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Post by mbt66 on Jun 21, 2023 16:49:31 GMT
I am enjoying the series so far, but I have a couple of questions I wondered what others think.
Q1: Who do you think is the source Doctor?
Q2: How do you picture each Doctor?
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Post by mbt66 on Jun 21, 2023 16:49:59 GMT
Regarding Q1:
By source Doctor I mean the Doctor in the Time War who was hit with the degeneration weapon.
My first thought was the War Doctor, but listening to the first two stories I am struck by the fact we haven’t heard from Paul McGann and him being in the Time War would make sense. Or is that what they want us to think!
We know that the Christopher Eccleston will be appearing, which seems contrary for a degeneration weapon to cause the Eighth Doctor to degenerate into the Ninth.
So could a New Series Doctor be the source Doctor?
Again we know that the Tenth Doctor will appear in this celebration. Big Finish have already sent him back to before the Time War and the TV 50th anniversary sent him into the Time War, so would Big Finish do the same with him for the 60th as well!?
And then there is the Coda episode to consider.
I feel confident that come the end of the seventh episode the Doctor will be cured and the story will be complete…apart from how it all began.
So could we get the Eleventh? The Twelfth? Or, who I think is most likely, the Thirteenth?!
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Post by mbt66 on Jun 21, 2023 16:50:40 GMT
Regarding Q2:
The standard edition cover and the special edition poster show the main Doctor from each story in his era specific outfit.
But that could just be to hide the source Doctor’s identity or does the Doctor’s clothing degenerate along with the voice and body of each Doctor?
Personally I am picturing all the Doctors in the same neutral Doctor style outfit, something the Eleventh or Twelfth Doctor might have worn.
The problem is, if my suspicion about the Thirteenth proves right I might have a shock in store when I listen again!
However I think Sarah Jane or Jenny might have made mention of the Doctor wearing a rainbow top!
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Post by mark687 on Jun 21, 2023 21:26:27 GMT
I am enjoying the series so far, but I have a couple of questions I wondered what others think. Q1: Who do you think is the source Doctor? Q2: How do you picture each Doctor? Late 8/Early War I don't think it any later then Late 10 at a push based on "5's" interactions with Jenny Whatever they look like on the Cover Regards mark687
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Post by thegreendeath on Jun 21, 2023 21:57:30 GMT
1) I’d always just assumed it was McGann, but now you have me curious it might not be!
2) Since the degeneration seems to be mainly a narrative hook on which to hang a goofy and fun anniversary series, I see them in their original costumes, because it’s more JNT that way. And whatever sins JNT might have done, I thought the Five Doctors was really the perfect sort of anniversary gift box.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Jun 21, 2023 22:40:41 GMT
The trailer for the first story showed 8’s TARDIS interior, and the sound effects also matched 8’s interior at the start of the story (before changing to match the current regeneration)
Also the Doctor doesn’t recognise any of the New Who characters.
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Post by jamesbrennecke on Jun 22, 2023 10:58:31 GMT
I've been imagining them in the 8th Doctor's outfit with a few of each incarnation's accessories. I even did a couple of quick edits of the characters in those looks;
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Post by mark687 on Jun 22, 2023 11:01:46 GMT
I've been imagining them in the 8th Doctor's outfit with a few of each incarnation's accessories. I even did a couple of quick edits of the characters in those looks; Nice Work Regards mark687
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Post by mbt66 on Jun 22, 2023 21:09:15 GMT
The trailer for the first story showed 8’s TARDIS interior, and the sound effects also matched 8’s interior at the start of the story (before changing to match the current regeneration) Also the Doctor doesn’t recognise any of the New Who characters. I have just gone back and rewatched the trailer and yes that is certainly the Eighth Doctor’s Tardis, but I still feel there will be a twist. Especially as the Ninth and Tenth Doctors will be appearing…perhaps the Doctor will reverse the effects of the weapon, but reverses it too far! Time will answer all.
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Post by mbt66 on Jun 22, 2023 21:21:53 GMT
I've been imagining them in the 8th Doctor's outfit with a few of each incarnation's accessories. I even did a couple of quick edits of the characters in those looks; Thanks for sharing these and please share the others as we progress through the story. I am glad I am not alone picturing the different Doctor’s in the same outfit. However, I love your idea of adding the adaptions each Doctor brings to the costume…I wish Big Finish had incorporated this into their covers. It would have set the artwork to these stories apart from the norm.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 30, 2023 16:03:59 GMT
Interesting theory I found online, though I'm not sure it stands up. The idea is that the reason so many new series figures are appearing is because the current Doctor is actually the tenth Doctor, stuck in the Time War following his adventure with the War Master (or perhaps one of his other visits to the impossible-to-get-to-because-Time-Locked era)
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Post by Kestrel on Jul 1, 2023 5:03:40 GMT
Haven't started on OAF yet (and don't intend to until it's all out) but I do think that second question is pretty interesting to apply broadly, across all of the audio dramas. Because personally? I pretty much never picture the Doctors as looking like the images on the covers. Not the outfits, not the Doctors. Part of that, I think, comes from my exposure to Classic Who being a bit... unique, maybe? I didn't watch it on TV as a kid, I streamed it to my PC as an adult, in college, usually while I working on homework or some other project on the other side of the screen. So even for the TV episodes I was listening to them more than I was watching, typically only turning my head to watch the more important/impactful moments. So I don't have a strong association between the various Doctors and their outfits, which means when I imagine them, I tend to see them in the much more subdued, neutral fashions of New Who. So: Personally I am picturing all the Doctors in the same neutral Doctor style outfit, something the Eleventh or Twelfth Doctor might have worn. Yeah, basically that. Capaldi's wardrobe, much like his TARDIS, was pretty much pitch-perfect for me. So that's the model for most of my imagination. The platonic ideal of Doctorliness. And also the TV movie, where the TARDIS (and the Doctor's spiffy new look) left an incredibly outsized impression in my mind. And for the actors themselves, because they all sound noticeably older, I age them up in my mind, too. Not to the same as age they are IRL, just a decade or two. Makes 'em more, ya' know, pardon the cliche, distinguished.
