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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 15:35:55 GMT
I wish I could say I was upset. But...as much as S12 was a step up, the New Years ep was a step right back down. I'm sorry Jodie never got to do something under a new showrunner, or that Chibnall could cast another Doctor so we can get a more rounded look at them. I don't think either got to show their true talents - hopefully S13 and the specials shows that to be wrong and they go out on a high.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 15:39:37 GMT
My 14th Doc picks Tom Ellis Idris Elba Hayley Attwell Jo Martin Harry Threadaway Matt Ryan Tim Roth Robert Carlyle Adrian Lester Tom Hiddleston Regards mark687 Hiddleston, Roth or Elba on a BBC Wales 2022 budget? I always say they need to meet the test - can you imagine them spending 3/4 of the year in nightshoots in the Welsh rain and cold for 250k?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 15:41:05 GMT
Whilst many here have more ideas as to who would make a good showrunner and replacement for the lead actor in the role, I have none so it's a clean slate by me and I am open minded.
I do think though that the spacing out of the eight episodes being made are a way of kicking it into the long grass for another 12 months. A way of buying time perhaps. As the BBC news article acknowledges, the shows stock has fallen in recent years and it may well be that they have not been successful so far in securing those they may have had in mind. I have read quite few times that there has not been any plans for s14 for a while now, no team in place nor any pre-production underway.
Perhaps the plan or hope, is that these 8 episodes made may designed be to boost the popularity and ratings of the show and thus make it palatable for someone who is in demand to relaunch it for the 60th. The casting and securing of the showrunner may therefore be based on the success of the show as a going concern following the audience reaction to S13 and the two existing specials.
Just a view of course.
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Post by agentten on Jul 29, 2021 15:43:28 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised as the rumors circulating over the last six months seemed to suggest an exit from one or both of them. We'll be seeing the climax and conclusion of the Timeless Child arc soon. Whatever it turns out to be, it should be interesting to see how it's handled and what the reaction to it is. Where the show goes from there will also be interesting, especially given how dramatic the changes to the mythos were. We don't know yet if the plan is to set those changes in concrete at the end of this era. If it is, how will the next showrunner deal with it? Keep it? Change it? Ignore it? I'll be interested to see.
I'm sorry to see Whittaker go, as I usually am with each Doctor. I hope we'll hear her at Big Finish, naturally, and that she gets a great final year as the Doctor.
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Post by The Brigadier on Jul 29, 2021 15:53:43 GMT
While I'm not even going to try and guess who the next Doctor and Showrunner will be, it was nice of the BBC to give us a year to prepare for the emotional stress of the lovely Sue Barker dragging out the build up to the announcement of the 14th Doctor during next year's Wimbledon Men's Singles Final...🤪😁
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jul 29, 2021 15:58:37 GMT
It seems a bit of a risk to spring a brand-new showrunner onto the sixtieth anniversary.
On the other hand, if they're ever going to get somebody in to do a movie, an anniversary might be the time to do it?
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jul 29, 2021 16:03:35 GMT
On the other other hand, if that rumour about doing past Doctor standalone stories in 2023 is correct, maybe each one will have a different producer from the relevant era? Eg RTD producing a 9 episode, Moffat producing an 11 episode.... Saward on 5 or 6, even? Cartmel on 7? Hinchcliffe (and Platt) on 4 is probably a bit of a stretch, but what if it was all animated? Then we could even adventures for Purves, Hines and Treloar.
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Post by stcoop on Jul 29, 2021 16:06:23 GMT
Best news of the past 18 months. At least until they announce some other virtue signaling woke idiot is going to be in charge.
