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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 14, 2024 9:06:16 GMT
"Jamie has gone missing, while Zoe apparently returns after a lifetime away from the TARDIS. Does even the sinister Time Lord Raven realise the terrifying extent of the conspiracy in which she is embroiled? The Doctor and his friends must fight to uncover the truth.
Kippers by Nicholas Briggs The Doctor and Jamie have attempted to break free from performing covert missions for the Time Lord agent Raven. But things haven’t gone according to plan. Jamie has vanished, Raven finds herself in a familiar yet strangely disturbing location. And all the while, half-glimpsed, unnervingly perceived… something… fluttering, buzzing, tugging at their very souls…
Catastrophe Theory by Mark Wright When the Doctor comes face to face with Zoe, can he be sure it really is his old friend? Jamie is lost somewhere in the cosmos, and the Doctor must find him. From a pleasure cruiser on course for destruction, to an alien world invaded by savage warriors, the Doctor faces catastrophe at every turn - but what has become of Raven?
The Vanishing Point by Mark Wright and Nicholas Briggs Following the threads of a conspiracy twisting throughout all of time and space, the Doctor and his companions head to the Vanishing Point - a mythical place, said to exist somewhere between science and magic. But it is a journey from which they may never return."
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Post by sherlock on Jun 14, 2024 9:52:59 GMT
Intriguing hints. I’m not massively interested in Zoe’s return as it feels like them moving this towards a continuation of Season 6 rather than an actually distinct era for Two, but they make it sound like there’s more to this than a simple reunion at least. Raven seems to be up in prominence which is nice to see as in the last boxset she was easily most interesting character.
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 14, 2024 11:18:51 GMT
Still not sold on this “new” era yet, especially as they continue to bring back companions and don’t differentiate the Doctor’s characterisation or the stories being told. This article doesn’t do much to change that; I hope the actual stories do.
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Post by timleschild on Jun 14, 2024 11:24:16 GMT
So another 2nd Doctor companion returns. What is the point of this range?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2024 12:21:14 GMT
Still not sold on this “new” era yet, especially as they continue to bring back companions and don’t differentiate the Doctor’s characterisation or the stories being told. This article doesn’t do much to change that; I hope the actual stories do. Same here. I'm a big fan of the Second Doctor, but this seems solely about getting 'the band together' following their split in The War Games, which undermines the bittersweet climax of that story - and begs the question: why not just tell stories from the Second Doctor's era as it was? I honestly think BF have tied themselves in knots over this 6B stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2024 13:00:39 GMT
Still not sold on this “new” era yet, especially as they continue to bring back companions and don’t differentiate the Doctor’s characterisation or the stories being told. This article doesn’t do much to change that; I hope the actual stories do. Same here. I'm a big fan of the Second Doctor, but this seems solely about getting 'the band together' following their split in The War Games, which undermines the bittersweet climax of that story - and begs the question: why not just tell stories from the Second Doctor's era as it was? I honestly think BF have tied themselves in knots over this 6B stuff. TV Comics strips in 69-mid70 had The Doctor return to Earth and become a celebrity, as they had to fill a lot of time before Pertwee was cast and costumed. They were the first very out of the box Doctor Who stories in other mediums. All the amazing comics, novels and BF arguably start there. That the announcement is dull and safe - then it turns out Nick is writing half of it? Yeah. Not inspiring.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2024 13:16:03 GMT
Same here. I'm a big fan of the Second Doctor, but this seems solely about getting 'the band together' following their split in The War Games, which undermines the bittersweet climax of that story - and begs the question: why not just tell stories from the Second Doctor's era as it was? I honestly think BF have tied themselves in knots over this 6B stuff. TV Comics strips in 69-mid70 had The Doctor return to Earth and become a celebrity, as they had to fill a lot of time before Pertwee was cast and costumed. They were the first very out of the box Doctor Who stories in other mediums. All the amazing comics, novels and BF arguably start there. That the announcement is dull and safe - then it turns out Nick is writing half of it? Yeah. Not inspiring. I know I've said this before, but if BF adapted that final comic strip - Night Walkers - I'd snap it up like a shot. Warning - spoilers in the link!
