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Post by mark687 on May 31, 2023 15:00:47 GMT
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Post by grinch on May 31, 2023 15:12:36 GMT
Sounds more up my street than the first volume did. I can only hope that the return of recognisable monsters was deliberately done to ease us into the concept more.
And mostly new writers as well by the looks of it! Which is always nice.
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Post by masterdoctor on May 31, 2023 15:18:33 GMT
Other than the cover (why does everything look so… droopy), the stories sound solid and my interest is piqued, though I’ll wait for reviews and/or more sets to come out to see if I should spend the money.
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Post by lidar2 on May 31, 2023 15:34:20 GMT
Jamie on the cover looks older than Jamie on the cover of the Annihilators, which I thought was supposed, from the 2nd Doctor's point of view, to be set in the same post War Games era of Jamie travelling with the 2nd Doctor? Maybe it will be explained in the story or maybe it is a faux pas?
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Post by jacobz40 on May 31, 2023 15:34:36 GMT
Looking forward!
Side note: I notice that this set was recorded at the beginning of May for release in July. That's a wild turn-around time! Interesting contrast with other teams that seem to be banking for a year or more ahead.
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Post by mark687 on May 31, 2023 15:43:02 GMT
Jamie on the cover looks older than Jamie on the cover of the Annihilators, which I thought was supposed, from the 2nd Doctor's point of view, to be set in the same post War Games era of Jamie travelling with the 2nd Doctor? Maybe it will be explained in the story or maybe it is a faux pas? Different Artist and working off a different Photo Regards mark687 |
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Post by grinch on May 31, 2023 15:58:14 GMT
Jamie on the cover looks older than Jamie on the cover of the Annihilators, which I thought was supposed, from the 2nd Doctor's point of view, to be set in the same post War Games era of Jamie travelling with the 2nd Doctor? Maybe it will be explained in the story or maybe it is a faux pas? I could see Jamie possibly being rejuvenated by the mysterious Raven to be of more use to the Doctor in his mission. But that’s purely just speculation on my part. |
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Post by shallacatop on May 31, 2023 16:21:30 GMT
I’m not convinced that we need Jamie back for this range, but I do love the sound of the stories. That’s much more how I’d envisage a Season 6B to be, so I remain optimistic.
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Post by sherlock on May 31, 2023 16:32:14 GMT
Hmm new writers, no obvious returning old foes; this is much more like it for a new era for Two! My only concern is whether I can jump on here without the first set.
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Post by timleschild on May 31, 2023 16:35:16 GMT
A new era for 2nd Doctor. But this time we have an old companion?
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Post by ollychops on May 31, 2023 17:00:40 GMT
Yeah… not for me. Don’t really get why they bother squeezing in a whole new era post-WG if they’re just gonna fall back on using Jamie instead of creating a new companion. If it’s just going to be Two/Jamie why not set it during their established era?
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Post by grinch on May 31, 2023 17:22:39 GMT
To be honest, I’m more curious to see if Raven appears in future stories regarding future incarnations of the Doctor.
I’m sure his former Time Lord handler would want to keep tabs on him even after he’s released from their services.
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Post by nardole on May 31, 2023 17:51:04 GMT
Probably cause of the two doctors which is sometimes tied to season 6b but i also would like a new companion for the 2nd doctor.
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Post by Alastair on May 31, 2023 19:21:24 GMT
I really liked the mysterious Cold War vibe of the first set, so this was pre-ordered long ago. I don’t mind Jamie coming back (as it’s part of the mystery laid down in The Annihilators and prior Season 6B fanon), so long as they find other ways to maintain the sense of an authentic “new era”. I’d still love a new companion by the next one, though.
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Post by martinw8686 on May 31, 2023 21:54:34 GMT
Hmm new writers, no obvious returning old foes; this is much more like it for a new era for Two! My only concern is whether I can jump on here without the first set. I think you can jump on, just knowing the 2nd is working for the timelords after War Games. He's been pulled out of time in the second between his death and regenerating into the 3rd Doctor. That said I really enjoyed the first story from Beyond War Games but the second could have been any story from the 2nd Doctor era. |
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Post by Kestrel on Jun 1, 2023 7:50:40 GMT
I clicked the link and the first thing I saw was the cover -- folks, I tell ya'... the grin that put on my face sure was something. Very excited for this one. Definitely my most-anticipated XDA, easily among my most-anticipated of all upcoming releases (only the War Master sets are ahead of it so far). Yeah… not for me. Don’t really get why they bother squeezing in a whole new era post-WG if they’re just gonna fall back on using Jamie instead of creating a new companion. If it’s just going to be Two/Jamie why not set it during their established era? I think it's a mistake to think of these two incarnations of Jaime as the same companion/character (a sentiment I'm not just directing at your comment here, but also at Big Finish). This new Jaime is a totally different person -- separated by how many decades? -- from the TV companion. He has, or should have, a fairly different outlook on life and relationship to the Doctor informed by those many years of experience. Who among us here is the same person they were even 10 years ago? If this new, "Old Jaime," is functionally identical to the old, "Young a Jaime," that would be an enormous misstep on the part of the writers and would betray both a fundamental lack of understanding how characters work and an extreme disregard for the intelligence of the audience. That said, I, too, would be keen on a new companion -- or even some solo stories. Who doesn't like a good companion-free story now and then, eh? So I'm inclined to give this set the benefit of doubt, for now at least. |
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 1, 2023 7:57:35 GMT
Hmm new writers, no obvious returning old foes; this is much more like it for a new era for Two! My only concern is whether I can jump on here without the first set. I think you can jump on, just knowing the 2nd is working for the timelords after War Games. He's been pulled out of time in the second between his death and regenerating into the 3rd Doctor. That said I really enjoyed the first story from Beyond War Games but the second could have been any story from the 2nd Doctor era. Yep, Beyond War Games adds nothing to what everyone already knows about Season 6B. There’s a new character, Raven, but their presence is so minimal that presumably James Robert McCrimmon will be their proper debut. |
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Post by nardole on Jun 1, 2023 13:25:21 GMT
Plus Jamie in the show usually had other companions with him so maybe they'll introduce one later
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Post by The Brigadier on Jun 1, 2023 15:06:06 GMT
Consider me intrigued. I actually liked the first set, but with new writers and (presumably) no returning villains... this looks like it might be the fresh coat of paint to the era we were promised. I'm curious though to see what approach the writers will offer a post The War Games and pre The Annihilators Jamie (the cover has thrown me as to where in the timeline his new travels with the Doctor will begin), or whether we can simply expect more of what we have had before. Hopefully it'll be the former.
Looking forward to hearing the trailer...and seeing the first reviews.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Jun 3, 2023 6:42:07 GMT
It’s presumably pretty straightforward approximately how old Jamie is here: Culloden was in 1745 and the first story in this set is 1776, so unless there’s something else afoot, he’s thirty years older than when he left the Doctor. Which would put him somewhere in his 50s, depending on how long he travelled with the Doctor and how that affected his aging.
Cover art is more for advertising than “canonical,” IMO. Just look at how the TV Movie rights issues have caused minor inconsistencies with the Eighth and Seventh Doctor’s ages, for example.
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