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Post by x2magneto on Aug 13, 2021 15:47:00 GMT
The individual in question has openly harassed and deliberately attempted to spread false rumours about forum members and Big Finish staff, both while he was active here, and after we banned him for said conduct. After another such incident a couple of months ago, we determined that we would no longer allow our site to be used to fuel traffic to his website, so the mod team is asking this particular conversation be left here. Good to know, but the fact that your text is in red scared the hell out of me. I read it in the voice of an authoritative robot that is much more than they seem.
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Post by Whovitt on Aug 13, 2021 15:52:12 GMT
The individual in question has openly harassed and deliberately attempted to spread false rumours about forum members and Big Finish staff, both while he was active here, and after we banned him for said conduct. After another such incident a couple of months ago, we determined that we would no longer allow our site to be used to fuel traffic to his website, so the mod team is asking this particular conversation be left here. Good to know, but the fact that your text is in red scared the hell out of me. I read it in the voice of an authoritative robot that is much more than they seem. Sorry if that was unsettling. We don't have to break out the red text very often, but it helps to make the point that I've got my mod hat on and that I'm not just posting as me
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Post by x2magneto on Aug 13, 2021 16:09:17 GMT
Good to know, but the fact that your text is in red scared the hell out of me. I read it in the voice of an authoritative robot that is much more than they seem. Sorry if that was unsettling. We don't have to break out the red text very often, but it helps to make the point that I've got my mod hat on and that I'm not just posting as me I figured. I was mostly pulling your leg. heh heh
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ljwilson
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It's tangerine....not orange
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Post by ljwilson on Aug 13, 2021 18:28:13 GMT
I did say I won't post on this thread because I don't like it (so forgive me this one) and Ela and Whovitt I know we shouldn't encourage him...but as they say up North:
"74,540 documents my arse"
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 13, 2021 18:47:23 GMT
I did say I won't post on this thread because I don't like it (so forgive me this one) and Ela and Whovitt I know we shouldn't encourage him...but as they say up North: "74,540 documents my arse" Can we not open up this can of worms again please we have been told this topic is off limits here on this forum. ENOUGH!
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Post by Ela on Aug 13, 2021 19:58:09 GMT
I did say I won't post on this thread because I don't like it (so forgive me this one) and Ela and Whovitt I know we shouldn't encourage him...but as they say up North: "74,540 documents my arse" I have to admit this post made me laugh. But please, don't feed the troll. Just editing to add that I'm not calling ljwilson a troll, in case there's any misunderstanding. I think we all know which troll I'm talking about.
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ljwilson
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It's tangerine....not orange
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Post by ljwilson on Aug 14, 2021 9:27:20 GMT
Don't worry Ela I know you weren't and even IF you had I have fairly broad shoulders!
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Post by kipperserver on Oct 17, 2021 21:19:40 GMT
Dreyfus back again. On the awful; GB NEWS!
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Post by mark687 on Oct 17, 2021 21:33:10 GMT
Dreyfus back again. On the awful; GB NEWS! I hope BF Sue! What on earth possesses some people having a belief is one thing but when its actually classed as being legally dubious what does someone expect an Employer to do! Regards mark687
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Oct 17, 2021 21:35:51 GMT
Dreyfus back again. On the awful; GB NEWS! I hope BF Sue! What on earth possesses some people having a belief is one thing but when its actually classed as being legally dubious Regards mark687 How absolutely pathetic. Well appearing on a news channel that is drifting further into the margins of a right wing echo chamber isn't going to help much.
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Post by theillusiveman on Oct 17, 2021 21:53:03 GMT
Honestly i think Big Finish should have spoken to James and said "mate you have your views/belief and it doesn't match with the companies values which would affect our relationship with out customers output and that we feel that we should part ways we will release your work with us but after that we will go with another actor" at least it could have been an amicable way of parting ways with him
that's just my 2cents
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 21:57:21 GMT
Dreyfus back again. On the awful; GB NEWS! What a rose tinted version he makes of it. He didn't just sign two letters, he put out many tweets which were posted here at the time saying transphobic BS. He also didn't just tell fans who abused him where to go - he was abusing trans people who said he was actively hurting them. Of all the things in the world I don't get (and there are plenty, increasingly) - what the hell he or JK Rowling CARE if someone chooses to identify differently and not have to constantly have an asterisk next to their name with their born gender. Sadly there is - as Dreyfus and Gareth Roberts illustrate and I know from my own experience - a lot of transphobes among gay men. I've zero idea why. Myself and Michael had a babysitter when we were kids, mid 90s, Mel. She was trans, pre-op. I'd never even considered it was a "thing" and asked all sorts of questions. Mel was open and frank and was a wonderful person. The idea of taking away what made her, her - just because someone else thinks you cant change genders? Who are these clownshoes to say? What difference does it make to ANY of them if a trans person is one gender or another? It's deplorable this "Well, of course you CAN change your looks, but you won't get a womb or change your chromosomes" - yeah, thanks Prof. Trans people are made very aware of what to expect, they are offered support and mental health reachouts. A human being is happy and being their best selves - and hurting no-one. Isn't that wonderful? Give me a room full of trans friends before one transphobe one anyday.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 17, 2021 21:58:48 GMT
