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Post by mark687 on Mar 8, 2022 15:05:44 GMT
Entertaining enough
Stolen Futures
I'm never going to be sold on a Romanna E-Space spin-off (just personal choice) but its a decent set up for up for one. The Hierarchy vs Democracy argument is reasonably well handled.
Prisim
Good entry for both its leads, it is the entry that clearly labels the Male Identifying characters as stealers of agency, causers of abuse or harmless fools.
The Turn of the Tides
The most overall enjoyable entry covering multiple current Issues Very good from Anji Mohindra in Rani's BF Debut, Katy Manning just plays Jo Jones as a even more sincere and charming version of herself and I'm here for it, Jay Griffins is fine as Jac (though think a older Osgood or a younger Professor Rutherford.) Its also the best at the intent versus result argument.
Regards
mark687
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 8, 2022 15:27:51 GMT
I wasn’t very keen on Stolen Futures at all, I’m afraid. A lot of dialogue and very little else, nothing really grabbed me and I’m not sure it even works as a pilot to a wider range. The highlight for me was K9 reading the end credits!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2022 16:04:32 GMT
No that on 19th november so if you trying to make a point get the date right maybe. That’s what google told me The whole "you cant celebrate one group without celebrating the one Im in too" is a bit...2016 anyway. If the treatment the mere mention of Jodie on the official FB and Twitter is even a small indicator, this box, and the sentiment is much more important than "Whens the bloke one?" - we had a dozen male leads back to back for the franchise. BF have a fab record of the ladies of DW coming to the fore with all the spinoffs, and celebration of that? Absolutely fantastic.
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 8, 2022 19:02:51 GMT
I liked that Prism had two diverging strands before coming together, I wish the River & Leela story had done that in the first set. Unfortunately, I wasn’t that engaged by the story. Jenny lacked the fun of her range and I’m not keen on Christina anyway. Prism didn’t do anything to change that and I didn’t think Michelle Ryan was great and completely lacked any rapport with Georgia Tennant.
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Post by mark687 on Mar 8, 2022 19:43:38 GMT
I liked that Prism had two diverging strands before coming together, I wish the River & Leela story had done that in the first set. Unfortunately, I wasn’t that engaged by the story. Jenny lacked the fun of her range and I’m not keen on Christina anyway. Prism didn’t do anything to change that and I didn’t think Michelle Ryan was great and completely lacked any rapport with Georgia Tennant. Michelle recorded separately or even remotely, with that in mind the rapport was Ok I thought. Regards mark687
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Post by pdt on Mar 8, 2022 20:34:27 GMT
How does the timeline work with that final story? Jac was killed in the Zygon two-parter, while it seems Rani's adventuring solo after Sarah Jane died. It doesn't feel like they should be able to coexist..?
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Post by sherlock on Mar 8, 2022 20:43:51 GMT
How does the timeline work with that final story? Jac was killed in the Zygon two-parter, while it seems Rani's adventuring solo after Sarah Jane died. It doesn't feel like they should be able to coexist..? Haven’t heard this set yet but as Farewell Sarah Jane didn’t give a firm date, I guess we assume Sarah died sometime prior to the Zygon story.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 8, 2022 23:04:34 GMT
Stolen Futures
That was okay. The Tharils and how the Gateways/Mirrors work are just as borderline incomprehensible as in Warriors’ Gate which for the species is interesting, the Mirrors less so when the plot relies kinda on them. Romana riding solo without the weight of Gallifrey on her shoulders or playing second fiddle to the Doctor is really the point of this story, and it works fine.
Like others, I don’t think I’d be rushing to order a full series of this, which I imagine might be on the cards as Big Finish are no longer using Romana in the Time War stuff and probably want to keep the character active beyond her appearances in the 4DAs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 4:41:50 GMT
When the first voice you hear in the whole set is Lalla in bossy mode, I instantly thought "well...you are off to a bad start for Mark!"
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 9, 2022 9:44:48 GMT
Prisim Good entry for both its leads, it is the entry that clearly labels the Male Identifying characters as stealers of agency, causers of abuse or harmless fools.