I notice that Season 13 is now only six episodes long, as well. So I guess two of the "specials" are actually episodes from this series that they moved to next year.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 29, 2021 16:07:19 GMT
On the other other hand, if that rumour about doing past Doctor standalone stories in 2023 is correct, maybe each one will have a different producer from the relevant era? Eg RTD producing a 9 episode, Moffat producing an 11 episode.... Saward on 5 or 6, even? Cartmel on 7? Hinchcliffe (and Platt) on 4 is probably a bit of a stretch, but what if it was all animated? Then we could even adventures for Purves, Hines and Treloar. I don't think there is any chance of Eccleston returning to play 9 but a multi-doctor miniseries event to celebrate the 60th would be cool.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Jul 29, 2021 16:07:23 GMT
On the other other hand, if that rumour about doing past Doctor standalone stories in 2023 is correct, maybe each one will have a different producer from the relevant era? Eg RTD producing a 9 episode, Moffat producing an 11 episode.... Saward on 5 or 6, even? Cartmel on 7? Hinchcliffe (and Platt) on 4 is probably a bit of a stretch, but what if it was all animated? Then we could even adventures for Purves, Hines and Treloar. Having seen Sylvester in the trailer for the Season 24 blu-ray set, he would undoubtedly be able to play the part again on TV proper, and I really hope he does. He still has all the energy, comedy and character that he did 30 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 16:19:57 GMT
On the other other hand, if that rumour about doing past Doctor standalone stories in 2023 is correct, maybe each one will have a different producer from the relevant era? Eg RTD producing a 9 episode, Moffat producing an 11 episode.... Saward on 5 or 6, even? Cartmel on 7? Hinchcliffe (and Platt) on 4 is probably a bit of a stretch, but what if it was all animated? Then we could even adventures for Purves, Hines and Treloar. Having seen Sylvester in the trailer for the Season 24 blu-ray set, he would undoubtedly be able to play the part again on TV proper, and I really hope he does. He still has all the energy, comedy and character that he did 30 years ago. it's perhaps worth bearing in mind that he has had hip replacements and the walking stick he is seen with these days is more than a prop. In short he is able to either stand up or sit down in his public appearances, so I gather.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 16:25:33 GMT
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Post by stcoop on Jul 29, 2021 16:26:41 GMT
I look forward to a year of totally unrealistic names being suggested* before the real next Doctor pops up on the betting websites a week before the official announcement.
*Hint: If someone has won a lot of awards or has already appeared in big movies and/or US TV shows, it's not going to be them. Eg. Michaela Cole. Phoebe Waller-Bridge. Jodie Comer. Idris Elba. etc.
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Post by ollychops on Jul 29, 2021 16:30:18 GMT
Disappointing about Jodie but not surprised since it's been rumoured for the last few months. Glad Chibnall is going at the same time though...
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jul 29, 2021 16:50:19 GMT
At least until they announce some other virtue signaling woke idiot is going to be in charge. Are we seriously still talking like this in 2021? Come on.
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Post by constonks on Jul 29, 2021 16:52:31 GMT
The saddest thing about this IMO: 31 episodes is nothing[/b] by Modern Who standards.
(And this means Jodie will likely be with Yaz until the end - nothing against Mandip, but it's always nice when you can see a Doctor with a completely different TARDIS team, which we probably won't)
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jul 29, 2021 16:53:06 GMT
(fun fact: her grandpa encouraged her pursuits and kept everything she wrote in a file).
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Post by stcoop on Jul 29, 2021 17:02:37 GMT
At least until they announce some other virtue signaling woke idiot is going to be in charge. Are we seriously still talking like this in 2021? Come on. Oh please don't Cancel me. I couldn't bear it.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jul 29, 2021 17:09:16 GMT
Are we seriously still talking like this in 2021? Come on. Oh please don't Cancel me. I couldn't bear it. Wha-who's talking about that? Went from one to six hundred there over saying 'You can complain about Chibnall without using a bunch of tired Twitter lingo'. Like, 'Chibnall sucks' is a lot easier to say than this random political tangent.
davy, daver, digi and fitz all said they didn't like Chibnall. Do you see me getting mad at them?
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 29, 2021 17:18:24 GMT
I’m really intrigued to see how Series 13 - with it all being one story - and the trilogy of specials pan out. Chibnall’s comments about a “three series and out” pact with Jodie to me implies a grand plan. I think we’ve seen that to a degree with Series 12, but not with Series 11 and ultimately that’s a third of the era; feels as though you’d get the ball running sooner when you’ve only got a finite amount of time.
That’s not a slight on Series 11 - I actually quite like it, though I do think it was broadcast in the wrong order - but it does feel more throwaway in comparison to Series 12’s arc and what we’ve been told about Series 13.
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