed by mutism? Well, that must be a unique perspective. Sure!
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Post by davygallagher on Jan 4, 2021 4:33:38 GMT
So... I have some unique thoughts on this, but in a shocking display of restraint I won't immediately share them. Past trauma on all that. So before I say anything, I'll simply ask: would any of ya' care to hear a perspective on this story informed by mutism? Absolutely. If there's anything I've learned over the past few years is that there's no substitute for people's own journeys, stories and experiences.
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Post by masterdoctor on Jan 4, 2021 5:38:06 GMT
So... I have some unique thoughts on this, but in a shocking display of restraint I won't immediately share them. Past trauma on all that. So before I say anything, I'll simply ask: would any of ya' care to hear a perspective on this story informed by mutism? As Davy and Elka have said, your perspective would be more than valuable, and the fact that you might share with us is humbling to say the least.
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Post by eugeniep on Jan 6, 2021 11:14:32 GMT
This was a great original idea. I do not think a society could actually work that way, if you look at it realistically (for some of the same reasons Fahrenheit 451 might be unrealistic), but today I am in it for the story. And it has an important message and it was very well written, paced and performed. I loved how the speech was extremely short and clipped and I think a lot of thought and effort went into making this flow well and keeping it understandable. I think it was a great piece. And it was free. So no words to waste on critisism! In my head (and realistically speaking) many of the poorer people would likely find some sort of way of using sign language to communicate (or they'd become proficient lip readers!).
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Post by eugeniep on Jan 6, 2021 11:15:22 GMT
So... I have some unique thoughts on this, but in a shocking display of restraint I won't immediately share them. Past trauma on all that. So before I say anything, I'll simply ask: would any of ya' care to hear a perspective on this story informed by mutism? That sounds interesting. If you're happy to share, I'd be keen to hear your perspective!
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Post by Kestrel on Jan 7, 2021 7:08:46 GMT
Hahaha... thanks, everyone, for being willing to humor me. My response to this story has been... fairly extreme. By which I mean I've written a great deal about it--including three posts here--which I've subsequently deleted. Basically, it's just too much. So please keep in mind that, even with the wall of text below, this is me doing my very best to keep it concise. That sounds interesting. If you're happy to share, I'd be keen to hear your perspective! So: why did I have an "extreme" reaction to the story? Because mutism is never explored in fiction. I quickly recognized the premise of this story for the opportunity that it was. And I became very frustrated with it when it became apparent that it was not going to fully explore it's own premise. I'd go so far as to say, even, that I was angry. Not at the script, not at the writer, but at Big Finish for looking at this idea and thinking, "this'll be a good Short Trip." Because no, absolutely not, this story should never have been a Short Trip. A story like this--imagining an entire society built around enforced mutism--demands a full hour to explore. Ideally even more than that. It cannot be done within the confines of a short trip that must also struggle to incorporate all of those other dramatic elements beyond setting into a very limited run-time. Speculative fiction is, at it's heart, simply asking a hypothetical question and providing a potential answer. That's it. That's all SF is. And Free Speech poses a hypothetical society built on enforced mutism. I dunno about y'all, but that idea sent my mind spinning: the whole time I was listening to the episode, I kept thinking of more and more ways such a society might differ from our own. I had to stop myself from pausing the story to list out more after scribbling down several dozens. It's just one of those ideas to which I was drawn with an intense attraction. And you might say, "this story doesn't deal with mutism! It's about a fascy police-state where speech is heavily regulated!" So let's talk a bit about mutism. I can only discuss my personal experience. I've got selective mutism along with limited affect. I'm not sure if the two typically go hand-in-hand, or if the latter is more an ASD thing, but regardless, they both function to limit my capacity to physically communicate. I'm not sure familiar y'all may or may not be with the term " selective mutism," but in short it means that I am almost fully capable of speech in some contexts, only partly-capable of speech in other contexts, and utterly incapable of speech in many contexts. Let me explain what that feels like. Imagine being in a crowded room, right in the center, and screaming. As loud as you possibly can. Only the nerve impulse from your brain never reaches your larynx. None of the muscles in your throat--or even your face--so much as twitch. You can stand there, screaming, for hours--and no one will notice. Mutism isn't silence: it's wanting to speak--desperately, sometimes--and that desire being betrayed by your own body. Sort of like wanting to speak, but not being able to afford the words, huh? You can see, I think, why I found this story's premise so engaging. So captivating. And it just did not have the time to really explore any of the ramifications of its own premise. Like the class divide that's lightly touched on? Well, I can guarantee you that the wealthy would be almost physically repulsed by the lower classes, because people do not react well to mutism, or other communication disorders. When presented with another person who does not react the way they expect them to--or react in a way they are capable of recognizing--people will react with antipathy, commonly, and sometimes abuse or even violence. The logical reasoning of, "oh, they don't speak because they cannot afford to" would not factor into it. They would think, "they don't speak because they are subhuman." And the thing about mutism is that it can't really be conveyed through any medium but prose. And the basic structure of Free Speech was perfect to really dig into a mute character--the whole interrogation thing, with the story being told to us both through dialog and the narrator's internal monolog. Because, as perhaps you've been able to discern through my own ramblings, an inability to speak vocally does not correspond to an inability to articulate thoughts in general. In other words, being mute may manifest in someone appearing, outwardly, to be very inarticulate, despite being fully capable. It's a weird juxtaposition that cannot really present in a narrative where the audience is privy to both the character's outward speech and inner thoughts. So... that's basically where I am. I feel almost as though this story was only about selective mutism by accident, otherwise the people who are being paid the big bucks to notice these things would have recognized the rich vein of potential running throughout the premise, and "promoted" it to something bigger, where they could really dive into the larger (and smaller) social and political implications of this world--and even, perhaps, address some of the physiological issues with mutism. Just think how language would evolve in this world! The rich would be excessively verbose, the poor relying, perhaps, on sign language or texting to get by. Basically... this Short Trip feels like Big Finish taking a mountain, and carving it into a molehill. Is that a bad analogy? I'm sorry. I really hope I don't come across as too critical here. Like I said at the outset, my reaction has been fairly extreme, and I've tried to parse it out in words several times. I think this is my last attempt to do so, but if y'all have any questions for me, please, feel free to ask. I did enjoy the story, but I just can't get over what a missed opportunity it feels like. How did Big Finish not see the potential here? I just can't get over this decision. If they felt like the writer (presumably an amateur?) wasn't experienced enough to fully flesh everything out into a full-length drama, well... editors exist--that is, in fact, why we exist.