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Post by theillusiveman on Jun 14, 2024 13:56:49 GMT
Not keen on the artwork but I think the trailer is decent
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Post by relativetime on Jun 14, 2024 15:06:05 GMT
I already had this one preordered so I guess I'll be listening, but this is still disappointing. It's just exactly what I was afraid this range was going to do. What's the point of Season 6B if you're just going to do what Season 6A did? I love Jamie and Zoe, and if the range had advertised itself as just telling more stories set during their original tenure, I'd have been all for that. Instead they've dangled this idea of a whole new unheard of era in our faces only to completely undermine it before it's even really started and I'm feeling a bit frustrated with that.
This is ALL the Classic Who ranges are doing these days too, just having older versions of former companions return to the TARDIS to resume their travels once again. Vicki, Jo, Harry, Nyssa, Peri, Ace - it's happened so many times now at BF and it's frustrating! And sure, a lot of these returning companion storylines were actually really really good like with Vicki, Nyssa and Peri. But it's happened so often that it's hard not to see the business side of things behind the decision, which is that they're only making a small amount of stories for this Doctor each year and they want to keep the original actors on the payroll as often as they can.
Add a second boxset each year for Season 6A stories like the Third Doctor Adventures is doing with the older Jo at the very least.
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Post by 20fridge on Jun 14, 2024 16:31:26 GMT
TV Comics strips in 69-mid70 had The Doctor return to Earth and become a celebrity, as they had to fill a lot of time before Pertwee was cast and costumed. They were the first very out of the box Doctor Who stories in other mediums. All the amazing comics, novels and BF arguably start there. That the announcement is dull and safe - then it turns out Nick is writing half of it? Yeah. Not inspiring. I know I've said this before, but if BF adapted that final comic strip - Night Walkers - I'd snap it up like a shot. Warning - spoilers in the link! Reading those panels from Night Walkers, I have to say that I would be in favor of that as an eventual end to the range. Also {Spoiler} It's amazing how that comic depicted regeneration. That would not be out of place in a modern Who regeneration episode, right down to the effects around his hands and head.
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Post by timleschild on Jun 14, 2024 18:09:38 GMT
I already had this one preordered so I guess I'll be listening, but this is still disappointing. It's just exactly what I was afraid this range was going to do. What's the point of Season 6B if you're just going to do what Season 6A did? I love Jamie and Zoe, and if the range had advertised itself as just telling more stories set during their original tenure, I'd have been all for that. Instead they've dangled this idea of a whole new unheard of era in our faces only to completely undermine it before it's even really started and I'm feeling a bit frustrated with that. This is ALL the Classic Who ranges are doing these days too, just having older versions of former companions return to the TARDIS to resume their travels once again. Vicki, Jo, Harry, Nyssa, Peri, Ace - it's happened so many times now at BF and it's frustrating! And sure, a lot of these returning companion storylines were actually really really good like with Vicki, Nyssa and Peri. But it's happened so often that it's hard not to see the business side of things behind the decision, which is that they're only making a small amount of stories for this Doctor each year and they want to keep the original actors on the payroll as often as they can. Add a second boxset each year for Season 6A stories like the Third Doctor Adventures is doing with the older Jo at the very least. So true. This is a complete waste of time & has been wrongly promoted as something new. They just want to bring back original companions at the age they are now.
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Post by Star Platinum on Jun 14, 2024 18:42:34 GMT
I know I've said this before, but if BF adapted that final comic strip - Night Walkers - I'd snap it up like a shot. Warning - spoilers in the link! Reading those panels from Night Walkers, I have to say that I would be in favor of that as an eventual end to the range. Also {Spoiler} It's amazing how that comic depicted regeneration. That would not be out of place in a modern Who regeneration episode, right down to the effects around his hands and head. I remember about 5-10 years ago Nick Briggs was talking about doing the Action in Exile comics as a comic adaptation, I certainly hope they revisit that discussion.
