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Post by sherlock on Oct 11, 2021 12:46:45 GMT
Interesting development with Bad Wolf
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 11, 2021 12:52:51 GMT
(One second off from sherlock - wowzers) So yes, as said, an interesting development about Bad Wolf: Sony have been circling to buy them out (not due to any trouble - in fact the opposite) and, it seems (according to a more recent Broadcast report) they are close to doing so. www.screendaily.com/news/his-dark-materials-producer-bad-wolf-closes-in-on-50m-sale/5162982.articleUntil it happens, it's hard to comment (I would imagine whatever share Bad Wolf would get out of the 60th and subsequent series, Sony may see some of as the new parent company) what this means for us. I really doubt Sony is somehow going to use this to buy Who (this'd be a really convoluted way to do it, for a start) but given the framing is that Bad Wolf will take over more work from the BBC on the show, well, who can say how this will impact things like budget or rights arrangements?
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Oct 11, 2021 13:06:58 GMT
(One second off from sherlock - wowzers) So yes, as said, an interesting development about Bad Wolf: Sony have been circling to buy them out (not due to any trouble - in fact the opposite) and, it seems (according to a more recent Broadcast report) they are close to doing so. www.screendaily.com/news/his-dark-materials-producer-bad-wolf-closes-in-on-50m-sale/5162982.articleUntil it happens, it's hard to comment (I would imagine whatever share Bad Wolf would get out of the 60th and subsequent series, Sony may see some of as the new parent company) what this means for us. I really doubt Sony is somehow going to use this to buy Who (this'd be a really convoluted way to do it, for a start) but given the framing is that Bad Wolf will take over more work from the BBC on the show, well, who can say how this will impact things like budget or rights arrangements? I cannot see BBC ever selling off the show.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 11, 2021 13:10:44 GMT
Like I said, I doubt that what's happening.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 13:19:36 GMT
(One second off from sherlock - wowzers) So yes, as said, an interesting development about Bad Wolf: Sony have been circling to buy them out (not due to any trouble - in fact the opposite) and, it seems (according to a more recent Broadcast report) they are close to doing so. www.screendaily.com/news/his-dark-materials-producer-bad-wolf-closes-in-on-50m-sale/5162982.articleUntil it happens, it's hard to comment (I would imagine whatever share Bad Wolf would get out of the 60th and subsequent series, Sony may see some of as the new parent company) what this means for us. I really doubt Sony is somehow going to use this to buy Who (this'd be a really convoluted way to do it, for a start) but given the framing is that Bad Wolf will take over more work from the BBC on the show, well, who can say how this will impact things like budget or rights arrangements? I would imagine that in the BBC that there have been dicussion that it's not so much the show now looks cheap, just that event TV has film budgets so it's cheap in comparison. Disney are putting as much into their Marvel and Star Wars shows as they would a film. Clearly a BBC-owned show isn't ever going to manage that under the attempts from the Tories to destroy it, or kill it via irrelevance with budget freezes that make making shows harder. Bad Wolf, I'd imagine, are only getting a piece of the pie as long as they're making it, unlike other partners who would want to own a piece outright. RTD and July aren't going to asset strip the show or the BBC. So Sony having a slice via proxy is fine via me if they bring cash and experience. My only caveats would be. 1. No Studio interference. Amy Pascal at Sony was infamous for making ludicrous demands, late in post, that completely changed films. None of that, please. 2. That licencees get to continue. 3. Physical media releases of Who, classic and New, continue. Funny though - a Who movie was one of the ideas mooted in the major 2014 Sony emails leak. And David Yates had been talking about making it a year or two before. Would be odd if all involved got their wish over a decade later. There is precisely zero chance the BBC sell off their most lucrative show. Especially since the others are owned by production companies. Who, being so vintage, is one of the only ones they own lock, stock.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 11, 2021 13:26:44 GMT
I can't imagine any deal was done without knowing this was a possibility and anyway BBC Studios operate as a "Commercial Arm" which seems to mean they can Produce for and make money from having shows on various Network Platforms Worldwide.
Maybe RTD Multi-Verse ideas won't be as logistically far fetched as 1st thought?
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I'll doubt we'd ever get it but A Writer's Tale by Chibnail or on his Era becomes ever tantalizing
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 11, 2021 15:11:14 GMT
I'll doubt we'd ever get it but A Writer's Tale by Chibnail on his Era becomes ever tantalizing Regards mark687 I'd buy that in a heartbeat. There's a whole lot of stuff that I can't help but wonder about (plus, if anyone's earned the right to vent at least a bit, it's him).
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 11, 2021 15:20:10 GMT
I see a lot of 'Sony must be making a Who movie' floating around on social media and I think people might be misunderstanding something. Sony is buying up Bad Wolf, which is co-producing the next seasons on television. Piece of the pie, as davy stated. That's a separate thing from either buying the rights to, or simply just doing, features: rights to a property for various media adaptations are almost always separate from each other. For example, Wheel of Time is getting both a show and a movie, but made by completely different studios and teams, because the rights were sold separately.
If Sony wanted to make a Who movie,a proper theatrical film, they'd still have to buy the rights from the BBC, assuming their previous 2014 agreement hadn't already run out (do we even know if the rights to a film were bought then, or was it just speculative on Pascal's part?). I mean, might this be a toe dip to that? Maybe but not for a movie franchise in like a year or two.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Oct 11, 2021 17:35:50 GMT
Hmm...
Potential consequences -
1) None 2) The BBC gain a new strategic partner 3) Bad Wolf are forced to withdraw from making the new series 4) RTD is forced to withdraw from maknig the new series 5) The new series is scrapped 6) The new series is transmuted into a movie 7) Somebody (Sony, Disney, whoever) bids to buy DW from the BBC
'1' is the most likely scenario.... I can't see it being very likely that the Beeb will have turned the show over to Bad Wolf lock, stock and barrel, so Sony's potential for wrecking things would be necessarily limited.
