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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jan 16, 2016 13:03:35 GMT
Its worth mentioning that the story length is determined by how much can be recorded. If you didn't have the CD extras, you wouldn't get extra story, you'd get blank space. Thank you John. That aspect was one I had not considered. All the best and happy new year.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jan 17, 2016 9:54:03 GMT
Justin Richards effortlessly captured the season 17 tone but removed the OTT silliness of that season & crafted a excellent Fourth Doctor audio drama.
Tom & Lalla are the Morecambe & Wise of Doctor Who.
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Post by lemmingsunday1 on Jan 18, 2016 9:23:36 GMT
Where did the helicopter come from?
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Post by Timelord007 on Jan 18, 2016 14:09:01 GMT
Where did the helicopter come from? Barretts apparently.
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Post by mark687 on Jan 19, 2016 10:09:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 16:52:51 GMT
Just been reading the equivalent to this thread on Gallifrey Base. Think I'll stay here in future, i don't think many of them actually like Doctor who. Or anything really.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 18:14:02 GMT
Just been reading the equivalent to this thread on Gallifrey Base. Think I'll stay here in future, i don't think many of them actually like Doctor who. Or anything really. You Are Not Alone
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Post by glutamodo on Jan 21, 2016 3:11:55 GMT
My turn to weigh in on this episode. It was good, not great but still solid. Now, I also had the thought after listening, that it would have been better had it been written as a 3 or 4 parter. And after seeing the on-topic posts in this thread it looks like I'm not alone. A CD holds 80 minutes, you can put three 25 minutes episodes onto one, and BF has done this once before.
The interviews are OK but I'd be all for there being a season-spanning release or make them d/l extras, if that meant they would write and produce longer stories.
Personally, I find most of the actor interviews get a bit old, they come down to "we laughed so much in the green room" "the lunch was amazing" "I never recorded in separate booths before" "This was So Well Written" and "XXXX actor is great to work with"
The interviews with the writers and producers I tend to find more of interest.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 10:42:38 GMT
With the extras, I suppose there are only a limited number of stories that can be told by actors, much as there are at conventions and the like. Personally, I like hearing from all who have contributed to the finished product - cast and crew. My honest opinion is that the Fourth Doctor stories should be longer. I have loved the four and six part audios. That extra time gives Tom's Doctor time to breathe and indulge in a few idiosyncracies and, dare I say, allow for a little off-the-cuff spontaneity that was such a hall-mark of his television stories.
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Post by dorney on Jan 21, 2016 11:10:41 GMT
The interviews are OK but I'd be all for there being a season-spanning release or make them d/l extras, if that meant they would write and produce longer stories.
Sorry to reiterate the earlier point, but it wouldn't mean that.
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Post by glutamodo on Jan 21, 2016 13:20:32 GMT
Yeah, I know... the 4DA model is how it is. You guys make the best stories you can within that framework, and that's fine to an extent. Sometimes (not always) though, I get to the end of a story, and can't help but think "that's it, it's over already?" and this was one of those times for me.
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Post by muckypup on Jan 21, 2016 13:44:44 GMT
My turn to weigh in on this episode. It was good, not great but still solid. Now, I also had the thought after listening, that it would have been better had it been written as a 3 or 4 parter. And after seeing the on-topic posts in this thread it looks like I'm not alone. A CD holds 80 minutes, you can put three 25 minutes episodes onto one, and BF has done this once before.
The interviews are OK but I'd be all for there being a season-spanning release or make them d/l extras, if that meant they would write and produce longer stories.
Personally, I find most of the actor interviews get a bit old, they come down to "we laughed so much in the green room" "the lunch was amazing" "I never recorded in separate booths before" "This was So Well Written" and "XXXX actor is great to work with"
The interviews with the writers and producers I tend to find more of interest. They could do three 22/25 minute episodes, but you would also add a third more studio time, a third more production time, so a third price increase would have to happen. so the only way we would get more story is to pay more removing the extras would not help the increases in production, so lose the extras you just would lose out only real way to get longer stories is to go for a double cd and raise the price.
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Post by glutamodo on Jan 21, 2016 15:09:40 GMT
And I realize this... And I understand that's the business model for this series. I'm certainly aware that more story content would cost more to produce. Don't mis-read me here, I'm not trying to get something for free, I would pay more for longer stories... I've bought all the longer special releases after all.
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Post by muckypup on Jan 21, 2016 15:15:09 GMT
And I realize this... And I understand that's the business model for this series. I'm certainly aware that more story content would cost more to produce. Don't mis-read me here, I'm not trying to get something for free, I would pay more for longer stories... I've bought all the longer special releases after all. so what you really want is a double cd 4th doc range, which I think is a good idea....but leave the 4 doc adventures as single disk with the extras as they are...they do work and the longer 3 disk stories like Hichcliffe are just too expensive for most (even though they are excellent) or even better give him a main range trilogy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 16:37:21 GMT
Double CD four-part stories are the way to go for me, that would be my ideal. Of course that would increase the price, but I'd be happy with that, especially as the ideas in the stories could be expanded upon and given room to 'breathe'. I can't imagine that if 'Talons' was a two-parter, for example, it would be anywhere near as highly thought of as it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 16:57:25 GMT
Well basically it sounds like what you're looking for is a season where each story is spread across two months, which they currently only do about once a year. Like a season 9 for the 4da's.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 5:29:48 GMT
Double CD four-part stories are the way to go for me, that would be my ideal. Of course that would increase the price, but I'd be happy with that, especially as the ideas in the stories could be expanded upon and given room to 'breathe'. I can't imagine that if 'Talons' was a two-parter, for example, it would be anywhere near as highly thought of as it is. While I enjoy the longer stories, personally I feel that The Fourth Doctor Adventures tales aquit themselves quite well with the two-part format and personally feel that the stories told suit the length.
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 23, 2016 12:06:13 GMT
I am very happy with the structure of the 4DAs.
However I still hope that we can get some more box-set/longer releases announced soon for the Fourth Doctor.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jan 23, 2016 19:33:41 GMT
Wave of Destruction is a prime example of what Justin Richards does as a writer of Doctor Who. He doesn't reinvent the wheel but instead writes stories that fit snugly within that era of the program. This play is fun, moves along quickly, has clever & witty things for Tom and company to play with and wraps up right where it needs to. As someone who would love to have traditional 4-part episodes with the 4th Doctor I felt like Wave of Destruction was just right at its present length. Comfortable is the word I'd use to describe it with a heavy does of nostalgic. In short, it was kind of a perfect little story for the range. I love the Vardans as a bad guy and they are perfect for audio. Anyway, listening to this one for a fun hour in the car.
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Post by mrperson on Jan 24, 2016 22:26:47 GMT
Without answering for John, I'm sure he's saying in "how much can physically be recorded with Tom Baker" not literally how much can fit on the disc. Basically, yes. Well, now I feel like a jerk (unprintables omitted). If Tom's range is in the 60 minute format because the recording sessions required for longer episodes are too taxing, then I ought be grateful for anything that The Good Doctor does (well, I ought to and am, either way); I'm incredibly glad that he came back at all.
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