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Post by mrperson on Jan 6, 2017 19:56:58 GMT
My theory is simple, and I don't know why anyone hasn't mentioned it before. What if we are the most advanced planet in all the universe? You notice that radio signal about what, 3 million light years away, what if they just developed radio, that puts them bout 75 years or more behind us. If we detected a radio signal from 3 million light years away, it doesn't mean that they're 75 years behind us today. It means that 3 million years ago, they were 75 years behind where we are today. Or in other words, they are in fact 2,999,925 years ahead of us today. (Anyway, the consensus is that it is not alien in origin)
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Post by mrperson on Jan 6, 2017 19:59:23 GMT
Since you are convinced, what convinced you? Facts, conspiracy theories or a desire for it to be true? Because it all adds up. The alien invasion films, the secrecy, the myths about Men In Black, what Ronald Reagan said to Steven Spielberg at a White House screening of one of his movies... Films are fiction. Myths are too. "Secrecy" doesn't point any more to aliens than it points to experimental something or others, or facilities (back up nuke command centers, etc), or any sort of thing that for some reason they don't want to be public knowledge. And as for what Spielberg says Reagan said to him, well. ::shrug:: Guy was developing dementia. And if he's to be believed (didn't know about Iran-Contra, etc), he was kept in the dark about the more secretive things the CIA got up to...
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Jan 6, 2017 20:00:51 GMT
My theory is simple, and I don't know why anyone hasn't mentioned it before. What if we are the most advanced planet in all the universe? You notice that radio signal about what, 3 million light years away, what if they just developed radio, that puts them bout 75 years or more behind us. If we detected a radio signal from 3 million light years away, it doesn't mean that they're 75 years behind us today. It means that 3 million years ago, they were 75 years behind where we are today. Or in other words, they are in fact 2,999,925 years ahead of us today. (Anyway, the consensus is that it is not alien in origin) yeah, speed of light, and all that, forgot that stuff. I do have a well thought out theory, but It has nothing to do with alien life, and nothing to do with this forum...dum de dum dum.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jan 6, 2017 20:04:13 GMT
The writer Ben Bova used to talk about his theory of why we've never encountered alien civilizations before and it is because that as any civilization advances to the point where it can communicate with far flung solar systems and launch ships or probes it is also able to create weapons of mass destruction that end up destroying said civilization. Depressing? Yes but looking at the savagery of man, not one I have too much difficulty considering. Or maybe there are civilizations out there that are just as advanced as we are if not more so but they have developed differently and communicate in ways we are not able to understand or perhaps they exist in ways we are unable to detect.
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Post by jasonward on Jan 6, 2017 23:36:13 GMT
Since you are convinced, what convinced you? Facts, conspiracy theories or a desire for it to be true? Because it all adds up. The alien invasion films, the secrecy, the myths about Men In Black, what Ronald Reagan said to Steven Spielberg at a White House screening of one of his movies... Ronald Reagon took decisions based on tea leaf readings and other very bizarre practices, he was also a trained liar and deceiver, even *if* he said what is ascribed to him (I could only find some very dodgy sources) as no further discussion followed how on earth are we to judge the material value of what he said?
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Post by jasonward on Jan 6, 2017 23:42:54 GMT
I have difficulty subscribing to the theory that all advanced forms of life give off signals we can see.
First of all, the first signals we gave off that could be detected were radio waves, but 100 years later we are already exploring the possibility space of options that could render everything we've done mute from now on, and in 100 years time we will have moved on again. The window in which we make these "detectable" transmissions may be small, and even if not small, could transform in ways that we have yet to predict and maybe there are alien life forms blasting us with their radio waves of their present day and we just can't hear them.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2017 9:21:59 GMT
Because it all adds up. The alien invasion films, the secrecy, the myths about Men In Black, what Ronald Reagan said to Steven Spielberg at a White House screening of one of his movies... Films are fiction. Myths are too. "Secrecy" doesn't point any more to aliens than it points to experimental something or others, or facilities (back up nuke command centers, etc), or any sort of thing that for some reason they don't want to be public knowledge. And as for what Spielberg says Reagan said to him, well. ::shrug:: Guy was developing dementia. And if he's to be believed (didn't know about Iran-Contra, etc), he was kept in the dark about the more secretive things the CIA got up to... Myths aren't necessarily fiction. The Men In Black could be secret FBI agents working to keep the contents of Area 51 secret and shut up anyone who finds out what they're hiding.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jan 9, 2017 20:57:33 GMT
Films are fiction. Myths are too. "Secrecy" doesn't point any more to aliens than it points to experimental something or others, or facilities (back up nuke command centers, etc), or any sort of thing that for some reason they don't want to be public knowledge. And as for what Spielberg says Reagan said to him, well. ::shrug:: Guy was developing dementia. And if he's to be believed (didn't know about Iran-Contra, etc), he was kept in the dark about the more secretive things the CIA got up to... Myths aren't necessarily fiction. The Men In Black could be secret FBI agents working to keep the contents of Area 51 secret and shut up anyone who finds out what they're hiding. Myths are fiction that occassionally have a grain of truth. Area 51 just tests experimental aircrafts and other secret but normal stuff like that. Also, I should add, that I am definitely not a normal civilian and am not affilliated with the CIA in any way. If you don't believe me, I have ways of convincing you.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 9, 2017 23:03:45 GMT
Myths aren't necessarily fiction. The Men In Black could be secret FBI agents working to keep the contents of Area 51 secret and shut up anyone who finds out what they're hiding. Area 51 just tests experimental aircrafts and other secret but normal stuff like that. I think there's too much secrecy for it to be something as simple as that.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jan 10, 2017 4:49:39 GMT
Area 51 just tests experimental aircrafts and other secret but normal stuff like that. I think there's too much secrecy for it to be something as simple as that. Stuff can be secret without being extraordinary.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 10, 2017 9:12:11 GMT
I think there's too much secrecy for it to be something as simple as that. Stuff can be secret without being extraordinary. True, but the amount of secrecy surrounding Area 51 is massive.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jan 10, 2017 9:51:51 GMT
Stuff can be secret without being extraordinary. True, but the amount of secrecy surrounding Area 51 is massive. Makes you wonder how we become so technologically advanced over the last 30 yrs doesn't it.