On the other hand, maybe we'll get to see the 10th Doctor/Spiderman comic that was never produced turned into a movie....
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Oct 11, 2021 17:53:26 GMT
Hmm... Potential consequences - 1) None 2) The BBC gain a new strategic partner 3) Bad Wolf are forced to withdraw from making the new series 4) RTD is forced to withdraw from maknig the new series 5) The new series is scrapped 6) The new series is transmuted into a movie 7) Somebody (Sony, Disney, whoever) bids to buy DW from the BBC '1' is the most likely scenario.... I can't see it being very likely that the Beeb will have turned the show over to Bad Wolf lock, stock and barrel, so Sony's potential for wrecking things would be necessarily limited. On the other hand, maybe we'll get to see the 10th Doctor/Spiderman comic that was never produced turned into a movie.... Some very odd potential consequences here. I find it hard to believe that, coming so soon after the announcement, this wasn't a known factor when Bad Wolf were negotiating the deal. It would be naive to think this was out of the blue a few weeks after the announcement of Bad Wolf's involvement.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Oct 11, 2021 17:55:53 GMT
Some very odd potential consequences here. Most of them are not very likely, I agree, but I was trying to cover all bases.
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Post by stcoop on Oct 11, 2021 18:16:00 GMT
I find it hard to believe that, coming so soon after the announcement, this wasn't a known factor when Bad Wolf were negotiating the deal. It would be naive to think this was out of the blue a few weeks after the announcement of Bad Wolf's involvement.
It was. Here's a story from the 3rd of September three weeks before the announcement.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 12, 2021 7:20:13 GMT
Well, Sony also owns one of the biggest franchises in Germany, the Three Investigator series. They are going from strength to strength, the 5th live show is on, we get a third movie... so far, their involvement was nothing but great for the show. Yes, it is very commercial, they watch the IP like jealous hawks... on the other hand, the series appears to be save for now, they do not really interfere with the stories which continue to be in solid German hands. I cannot see any Americanization of the totally Germanized originally American book series. They just let our authors play and reap in the money. So yeah, I do not really fear about DW at all in that regard. But I would say, yes, a movie is certainly an option. Now they are also making a 3rd Investigator movie with a totally new cast (all German this time).
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Oct 12, 2021 7:28:52 GMT
Well, Sony also owns one of the biggest franchises in Germany, the Three Investigator series. They are going from strength to strength, the 5th live show is on, we get a third movie... so far, their involvement was nothing but great for the show. Yes, it is very commercial, they watch the IP like jealous hawks... on the other hand, the series appears to be save for now, they do not really interfere with the stories which continue to be in solid German hands. I cannot see any Americanization of the totally Germanized originally American book series. They just let our authors play and reap in the money. So yeah, I do not really fear about DW at all in that regard. But I would say, yes, a movie is certainly an option. Now they are also making a 3rd Investigator movie with a totally new cast (all German this time). subtitles for me
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 8:29:14 GMT
X Files did a movie in between seasons, anything is possible but all i want is the best actor who auditioned for the role, personally I'd like Damien Maloney or Harry Treadaway as The Doctor & a companion who maybe not necessarily good goes on adventures with the Doctor & personality evolves over time.
No more i love the Doctor companions it's boring.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 12, 2021 17:47:51 GMT
Well, Sony also owns one of the biggest franchises in Germany, the Three Investigator series. They are going from strength to strength, the 5th live show is on, we get a third movie... so far, their involvement was nothing but great for the show. Yes, it is very commercial, they watch the IP like jealous hawks... on the other hand, the series appears to be save for now, they do not really interfere with the stories which continue to be in solid German hands. I cannot see any Americanization of the totally Germanized originally American book series. They just let our authors play and reap in the money. So yeah, I do not really fear about DW at all in that regard. But I would say, yes, a movie is certainly an option. Now they are also making a 3rd Investigator movie with a totally new cast (all German this time). subtitles for me
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Come on, by then you will be fluent!
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 12, 2021 17:50:09 GMT
So, finally (stress at work) I have managed to watch both videos and opinions on this topic by the two Who Youtubers I follow (they are, like me, sick of toxic people and are pretty clear about deleting toxic comments). Council of Geeks and Stubagful. And as usual, they raise valid points and oh my god, I agree with both of them. Pretty much what I think. As usual, good videos.
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Post by elkawho on Oct 12, 2021 22:55:25 GMT
I've been meaning to watch the Stubagful video. Maybe I'll get to it tonight.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 12, 2021 23:19:07 GMT
Seriously, though, there really isn't a one of them who deserves to be at the bottom of a list. Can't we just put Richard E. Grant there and leave it at that? I rather like REG’s Doctor.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2021 1:49:53 GMT
Can't we just put Richard E. Grant there and leave it at that? I rather like REG’s Doctor. I do wonder what might have been... I can't remember the name of it, but I can remember very distinctly a programme hosted by Richard E. Grant. Set in Africa. At one point, he's on safari with the guides and the group sights a lion lazing out on the savannah. He's given the rifle, which is loaded with its safety off and there's a... almost a breathlessness to him when he holds it. He squares up the animal in the gunsights and asks: "Must I take the shot?" The guide smiles and says, it's entirely up to him. The words I remember most distinctly are: "That's a lot of power..." He adjusts the sights... You can't see his finger, but there's this moment of silence like a vacuum. The complete absence of noise. He exhales... And slowly gives the rifle back to the guide. That, to me, was the most Doctorish moment from an almost Doctor.
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