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Post by doomlord on Apr 6, 2017 15:53:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 15:58:50 GMT
I took that to mean where they've made a female Thor and Iron Man more than these original character who have sold well. Spider Gwen outsold The Avengers in 2015. No mean feat. His statement was bullshit anyway - he's blaming diversity when he should look at some of the woeful events and series that they've released. DC have wiped with the floor with them creatively for the past few years, the odd book aside. People just want better stories. Now Squirrel Girl ain't outselling The Avengers - but it's holding its own. It's got a big female readership and I hope it continues for years. It's doing something different for a different feel and audience. We could use more of that.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 6, 2017 16:09:09 GMT
I guess this New Warriors is a comedy show then otherwise who is going to take it seriously? You've clearly never read any of her books. Squirrel Girl is not meant to be taken seriously. Saying, as you did above, that she couldn't go against Thanos...well, she's already went up against Galactus, Kraven The Hunter and Doctor Doom so don't be too confident about talking with authority about things you don't know. The beaut of the character is she's had those stories, but they're lighthearted. She's also had adventures with Howard The Duck - she's that kind of character, like Deadpool, who can jump in and out of genres and yet be herself. Like Deadpool, you can have comedy with her...but still have tension. People laughed with and not at Wade Wilson, they'll do the same with Dorene Greene. I never said she couldn't in the comics, but on-screen in the MCU it would look ridiculous. Could you imagine how Squirrel Girl's going to look if New Warriors is treated the same as Iron Man or even Guardians of the Galaxy? It's not going to be very believable, unless New Warriors is a sitcom about superheroes teaming up to save the world.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 6, 2017 16:10:11 GMT
I would have been nine, but I didn't know Doctor Who was a 12 because the BBC don't give age ratings for shows they air. In the three years to you reaching twelve, knowing the series 1 and 2 DVD release dates and their certifications, did you at any point watching DW Series 1, 2 and 3 think "Should I be watching this?" I couldn't think that because there were no certifications given for each episode. If it said '12' and I was not 12 I wouldn't have watched.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 6, 2017 16:11:31 GMT
Rocket Racoon works because he doesn't have powers that look silly on-screen, he has a big space gun. Same with Groot, Groot just has strength from being a tree. Like the Racoon, the squirrels don't have powers either. With this in mind, it would fine to you if Squirrel Girl instructed the squirrels to hold space guns? No, but it would be fine if Squirrel Girl had a more intimidating costume like Iron Man's or Captain America and carried a big space gun instead of her powers being 'I can talk to squirrels'.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 16:12:17 GMT
You've clearly never read any of her books. Squirrel Girl is not meant to be taken seriously. Saying, as you did above, that she couldn't go against Thanos...well, she's already went up against Galactus, Kraven The Hunter and Doctor Doom so don't be too confident about talking with authority about things you don't know. The beaut of the character is she's had those stories, but they're lighthearted. She's also had adventures with Howard The Duck - she's that kind of character, like Deadpool, who can jump in and out of genres and yet be herself. Like Deadpool, you can have comedy with her...but still have tension. People laughed with and not at Wade Wilson, they'll do the same with Dorene Greene. I never said she couldn't in the comics, but on-screen in the MCU it would look ridiculous. Could you imagine how Squirrel Girl's going to look if New Warriors is treated the same as Iron Man or even Guardians of the Galaxy? It's not going to be very believable, unless New Warriors is a sitcom about superheroes teaming up to save the world. Nobody but you has even mentioned her in the MCU. You can have Marvel outside the MCU, you know. Not everything has to be one set tone to fit in with Avengers movies.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 6, 2017 16:21:52 GMT
I never said she couldn't in the comics, but on-screen in the MCU it would look ridiculous. Could you imagine how Squirrel Girl's going to look if New Warriors is treated the same as Iron Man or even Guardians of the Galaxy? It's not going to be very believable, unless New Warriors is a sitcom about superheroes teaming up to save the world. Nobody but you has even mentioned her in the MCU. You can have Marvel outside the MCU, you know. Not everything has to be one set tone to fit in with Avengers movies. I know but the TV Series and films are both MCU. I'm just saying anything starring Squirrel Girl IMO has to be an out-and-out comedy for it to work unless they drastically change her character and superhero costume.
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Post by ollychops on Apr 6, 2017 17:00:40 GMT
Personally, I'm excited to see a live-action Squirrel Girl. Up until recently, I'd only known about her in passing, but I've recently read the New Avengers A.I.M. series (mostly for Hulkling and Wiccan...) and I instantly loved SG, so it'll be cool to see a live-action version of her.