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Post by mbt66 on Jul 3, 2023 17:16:15 GMT
Q3: Do you think these releases would have felt more distinctive if the Doctor changed during the adventure?
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Post by mbt66 on Jul 16, 2023 15:16:27 GMT
Regarding Q3:
It seems strange to me that the Doctor doesn’t change part way through a story. At the beginning of each release, we hear him changing quite rapidly, but once the story starts; he stops changing.
Personally, I think it would have made these releases more unique if the Doctor changed during the story and would have provided some interesting plot alterations and character interactions.
For example: Have Sarah encounter the Third Doctor part way through. Jenny seeing the Sixth Doctor interacting with the Curator and suddenly realising there is a link between the two.
Also it would allow for some great audio extras with different Doctor’s appearing in pivotal scenes.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jul 16, 2023 15:51:44 GMT
Yes, but it might have made it more complicated to put together. Also, the episodes aren't very long and it'd risk wasting time with explanations.
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Post by martinw8686 on Jul 16, 2023 17:04:58 GMT
Q4. With Doctors 4-6 starring in episodes 1-4, who do we think will lead episodes 5-8?
I feel fairly sure Doctors 1 and 2 will continue as brief cameos, with 3 perhaps having a chance of appearing as a lead.
I'm also confident the Coda episode is Tennant, with the year delay being down to a clash with the tv specials.
So it would seem the 3 remaining episodes will likely have 8 leading an episode and 9 leading an episode with the 7th episode perhaps seeing multiple Doctors leading towards 10 as the pre degeneration Doctor.
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Post by nardole on Jul 16, 2023 17:26:51 GMT
Do you think we'll see jonathan carley or Jacob dudman
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 16, 2023 17:44:26 GMT
Yes, but it might have made it more complicated to put together. Also, the episodes aren't very long and it'd risk wasting time with explanations. If it was too complicated to put together, then I’d like to think they wouldn’t have pursued it in the first place. It’s being used as a device to get the various Doctors in at the beginning of the episode and then conveniently being overlooked for the duration. Just feels a bit of a pointless exercise two stories in, especially when the premise of the range hinges on it; Dimensions in Time did it better.
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Post by martinw8686 on Jul 16, 2023 21:40:37 GMT
Do you think we'll see jonathan carley or Jacob dudman I'd love to see them. I've got a feeling the degenerating Doctor is Ten, somehow in the Timewar due to one of his earlier Big Finish timetravel shenanigans, which Coda will explain. That idea could work equally well with 11 though. 9 being involved as one of the degenerative Doctors only makes sense if the afflicted Doctor is Ten or higher. Otherwise 9 must be a guest charecter like the Curator?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 16:21:27 GMT
Yes, but it might have made it more complicated to put together. Also, the episodes aren't very long and it'd risk wasting time with explanations. If it was too complicated to put together, then I’d like to think they wouldn’t have pursued it in the first place. It’s being used as a device to get the various Doctors in at the beginning of the episode and then conveniently being overlooked for the duration. Just feels a bit of a pointless exercise two stories in, especially when the premise of the range hinges on it; Dimensions in Time did it better. Yes and, worse, it just feels like the actors so far are just playing their incarnation. Part of the novelty as I perceived it was that they would be a later Doctor but in an old body. But if you trim some tiny exposition parts we've just got two stories that are not even good particularly good BF never mind worthy of an entire range for the anniversary. When it was announced we all wondered why the last one was so much later than the main releases if it was one big story. It will need to really do a volte face to convince me it IS a big story if it doesn't pick up soon. And given another month of "hey, it's a crossover, you love that stuff!" with more to come that we know from certain actors talking at cons that they're doing crossovers too...it just feels like the kind of - and I used to hate this term - fanjodrell people who judge BF before listening assume it always is. If they joined in the last few years? I wouldn't blame them for thinking just that! Baffles me this is the same company who were SO restrained at multi-Doc stories for years and years. But..hey. I guess the crossovers and gimmicks - another term I used to avoid that ABSOLUTELY fits now - look better for a DWM advert than just "It's the Doctor you didn't love on TV in the 80s with companions you don't know...but it's good, honest!". Gimmicks sell. They steal the show - but it's petty theft, as very soon you've done it all and have to, this sounds like a joke, I can't believe it's real - try and flog "River and Jackie Vs. Krotons".
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