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Post by fingersmash on Sept 15, 2017 13:31:57 GMT
Do we know which of the 4 stories the Master is in? Given that he is on the cover of Volume 1 and The Great White Hurricane is highly likely to be a pure historical (and there are two spread across both box sets as stated in the news article), I would assume that he will be appearing in The Destination Wars, the first story in the first volume The Great White Hurricane refers to the Great Blizzard of 1888, which hit New England and parts of Canada, so I'm gonna second the guess that The Destination Wars is our Master story.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 15, 2017 13:35:46 GMT
Elliot Chapman Tweeted he'd love to work with Bradley but IS wondering if the Xmas special TV duo would get it, or there could be a story where they're each others doubles!
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Post by acousticwolf on Sept 15, 2017 13:39:14 GMT
A quick (and probably very stupid) question for our erstwhile First Doctor writers. Do/did you write these as First Doctor stories, or as First Doctor as played by David Bradley portraying William Hartnell (as Adventures in Time and Space was)? Not sure if that even makes sense lol.
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Post by number13 on Sept 15, 2017 13:44:50 GMT
If anyone is picking up strange interference on their audios this afternoon, it's probably the sound of my teeth grinding slightly. I've no problem at all with recasting the First Doctor - how could I have, when I applaud Tim Treloar's brilliant performances recreating Jon Pertwee's Doctor, 'my' Doctor (and want and expect TWO 3DA sets per year now, minimum! ) But immediately and instinctively I didn't (and don't) like the idea of the Total Recast. Even if William Russell has effectively retired from BF (and if so, thank you sir for all the great performances) it seems hard on Carole Ann Ford - unless perhaps she preferred not to play Susan, as the only one of the Originals remaining in the cast? It would be fascinating to know the views of the original actors on this. However I have another point of view... I've read the news story carefully (three times) and rationally I can't find anything to disagree with. Every successful long-running play or musical changes the cast. And rather than simply being a re-cast, this is the complete, already established 'Adventures' cast transferring to audio for their own new stories, which does make a certain sense. In short, can I resist authentically styled full cast First Doctor stories by Matt Fitton, Guy Adams, John Dorney and Andrew Smith? Including 50% historicals as any First Doctor season should have? No, of course I can't. Hence the ever-so-slight sound of grinding teeth. And of a credit card being warmed up for action. (Although not just yet because I hit my 'BF-limit' for the month with those two rather good sales, an EA sub and New Benny 4!)
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Post by jasonward on Sept 15, 2017 13:53:59 GMT
This is cool and all, indeed I like it, but I'm left scratching my head as to why it as such "big news"... it just seems like more of the same to me, in a good way, but still more of the same. Have I missed something?
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Post by mark687 on Sept 15, 2017 14:01:32 GMT
This is cool and all, indeed I like it, but I'm left scratching my head as to why it as such "big news"... it just seems like more of the same to me, in a good way, but still more of the same. Have I missed something? I suppose in a way (even though he's in the TV Xmas EP) this legitimizes Bradley as a recast and a new debut and Actor for the Master both fairly big steps for BF perhaps?
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Sept 15, 2017 14:04:49 GMT
I'm sure Big Finish wouldn't have gone ahead with this without speaking to William Russell and Carole Ann Ford about it first and I'm sure they were happy to give it their blessing. As people have said, William Russell may be looking to step away from the role due to his age and Carole Ann Ford has only been in something like 4 stories since her last CC in 2013 before the CCs became Volumes, with her fifth story since then coming out next month. I reckon this is a good way to get that team back in the spotlight a bit as they've taken a backseat in favour of other First Doctor teams in recent years.
My only real issue with this is the cover as it's disconcerting to see them there instead of the usual faces for those characters and it makes it look almost like an Unbound production, however I'll get used to it eventually.