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 7, 2021 7:15:51 GMT
Hahaha... thanks, everyone, for being willing to humor me. My response to this story has been... fairly extreme. By which I mean I've written a great deal about it--including three posts here--which I've subsequently deleted. Basically, it's just too much. So please keep in mind that, even with the wall of text below, this is me doing my very best to keep it concise. That sounds interesting. If you're happy to share, I'd be keen to hear your perspective! So: why did I have an "extreme" reaction to the story? Because mutism is never explored in fiction. I quickly recognized the premise of this story for the opportunity that it was. And I became very frustrated with it when it became apparent that it was not going to fully explore it's own premise. I'd go so far as to say, even, that I was angry. Not at the script, not at the writer, but at Big Finish for looking at this idea and thinking, "this'll be a good Short Trip." Because no, absolutely not, this story should never have been a Short Trip. A story like this--imagining an entire society built around enforced mutism--demands a full hour to explore. Ideally even more than that. It cannot be done within the confines of a short trip that must also struggle to incorporate all of those other dramatic elements beyond setting into a very limited run-time. Speculative fiction is, at it's heart, simply asking a hypothetical question and providing a potential answer. That's it. That's all SF is. And Free Speech poses a hypothetical society built on enforced mutism. I dunno about y'all, but that idea sent my mind spinning: the whole time I was listening to the episode, I kept thinking of more and more ways such a society might differ from our own. I had to stop myself from pausing the story to list out more after scribbling down several dozens. It's just one of those ideas to which I was drawn with an intense attraction. And you might say, "this story doesn't deal with mutism! It's about a fascy police-state where speech is heavily regulated!" So let's talk a bit about mutism. I can only discuss my personal experience. I've got selective mutism along with limited affect. I'm not sure if the two typically go hand-in-hand, or if the latter is more an ASD thing, but regardless, they both function to limit my capacity to physically communicate. I'm not sure familiar y'all may or may not be with the term " selective mutism," but in short it means that I am almost fully capable of speech in some contexts, only partly-capable of speech in other contexts, and utterly incapable of speech in many contexts. Let me explain what that feels like. Imagine being in a crowded room, right in the center, and screaming. As loud as you possibly can. Only the nerve impulse from your brain never reaches your larynx. None of the muscles in your throat--or even your face--so much as twitch. You can stand there, screaming, for hours--and no one will notice. Mutism isn't silence: it's wanting to speak--desperately, sometimes--and that desire being betrayed by your own body. Sort of like wanting to speak, but not being able to afford the words, huh? You can see, I think, why I found this story's premise so engaging. So captivating. And it just did not have the time to really explore any of the ramifications of its own premise. Like the class divide that's lightly touched on? Well, I can guarantee you that the wealthy would be almost physically repulsed by the lower classes, because people do not react well to mutism, or other communication disorders. When presented with another person who does not react the way they expect them to--or react in a way they are capable of recognizing--people will react with antipathy, commonly, and sometimes abuse or even violence. The logical reasoning of, "oh, they don't speak because they cannot afford to" would not factor into it. They would think, "they don't speak because they are subhuman." And the thing about mutism is that it can't really be conveyed through any medium but prose. And the basic structure of Free Speech was perfect to really dig into a mute character--the whole interrogation thing, with the story being told to us both through dialog and the narrator's internal monolog. Because, as perhaps you've been able to discern through my own ramblings, an inability to speak vocally does not correspond to an inability to articulate thoughts in general. In other words, being mute may manifest in someone appearing, outwardly, to be very inarticulate, despite being fully capable. It's a weird juxtaposition that cannot really present in a narrative where the audience is privy to both the character's outward speech and inner thoughts. So... that's basically where I am. I feel almost as though this story was only about selective mutism by accident, otherwise the people who are being paid the big bucks to notice these things would have recognized the rich vein of potential running throughout the premise, and "promoted" it to something bigger, where they could really dive into the larger (and smaller) social and political implications of this world--and even, perhaps, address some of the physiological issues with mutism. Just think how language would evolve in this world! The rich would be excessively verbose, the poor relying, perhaps, on sign language or texting to get by. Basically... this Short Trip feels like Big Finish taking a mountain, and carving it into a molehill. Is that a bad analogy? I'm sorry. I really hope I don't come across as too critical here. Like I said at the outset, my reaction has been fairly extreme, and I've tried to parse it out in words several times. I think this is my last attempt to do so, but if y'all have any questions for me, please, feel free to ask. I did enjoy the story, but I just can't get over what a missed opportunity it feels like. How did Big Finish not see the potential here? I just can't get over this decision. If they felt like the writer (presumably an amateur?) wasn't experienced enough to fully flesh everything out into a full-length drama, well... editors exist--that is, in fact, why we exist. Thank you very much for your insight.
I will be honest, this is the first time someone made me aware of the condition. I think a similar thing happened with BF, and the author... I think they might have been like me and just not been aware.
Maybe one of the BF people floating around here will take note...
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