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Post by jasonward on Jan 10, 2017 10:11:35 GMT
Area 51 just tests experimental aircrafts and other secret but normal stuff like that. I think there's too much secrecy for it to be something as simple as that. Too much secrecy? Governments keeps all sorts of secrets, often time without any actual need, MI6 and its fore runners existed from 1909 and were paid for from public funds but were not officially acknowledged, or shown in accounts etc until 1995. MI6 is the UK's equivalent of the US's FBI, why on earth was there any need at all to keep it secret? But secret it was. Governments keeping secrets is not a sign of alien conspiracy.
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Post by jasonward on Jan 10, 2017 10:13:28 GMT
True, but the amount of secrecy surrounding Area 51 is massive. Makes you wonder how we become so technologically advanced over the last 30 yrs doesn't it. No, not at all, there are extremely few examples of a technology making an impact that doesn't clear pre-cursor tech and/or research papers going back many years.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 10, 2017 10:16:48 GMT
True, but the amount of secrecy surrounding Area 51 is massive. Makes you wonder how we become so technologically advanced over the last 30 yrs doesn't it. Exactly, I wouldn't be surprised if things like iPads and the upcoming Nintendo Switch are made from alien technology.
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Post by jasonward on Jan 10, 2017 10:19:57 GMT
Makes you wonder how we become so technologically advanced over the last 30 yrs doesn't it. Exactly, I wouldn't be surprised if things like iPads and the upcoming Nintendo Switch are made from alien technology. What part of iPads and Nintendo Switch have appeared out of nowhere with no prior history and development here on earth?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 10, 2017 10:24:17 GMT
Exactly, I wouldn't be surprised if things like iPads and the upcoming Nintendo Switch are made from alien technology. What part of iPads and Nintendo Switch have appeared out of nowhere with no prior history and development here on earth? Everything about them is weird.
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Post by jasonward on Jan 10, 2017 10:29:52 GMT
What part of iPads and Nintendo Switch have appeared out of nowhere with no prior history and development here on earth? Everything about them is weird. lol, just because you find them weird it isn't evidence of alien technology. If your going to claim these as belonging to some alien conspiracy you need to offer something concrete and not just your own feelings on the matter.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 10, 2017 11:59:00 GMT
What part of iPads and Nintendo Switch have appeared out of nowhere with no prior history and development here on earth? Everything about them is weird. Part of it is because of Moore's Law: www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mooreslaw.aspand how we were able to use the increased computing power to work faster and develop things much more quickly than previously. I remember using some basic touchscreen tech in the mid-90s - one of the offices of the government department I worked for used thumbprint identification - and it was gee-whiz stuff back then. As an example of how our computing power has increased, in 1985 my brother had an Amiga 500. He was feeling pretty chuffed because he'd put 1 mb of RAM in it as opposed to the more usual 256 or 512 kb. In 2000 my classroom computer had 64 mb of RAM. My laptop computer that I bought in 2013 that I'm typing this on is driving 4 gb of RAM. That's a doubling of RAM roughly every 18 months/ 2 years. Processors have followed a similar path (I am not an IT person, I just use computers nearly every day, so I may be wrong here) and developed similarly, if not at a more advanced rate.
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Post by jasonward on Jan 10, 2017 13:00:57 GMT
The first academic works on Touch Screen technology were published in 1965, engineers at CERN developed a working Touch Screen and was being manufactured and used by 1973.
They were common enough by 1990 that I used one at my work. They were not as accurate as today's models, but it's easy to see the development of touch screen from the first academic papers, through work at CERN, then various patents as the technology developed, stylus's overcame some of the issues with touch screen until they became accurate enough that fingers could be used for accurate work.
There is nothing weird or mysterious about touch screen.
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