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Post by guyadams on Sept 15, 2017 14:05:48 GMT
A quick (and probably very stupid) question for our erstwhile First Doctor writers. Do/did you write these as First Doctor stories, or as First Doctor as played by David Bradley portraying William Hartnell (as Adventures in Time and Space was)? Not sure if that even makes sense lol. Cheers Tony I wrote a First Doctor story. The whole idea of these was to recreate that area as fully as possible but with the Adventures cast playing the roles. I didn't write FOR any of them, I wrote the characters (and yes, I know that the characters onscreen are a mixture of script and performance but you know what I mean, hopefully!)
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Post by acousticwolf on Sept 15, 2017 14:14:18 GMT
A quick (and probably very stupid) question for our erstwhile First Doctor writers. Do/did you write these as First Doctor stories, or as First Doctor as played by David Bradley portraying William Hartnell (as Adventures in Time and Space was)? Not sure if that even makes sense lol. Cheers Tony I wrote a First Doctor story. The whole idea of these was to recreate that area as fully as possible but with the Adventures cast playing the roles. I didn't write FOR any of them, I wrote the characters (and yes, I know that the characters onscreen are a mixture of script and performance but you know what I mean, hopefully!) That's almost as confusing as my question, thanks . No, I do get it (I think), thanks for answering - these things always interest me and it's great to get an answer from the horses mouth (so to speak). Cheers Tony
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Post by barnabaslives on Sept 15, 2017 14:21:30 GMT
This does seem to me to make a lot of sense for Big Finish to try. David Bradley has added an impressive bit of seniority to his resume with one very eventful Holiday special, on top of having played not only the First Doctor before, but also William Hartnell. I guess it does seem like a lot of recasting to adjust to at once, but then again I didn't really have that much trouble adjusting to them all in the course of An Adventure in Space and Time, I rather liked Jemma's latest Big Finish performance as Barbara, and I think I can kind of the see the point of 1st Doctor Adventures featuring the main cast from AAISAT together. So what does this mean for Carol Ann Ford? It seems as if they are still using Peter Purves and Maureen O'Brien in the Early Adventures range, but does this now mean we will no longer get the real Susan, even though she's very much alive and, I believe, willing to work with BF? I certainly hope things aren't up in the air as to whether we will hear more from the original Susan, but as long as any available original performers still get first chance at their respective roles in Companion Chronicles, Early Adventures, and Short Trips, I don't suppose I can object much, and I think I can safely assume that Big Finish has enough fondness for those performers to not exclude them?
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Post by relativetime on Sept 15, 2017 14:29:17 GMT
And, pre-ordered!
I'm a little sad to see William Russell and Carole Ann Ford won't be in these sets, but I'm fine with the cast from An Adventure in Space and Time filling their shoes. I sort of see them as Bradley's companions rather than merely the First Doctor's, if that makes any sense.
Personally, Big Finish is what made me a fan of the First Doctor and where I truly connected with his companions and adventures. It's made me realize what I'd been blind to before in the television episodes and made watching them a whole new experience for me. In short, Big Finish has given more care and thought to the First Doctor stories they produce than almost any other, I'd argue. I trust them without any hesitation to do the same for these two boxsets.
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Post by mrperson on Sept 15, 2017 14:33:53 GMT
I'm hoping this is simply because they wanted the full "Adventures" cast together, and not because Russell/Ford are done entirely.
___ Edits: And if they are not done, I hope this was done with their blessing, and is not some form of forced retirement. Other than that, I gave other recasts a chance so I cannot very well complain as a matter of principle.
I, too, hope they do not recast Hurt as the War Doctor.
Anyway, what's the fuss? Consider it an unbound if you must...
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Post by Ian McArdell on Sept 15, 2017 14:39:24 GMT
Gosh, recasting really does stir the passions, doesn't it! Personally, after 'An adventure in Space and Time', I had assumed it was only a matter of time before this team was welcomed into the fold in some form. Jemma's already playing Barbara and the other two have had other BF roles, but for me it makes more sense to me to produce a range with a whole alternate team than to pursue a mix and match approach.