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Post by martinw8686 on Jun 14, 2024 20:40:11 GMT
I thought last year's set was brilliant, one of my highlights of the year. Raven is creepy and intriguing, I look forward to her taking centre stage. Michael and Fraser formed a wonderful double act, which I hope continues for many years.
I see the return of an older Zoe has caused some raised eyebrows from earlier posts, but I think we'll see something of a twist on the usual trope of recent older returning companions. The first story from set one, was delightfully weird and I feel this range has a foot in honouring the 2nd Doctor's original run and another in forging ahead into something new.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2024 21:54:15 GMT
I thought last year's set was brilliant, one of my highlights of the year. Raven is creepy and intriguing, I look forward to her taking centre stage. Michael and Fraser formed a wonderful double act, which I hope continues for many years. I see the return of an older Zoe has caused some raised eyebrows from earlier posts, but I think we'll see something of a twist on the usual trope of recent older returning companions. The first story from set one, was delightfully weird and I feel this range has a foot in honouring the 2nd Doctor's original run and another in forging ahead into something new. Would it even be that new? We've had these exact same two companions back before with "something of a twist" - the MR trilogy which brought back older Jamie and Zoe, ending up in The Land Of Fiction for Legend Of The Cybermen.
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Post by martinw8686 on Jun 15, 2024 1:12:38 GMT
It feels new to me because with this splinter timeline, our three older leads can go beyond the bounds of their original era, as well as the added jeopardy of being controlled by Raven.
I love the 2nd Doctor era when it's at it's most weird. Also having his original companions gives the Doctor added reason to take care rebelling against his Timelord keepers.
I love the dynamic with Raven, so I have faith I'll enjoys this set.
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Post by relativetime on Jun 15, 2024 3:22:14 GMT
I thought last year's set was brilliant, one of my highlights of the year. Raven is creepy and intriguing, I look forward to her taking centre stage. Michael and Fraser formed a wonderful double act, which I hope continues for many years. I see the return of an older Zoe has caused some raised eyebrows from earlier posts, but I think we'll see something of a twist on the usual trope of recent older returning companions. The first story from set one, was delightfully weird and I feel this range has a foot in honouring the 2nd Doctor's original run and another in forging ahead into something new. I sincerely hope you’re right. I really enjoyed last year’s set too despite having similar trepidations - I guess I’m just feeling a little cynical tonight :/
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Post by Alastair on Jun 15, 2024 5:17:49 GMT
Similar feelings here: first instinct is that we’re missing an opportunity for a truly new era, but volumes 1-2 earned a lot of goodwill.
So far the series has carved out a subtle but distinct new identity for itself: a little Cold-Warish, a little weirder, a compelling foil in Raven. I’m hopeful they can keep that going.
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Post by Kestrel on Jun 15, 2024 6:09:02 GMT
I thought the first two sets were solid, but not good enough to sell me on the next two, especially with this premise. I was so excited for this range, too! Like relativetime said, the post-Main Range XDAs have all been playing things far too safe, and this seems to still be the case for the 2DAs going forward. Even ignoring the not-insignificant economic factors, if Big Finish wants us to really care about these 2DAs enough to wait a full year in-between releases, they need to be doing massively better.
EDIT: I think I'll probably approach the rest of this range the same way I did the 9DAs -- give the first four sets a listen, and then decide whether or not it's something I want to follow closely or just ignore until/unless I hear about a story that's particularly good.
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Post by mark687 on Jun 25, 2024 19:36:13 GMT
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Post by antartiks on Jul 1, 2024 14:11:56 GMT
It is revealed in the latest vortex issue that there'll soon be two box sets a year for the Second Doctor Adventures. I'll start listening to the range in a few days I think, but I'm glad that BF acknowledged its popularity.
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