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 9, 2022 14:19:18 GMT
I thought The Turn of the Tides was a lovely little story. We perhaps don't get as much background on Rani as what some would want, but she's a very welcome addition and Anjli is of course wonderful in everything she does. I adore what Big Finish have done with Jo Jones and this instalment just builds on that; pure, joyous Katy Manning. I did think Jac was a little unserved, if I'm honest. She's a lot more confrontational than what you'd think based on her TV appearances and she plays second fiddle in the last half. I think I'd have preferred Osgood, if I'm honest, just for her rapport with Jo if nothing else, but hopefully Jac makes a return if UNIT decides to delve into post-Day, pre-Zygons a bit more at a later date.
Mixed set overall for me, but I love the format of this range and it's something that goes beyond International Women's Day. It's really the only full cast anthology type of range Big Finish have going, certainly for their Doctor Who range, with the Companion Chronicles seemingly retiring, and there's no restriction on the era covered. I can see that having quite the appeal for fans either not overly familiar with Big Finish, or only get releases with the Doctor in. Just think of a set that has an episode apiece from River, Martha, Donna & Rose; that'd be pretty special. In fact, an introductory bundle like that utilising already released episodes at a discounted price doesn't sound like a bad idea!
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Post by sherlock on Mar 9, 2022 18:37:02 GMT
I’m halfway through Prism and am completely lost in this plot. Not helping is the fact that it’s been so long since I watched Planet of the Dead I can’t really remember what Christina sounds like, so I keep getting her and another posh-voiced character mixed up. I think I’ll have to restart later this evening for a fresh go.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Mar 10, 2022 4:52:06 GMT
How does the timeline work with that final story? Jac was killed in the Zygon two-parter, while it seems Rani's adventuring solo after Sarah Jane died. It doesn't feel like they should be able to coexist..? Haven’t heard this set yet but as Farewell Sarah Jane didn’t give a firm date, I guess we assume Sarah died sometime prior to the Zygon story. I’m pretty sure Sarah Jane is still alive here although they were vague. Rani is just adventuring solo because she’s grown up. At least it’s definitely the first time Rani and Jo have been in contact since Death of the Doctor even though Jo was at the funeral in Farewell Sarah Jane.
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Post by pawntake on Mar 10, 2022 8:55:59 GMT
Interesting thread this,it seems to be back on track! In the middle there it went slightly bonkers
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Post by newt5996 on Mar 10, 2022 18:37:44 GMT
Listened to this over the last couple of days. Overall good but some weak spots. The middle episode especially felt a bit stuffed with too many ideas for a one hour story but I loved the other two.
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Post by IndieMacUser on Mar 12, 2022 11:49:34 GMT
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Post by sherlock on Mar 12, 2022 15:37:00 GMT
Gave Prism a second go after watching some clips of Planet of the Dead on YouTube to remind myself what Christina sounds like. I do think there are a few too many ideas at play here, but it’s a valiant effort at bridging two very far apart spin-offs.
The Turn of the Tide is the standout. Whilst one twist is very easy to see coming, there’s just something joyous about hearing Rani and Jo together again and Jac made a surprisingly interesting addition to the mix. I hope for more of these characters elsewhere.
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Post by noneofyourbusiness on Mar 27, 2022 0:09:12 GMT
You have a typo in the first and last paragraphs where you call it "Prisoners of Time".
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Post by Ian McArdell on Mar 27, 2022 20:08:56 GMT
My take on this release has just landed at CultBox - in short, entertaining but not essential... and can we have a Rani/Jo series please? And a surname for UNIT's Jac too!
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Post by ollychops on Mar 27, 2022 20:57:17 GMT
Found this quite a middling release, unfortunately. As someone who isn't particularly a fan of Warriors' Gate, Stolen Futures was... fine.
I really couldn't get into Prism at all and I can't put my finger quite on why, perhaps it was because Christina sounded similar to one of the guest characters so it made it hard to distinguish at times, but the plot didn't grab me - it wasn't actively bad but just a story I couldn't get into, maybe I'll try giving this one a relisten another day.
The Turn of the Tides was the best story of the set but the story seemed to drag out a bit towards the end and I felt like it could've been at least 5-10 minutes shorter than it was.
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