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Post by charlesuirdhein on Nov 7, 2021 20:51:47 GMT
Saying it would be an honour is less of a "no" than Olly Alexander's outright "no".
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 7, 2021 20:55:45 GMT
RTD will have more LGBTQ characters, I think we all know that'll be a given. What worries me, and the last few years have exacerbated this, is the media and fandom reaction. Especially towards trans characters, whether they're a companion or regular - with how toxic the press is to the community, will they be safe and made to feel welcome? They can't count on the whole fandom having their back (however good 'the writing' is will not matter one drop here), and the job is going to require them to be heavily in the media spotlight. From where I sit, this is a more difficult, and perhaps more important question than 'if A or B play 14' - We can all see the headlines, we can all see what's going to be said online - even if the kids absolutely love them, there will be scare stories of parents refusing to let their kids watch because 'reasons'. And even with RTD's vocal support, will it be worth an actor having a target arguably as big, if not bigger, than a female Doctor's, painted on them? Are they safe at a con? On a set? I'm also worried about the treatment of potential cast members (and writers, etc). "Fandom" and the media have gotten really ugly. I think within the fandom, we all need to make sure we shut down that bigotry and harassment as soon as we see it โ blocking, reporting, and showing a clear support for the cast and opposition to prejudice โ but there's only so much we can do when there's an entire industry devoted to churning out YouTube videos about "wokeness" and "forced diversity." And with the media, there's absolutely nothing we can do except call it out. When the BBC itself feels comfortable putting out anti-Trans articles, how much could we count on them to protect actors? It's important to have diversity anyway, because without it we're giving in to what the bigots want and people need to see the full range of humanity in stories, but I hate that the actors' safety (particularly their mental well-being) is a legitimate concern. Yes, sadly these bigots on social media are spreading like an infection - complaining that an advert is too woke because it has a black family in it. Social media needs to get tougher on these scum. & as you say we must call it out. Hopefully Doctor Who will embrace even more diversity going forward.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Nov 7, 2021 21:10:51 GMT
Saying it would be an honour is less of a "no" than Olly Alexander's outright "no". I wouldn't read anything into what anyone says at this point. Anyone who is in talks will be under an NDA. Hailee Steinfeld was outright denying her casting in Hawkeye for months, and several actors who are clearly in the new Spider-man are still saying they aren't. The BBC's not as spoilerphobic as Marvel, but the new lead actor still wouldn't be broadcasting that fact two years in advance without an official announcement.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 11, 2021 12:18:44 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Nov 12, 2021 16:19:57 GMT
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 14, 2021 14:40:44 GMT
One question that we're inevitably going to come up against is: is Murray Gold coming back, if Akinola opts to go with Chib? After all, he has done almost every show RTD's done, so it can't be ruled out. Of course, while RTD's been away for (by the time S14 airs) 13 years, Gold's only been away for five, soon six - is that enough time for him to refresh enough? Will he even want to come back?
If not, hey, a lot of potential options (and for the sake of discussion, not automatically going to Hollywood names) - seen some still fly the flag for Blair Mowat, but, partly as a nod to Delia, I'd be down for a female composer - Debbie Wiseman or Rachael Portman'd be amazing choices, veterans with lots of genre experience. Listen to Wiseman's score for the 2004 Lupin movie - it's sublime. Or for a more gothic Hincliffe sound, maybe Anne Nikitin (BBC's Pale Horse)?
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 14, 2021 14:52:00 GMT
One question that we're inevitably going to come up against is: is Murray Gold coming back, if Akinola opts to go with Chib? After all, he has done almost every show RTD's done, so it can't be ruled out. Of course, while RTD's been away for (by the time S14 airs) 13 years, Gold's only been away for five, soon six - is that enough time for him to refresh enough? Will he even want to come back? If not, hey, a lot of potential options (and for the sake of discussion, not automatically going to Hollywood names) - seen some still fly the flag for Blair Mowat, but, partly as a nod to Delia, I'd be down for a female composer - Debbie Wiseman or Rachael Portman'd be amazing choices, veterans with lots of genre experience. Listen to Wiseman's score for the 2004 Lupin movie - it's sublime. Or for a more gothic Hincliffe sound, maybe Anne Nikitin (BBC's Pale Horse)? Personally was not a huge fan of Gold, he did a few good themes but a lot of his stuff was very obvious & bombastic. & if he does return then will it signal that RTD2 era will just be a rehash of his first time round?
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 16, 2021 18:08:49 GMT
This is a bit more left field, but read:
A sign of a possible return? Experimenting with the slot?
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Post by stcoop on Nov 16, 2021 18:24:07 GMT
Depending on how "early evening" I can imagine it'll get up getting cut to bits, just like Buffy and Farscape and all the other US genre shows the Beeb used to show.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 19, 2021 9:17:07 GMT
If not, hey, a lot of potential options (and for the sake of discussion, not automatically going to Hollywood names) - seen some still fly the flag for Blair Mowat, but, partly as a nod to Delia, I'd be down for a female composer - Debbie Wiseman or Rachael Portman'd be amazing choices, veterans with lots of genre experience. Listen to Wiseman's score for the 2004 Lupin movie - it's sublime. Here's a suite of the movie's score to listen to.