Honestly i think Big Finish should have spoken to James and said "mate you have your views/belief and it doesn't match with the companies values which would affect our relationship with out customers output and that we feel that we should part ways we will release your work with us but after that we will go with another actor" at least it could have been an amicable way of parting ways with him that's just my 2cents Ok but I doubt there was no conservation at all shall we say. Regards mark687
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 22:20:37 GMT
Honestly i think Big Finish should have spoken to James and said "mate you have your views/belief and it doesn't match with the companies values which would affect our relationship with out customers output and that we feel that we should part ways we will release your work with us but after that we will go with another actor" at least it could have been an amicable way of parting ways with him that's just my 2cents And a fair 2 cents it is too. Yet by the time word really got out, James had been on a midnight tweet frenzy, posting all sorts of bile and abusing people who disagreed, and despite his poor me act it was not just people who were insulting him. Some rationale tweets were met with plenty of Fs and Cs. It wasn't just doubling down, it was full Fox News. I think he lost the right to a dignified departure and cutting ties immediately was a better move. Talk of "cancel culture" is so not true, despite that vid. Companies dont want employees to act like that in 2021. The fact that most "victims" of cancel culture cant admit to themselves they caused their own downfall is a constant source of bafflement.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Oct 17, 2021 22:21:28 GMT
Dreyfus back again. On the awful; GB NEWS! What a rose tinted version he makes of it. He didn't just sign two letters, he put out many tweets which were posted here at the time saying transphobic BS. He also didn't just tell fans who abused him where to go - he was abusing trans people who said he was actively hurting them. Of all the things in the world I don't get (and there are plenty, increasingly) - what the hell he or JK Rowling CARE if someone chooses to identify differently and not have to constantly have an asterisk next to their name with their born gender. Sadly there is - as Dreyfus and Gareth Roberts illustrate and I know from my own experience - a lot of transphobes among gay men. I've zero idea why. Myself and Michael had a babysitter when we were kids, mid 90s, Mel. She was trans, pre-op. I'd never even considered it was a "thing" and asked all sorts of questions. Mel was open and frank and was a wonderful person. The idea of taking away what made her, her - just because someone else thinks you cant change genders? Who are these clownshoes to say? What difference does it make to ANY of them if a trans person is one gender or another? It's deplorable this "Well, of course you CAN change your looks, but you won't get a womb or change your chromosomes" - yeah, thanks Prof. Trans people are made very aware of what to expect, they are offered support and mental health reachouts. A human being is happy and being their best selves - and hurting no-one. Isn't that wonderful? Give me a room full of trans friends before one transphobe one anyday. Well said. Its so bizarre, I wonder if they genuinely do believe there's a horde of men who will dress up as women so they can go into a female changing room. That seems to be one of the reasons for their bigotry. Or that there's going to be a huge influx of thousands of trans athletes. & transphobia always seems to focus on male to female not the other way round. Anyway, I've just burnt all my Gimmie, Gimmie, Gimmie VHS tapes.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 18, 2021 0:28:36 GMT
Dreyfus has a right to say, write, tweet or support whatever he pleases. Big Finish has the right to cut off contact with him. When people speak of cancel culture what they should really be talking about is consequence culture. All this pearl clutching about BF never calling him back is ridiculous. He went off on several rants, he doubled & tripled down. He made himself toxic. Big Finish looked at the lay of the land and made the decision to walk away. This woe is me, I’m the victim here is a sadly typical reaction.
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Post by lidar2 on Oct 18, 2021 9:04:00 GMT
Honestly i think Big Finish should have spoken to James and said "mate you have your views/belief and it doesn't match with the companies values which would affect our relationship with out customers output and that we feel that we should part ways we will release your work with us but after that we will go with another actor" at least it could have been an amicable way of parting ways with him that's just my 2cents Have to say I agree. My own instinct/professional background is whatever you do, confirm it in writing. Even if it's only 2 or 3 brief and minimally informative lines, always better to be polite, be professional and keep the paperwork tidy.
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Post by theillusiveman on Oct 18, 2021 9:13:10 GMT
Honestly i think Big Finish should have spoken to James and said "mate you have your views/belief and it doesn't match with the companies values which would affect our relationship with out customers output and that we feel that we should part ways we will release your work with us but after that we will go with another actor" at least it could have been an amicable way of parting ways with him that's just my 2cents Have to say I agree. My own instinct/professional background is whatever you do, confirm it in writing. Even if it's only 2 or 3 brief and minimally informative lines, always better to be polite, be professional and keep the paperwork tidy. Exactly yeah the radio silence I think made things heaps worse in the long run
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Post by kipperserver on Oct 18, 2021 9:18:31 GMT
Honestly i think Big Finish should have spoken to James and said "mate you have your views/belief and it doesn't match with the companies values which would affect our relationship with out customers output and that we feel that we should part ways we will release your work with us but after that we will go with another actor" at least it could have been an amicable way of parting ways with him that's just my 2cents Have to say I agree. My own instinct/professional background is whatever you do, confirm it in writing. Even if it's only 2 or 3 brief and minimally informative lines, always better to be polite, be professional and keep the paperwork tidy. We only have Dreyfus's word that they never called. Presumabnly BGF speak to his the agent!>? Unless Briggs has evereyone's phone number on speed dial. "They put out a statment saying they do not support transphobia in anyway shape or form. Sort of saying about me - we think he's transphobic!" Where is this statement>?
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Post by cwm on Oct 18, 2021 9:20:35 GMT
Dreyfus was given an opportunity to walk back his comments about transgender people when BF were first made aware of them. He decided to double down instead.
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