In terms of Susan and Ian, I am sure that BF will have done this with sensitivity (they're professionals with 20-odd years of experience in producing audio drama and uniquely attuned to the preferences of the Doctor Who audience) and I hope to continue hearing from Carole Ann Ford and William Russell as long as they are willing and able to play their roles - I am sure there is room for both!
Is it January yet?
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Post by dorney on Sept 15, 2017 14:41:35 GMT
A quick (and probably very stupid) question for our erstwhile First Doctor writers. Do/did you write these as First Doctor stories, or as First Doctor as played by David Bradley portraying William Hartnell (as Adventures in Time and Space was)? Not sure if that even makes sense lol. Cheers Tony I wrote a First Doctor story. The whole idea of these was to recreate that area as fully as possible but with the Adventures cast playing the roles. I didn't write FOR any of them, I wrote the characters (and yes, I know that the characters onscreen are a mixture of script and performance but you know what I mean, hopefully!) Basically the same for me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 14:54:53 GMT
I'm a good example for BF tapping the New series fans. I had zero TV background for doctors 4-8, got introduced to them thru BF. And now here I am Nice and straightforward. Mine was a lot more like a game of ping-pong. Found out about Doctor Who through a rerun of The Daleks, made an effort to watch the show when it was revived a couple years later, got a Ninth Doctor annual that mentioned "the Etra Prime incident" and Dalek invasion of Gallifrey, linked to TARDIS wikia and through that found Big Finish. What a marvellous thing the internet is. I discovered doctor who as late as last year . Ten was my first doctor and then i watched the rest of them . BF came along around the same time for me
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Post by muckypup on Sept 15, 2017 15:04:25 GMT
Why do this? Were getting the Early Adventures that feature most of the original actors playing there roles so why do a complete recast of Ian & Susan when those actor's still perform there roles in Big Finish audios? This sounds a bit of a cash cow to me & one box set to many & will actually be one Doctor Who range i shall not be purchasing. Not a cash cow, it's BF looking after an era that is probably not going to be done any longer, I suspect that the absence of Willian Russell for a while means that he is probably unwilling or unable to continue. peter purvis looks happy to continue with the doctors b team and onwards they have a ready made legit cast, albeit from a docudrama, why not use it. i much prefer the idea of a recast than passing on an era, yes it's different but I am more than happy to go with it. not that thrilled about Dreyfus as the masters 1st incarnation but an easy buy for me, really looking forward to this.
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Post by muckypup on Sept 15, 2017 15:07:42 GMT
Why do this? Were getting the Early Adventures that feature most of the original actors playing there roles so why do a complete recast of Ian & Susan when those actor's still perform there roles in Big Finish audios? This sounds a bit of a cash cow to me & one box set to many & will actually be one Doctor Who range i shall not be purchasing. Its been heavily implied recently that Age is starting to affect William Russell so Glover's probably a more practical option , not sure why they're not including Carol Ann Ford.
I have asked what this means for the EAs.
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Because carol ann ford no longer sounds like a teenager......
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Post by ljwilson on Sept 15, 2017 15:08:02 GMT
This sounds absolutely brilliant - full cast adventures in black and white!
For those who have an issue with recasting, why? The 3rd doctor range is right up there with the best of BF's output.
And this will sit happily alongside the Early Adventures, not usurp it.
This is going to be ace.
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Post by Jeedai on Sept 15, 2017 15:34:13 GMT
As someone who can only keep up with so many Doctors, I'd say I'm more likely to try this out than start a deep dive on a whole other series of existing audios with Russell and Purvis.
I wonder if this means if other New Series characters who team up with Doctors (River Song, Churchill...) will be crossing over with Bradley's doctor rather than Purvis'.
As for Carole Ann Ford, I wouldn't mind listening to this series' Young Susan have a "The Two Susans" encounter with her older self some day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 15:56:08 GMT
I'm somewhat underwhelmed that this is today’s big announcement, was hoping that Big Finish’s news would be a new non-Doctor Who related range. Are Big Finish producing too much DW? I find it difficult to keep pace. but no, definitely not too much 😀
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