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Post by doomlord on Apr 6, 2017 17:15:45 GMT
I took that to mean where they've made a female Thor and Iron Man more than these original character who have sold well. Spider Gwen outsold The Avengers in 2015. No mean feat. His statement was bullshit anyway - he's blaming diversity when he should look at some of the woeful events and series that they've released. DC have wiped with the floor with them creatively for the past few years, the odd book aside. People just want better stories. Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you and I got what you were getting at in the previous post in regards to original female characters. I was just putting it out there as it was a recent article.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Apr 6, 2017 19:23:00 GMT
No, just Squirrel Girl because the concept is daft and will look very silly on-screen. To you, as ridiculously and very silly as Avengers founder Janet van Dyne as the Wasp and her ability to communicate and control insects? not in the original comics, that was hank and a device he built
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Apr 6, 2017 22:57:51 GMT
I guess this New Warriors is a comedy show then otherwise who is going to take it seriously? You've clearly never read any of her books. Squirrel Girl is not meant to be taken seriously. Saying, as you did above, that she couldn't go against Thanos...well, she's already went up against Galactus, Kraven The Hunter and Doctor Doom so don't be too confident about talking with authority about things you don't know. The beaut of the character is she's had those stories, but they're lighthearted. She's also had adventures with Howard The Duck - she's that kind of character, like Deadpool, who can jump in and out of genres and yet be herself. Like Deadpool, you can have comedy with her...but still have tension. People laughed with and not at Wade Wilson, they'll do the same with Dorene Greene. um, no...I read everything squirrel girl has done pretty much from GLA on I even got a 9.8 of that book and it's funny, but dead pool is in a different league, you'll laugh, then somebody dies, the sales numbers and the t shirts will tell. How many issues is squirrel girl on now? And how many more does she have coming? But Deadpool is up there near spidey and outsells most avengers books consistently. I loved the original new warriors with thrasher, nova, fire star, nita and Vance, and speedball made it funny, but that was cause he was pretty much indestructible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 23:00:13 GMT
I am really excited for another Marvel T.V Show. I think that Marvel is easily winning against DC in both the movies and t.v show department.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Apr 6, 2017 23:05:55 GMT
Rocket Racoon works because he doesn't have powers that look silly on-screen, he has a big space gun. Same with Groot, Groot just has strength from being a tree. Like the Racoon, the squirrels don't have powers either. With this in mind, it would fine to you if Squirrel Girl instructed the squirrels to hold space guns? Difference is rocket was a serious character from the time he was introduced, back in hulk. The comedy came with Groot, and rocket being the only one that understands him. Wolverines attitude in a racoon, is funny. Squirrel girl is cut out to be a babysitter like she is in the comics. Now they can fix her, look at Byrne's run on sensational she hulk. It turned Jen's life around in the comics cause of the humor where she started out far too serious.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Apr 6, 2017 23:08:49 GMT
I took that to mean where they've made a female Thor and Iron Man more than these original character who have sold well. Spider Gwen outsold The Avengers in 2015. No mean feat. His statement was bullshit anyway - he's blaming diversity when he should look at some of the woeful events and series that they've released. DC have wiped with the floor with them creatively for the past few years, the odd book aside. People just want better stories. yep, Marvel turned to gimmicks like the late 90s did while DDC focused on stories. With a few exceptions.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Apr 6, 2017 23:13:02 GMT
You've clearly never read any of her books. Squirrel Girl is not meant to be taken seriously. Saying, as you did above, that she couldn't go against Thanos...well, she's already went up against Galactus, Kraven The Hunter and Doctor Doom so don't be too confident about talking with authority about things you don't know. The beaut of the character is she's had those stories, but they're lighthearted. She's also had adventures with Howard The Duck - she's that kind of character, like Deadpool, who can jump in and out of genres and yet be herself. Like Deadpool, you can have comedy with her...but still have tension. People laughed with and not at Wade Wilson, they'll do the same with Dorene Greene. I never said she couldn't in the comics, but on-screen in the MCU it would look ridiculous. Could you imagine how Squirrel Girl's going to look if New Warriors is treated the same as Iron Man or even Guardians of the Galaxy? It's not going to be very believable, unless New Warriors is a sitcom about superheroes teaming up to save the world. you think GOTG is believable, come on? If you added nova prime or Quasar maybe, but a diminished drax and a wasted Gamora, she could be so much more, I mean, they don't even measure up to the original GOTG
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Apr 6, 2017 23:15:13 GMT
Nobody but you has even mentioned her in the MCU. You can have Marvel outside the MCU, you know. Not everything has to be one set tone to fit in with Avengers movies. I know but the TV Series and films are both MCU. I'm just saying anything starring Squirrel Girl IMO has to be an out-and-out comedy for it to work unless they drastically change her character and superhero costume. hey now, the right actress in that skimpy outfit will be worth watching.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 6, 2017 23:24:26 GMT
I never said she couldn't in the comics, but on-screen in the MCU it would look ridiculous. Could you imagine how Squirrel Girl's going to look if New Warriors is treated the same as Iron Man or even Guardians of the Galaxy? It's not going to be very believable, unless New Warriors is a sitcom about superheroes teaming up to save the world. you think GOTG is believable, come on? If you added nova prime or Quasar maybe, but a diminished drax and a wasted Gamora, she could be so much more, I mean, they don't even measure up to the original GOTG I think Guardians of the Galaxy is by far the best MCU movie ever made.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 6, 2017 23:25:03 GMT
I know but the TV Series and films are both MCU. I'm just saying anything starring Squirrel Girl IMO has to be an out-and-out comedy for it to work unless they drastically change her character and superhero costume. hey now, the right actress in that skimpy outfit will be worth watching. Jenna Coleman maybe.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Apr 6, 2017 23:26:13 GMT
you think GOTG is believable, come on? If you added nova prime or Quasar maybe, but a diminished drax and a wasted Gamora, she could be so much more, I mean, they don't even measure up to the original GOTG I think Guardians of the Galaxy is by far the best MCU movie ever made. it's a great movie, but you said believable, big difference
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 6, 2017 23:29:47 GMT
I think Guardians of the Galaxy is by far the best MCU movie ever made. it's a great movie, but you said believable, big difference I think the 'just roll with it' tone makes it very easy to believe.
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