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Post by Chakoteya on Nov 19, 2021 11:02:39 GMT
This is a bit more left field, but read: A sign of a possible return? Experimenting with the slot? Or just a sign that no other UK broadcaster wanted it so Auntie got it cheap? And unlike other UK broadcasters, the BBC does take its 'Auntie' role seriously in policing what can and can't be seen and heard on 'live TV' before the 2100h 'watershed' - despite so much now available 24/7 on demand and through recording machines.
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Post by commonman on Nov 21, 2021 10:51:01 GMT
I have been reading an old interview between RTD and Moffat (it's from DWM 551 and a transcript is on reddit). Interstingly, RTD lamented that he never did a direct sequel to a classic story, he used to think it was too fanjodrelly an idea. In the interview he wonders about a "Return of the Fendhal" story set on the same location.
Do you all think he actually will do a story like that now that he is back ?
Personally, although i am a fan of the original --probably more than most-- but I don't think he will do this return of the fendahl script or any classic story sequel. For the same reason he did not in his first era, I wish to be proven wrong though.
On another note, it has reported that Chibnall's tardis set is dismantled, a further indication that the 14th doctor's side of the regeneration scene is already shot.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Nov 21, 2021 14:14:10 GMT
I have been reading an old interview between RTD and Moffat (it's from DWM 551 and a transcript is on reddit). Interstingly, RTD lamented that he never did a direct sequel to a classic story, he used to think it was too fanjodrelly an idea. In the interview he wonders about a "Return of the Fendhal" story set on the same location. Do you all think he actually will do a story like that now that he is back ? Personally, although i am a fan of the original --probably more than most-- but I don't think he will do this return of the fendahl script or any classic story sequel. For the same reason he did not in his first era, I wish to be proven wrong though. On another note, it has reported that Chibnall's tardis set is dismantled, a further indication that the 14th doctor's side of the regeneration scene is already shot.Unless, as has happened before, the regeneration doesn't happen within the TARDIS...
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 21, 2021 14:32:19 GMT
I have been reading an old interview between RTD and Moffat (it's from DWM 551 and a transcript is on reddit). Interstingly, RTD lamented that he never did a direct sequel to a classic story, he used to think it was too fanjodrelly an idea. In the interview he wonders about a "Return of the Fendhal" story set on the same location. Do you all think he actually will do a story like that now that he is back ? Personally, although i am a fan of the original --probably more than most-- but I don't think he will do this return of the fendahl script or any classic story sequel. For the same reason he did not in his first era, I wish to be proven wrong though. On another note, it has reported that Chibnall's tardis set is dismantled, a further indication that the 14th doctor's side of the regeneration scene is already shot.Unless, as has happened before, the regeneration doesn't happen within the TARDIS... Yeah, I wouldn't read too much into this. RTD's been pretty candid that he's doing very little right now (he's focusing on that ITV drama about the old soap actor first), so we may start 14 somewhere very different.
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Post by Kestrel on Nov 23, 2021 4:05:47 GMT
Might be interesting to see the 14th Doctor go a while (like a full season) sans TARDIS. Really boil down this show to the absolute bare essentials: which, really, is just the lead character.
Sort of like a more malleable take on the 3rd Doctor's era -- only much freer, since there wouldn't be any blue box in a UNIT lab to stay shackled to.
Anyway, on the subject of revisiting old stories... I dunno 'bout y'all, but as soon as the idea popped into my head it stuck there: I'm really dying to see a follow up to 'The Enemy of the World.' There are so many different ways to tie into it, telling a new story either before, during or after the events of the episode. It would also be an ideal opportunity to use a Troughton-lookalike without recasting the Doctor.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 24, 2021 11:52:02 GMT
And here's RTD's last show before the return.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Nov 24, 2021 20:05:55 GMT
I'm really dying to see a follow up to 'The Enemy of the World.' There are so many different ways to tie into it, telling a new story either before, during or after the events of the episode. It would also be an ideal opportunity to use a Troughton-lookalike without recasting the Doctor. I've always thought that BF could do a story where the sixth Doctor teams up with youn Salamander. But on the basis they didn't do it a few years back, to coincide with the setting of the oriignal story, I assumed that Fraser Hines couldn't do the accent.
And here's RTD's last show before the return.
This has already led to speculatin that Helena Bonham Carter will be the next Doctor. Which means, if you're familiar with the Reduced Shakespeare Radio Show, the 14th Doctor will play the accordian and breathe fire, and be completely bald.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Nov 24, 2021 20:39:55 GMT
One thing I do like about RTD is his attention to obscure detail - remember in Planet of Spiders and K9 and Company, when people with Powers tried to scary Sarah-Jane, they tried to run her off the road with a tractor? RTD remembered, and killed off Sarah-Janes parents in an accident - hitting a tractor.
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Post by sherlock on Nov 24, 2021 23:48:55 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Nov 24, 2021 23:56:54 GMT
Watch out Marvel Studios! Seriously though seems there's going to be some serious attempt for Industry cred. Regards mark687
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