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Post by anothermanicmondas on Nov 2, 2019 21:04:56 GMT
Quote of the week "Fish stole your money" (or something like that - I've mislaid my notes) other listening last week included the BBC's Lost Episodes: Marco Polo Bernice Summerfield: The Squire's Crystal chapters 11-15 (16 and 17 tomorrow) Ravenous: Planet of Dust, Rose Tyler:Flood and for Halloween: Feast of Fear and the Paternostergang:The Screaming Ceiling
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Post by polly on Nov 2, 2019 21:11:30 GMT
Hmm. I am one of the weird people who like this. I like it more than the next few stories that follow. For one, Charley is not drugged or tortured which became a common theme. Joke aside, yes, it is very atmospheric. I also kind of enjoyed the world building and learning about the aftermath of the Cyber war. Plus, I absolutely adore the scene on the alien market. I wish we had more scenes like that. I already like markets in real life, and alien markets in sci-fi just fascinate me. And yes, it is a totally standard story, but sometimes that is exactly what you crave. I can understand why this is so popular. You know, that's a good point about standard Who being what you want sometimes. And I myself said the same thing about Phantasmagoria, more or less. I'm not sure why I liked that one well enough but Sword of Orion seemed so bland. Maybe it was my mood, I don't know. Agree on the marketplace scene, that's a very strong opening.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 21:21:59 GMT
Giving Big Finish’s adaptation of ‘The Wizard of Oz’ a listen. Even though I do understand why they did it, it feels so strange hearing the citizens of Oz have British accents. Taking that into consideration, I must admit I do enjoy the Scarecrow who seems to have originated from the West Country and Jago who seems to have transformed into a lion. But the rest just seems off.
If you want a different take on the Wizard of Oz series though, I would highly recommend Crossover Adventure Productions reimagining of the series.
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Post by fingersmash on Nov 2, 2019 23:12:23 GMT
Giving Big Finish’s adaptation of ‘The Wizard of Oz’ a listen. Even though I do understand why they did it, it feels so strange hearing the citizens of Oz have British accents. Taking that into consideration, I must admit I do enjoy the Scarecrow who seems to have originated from the West Country and Jago who seems to have transformed into a lion. But the rest just seems off. If you want a different take on the Wizard of Oz series though, I would highly recommend Crossover Adventure Productions reimagining of the series. I will gladly gobble up any Land of Oz material I can get so yeah these are being downloaded right now. Frankly though: I think Big Finish's Wizard of Oz was maybe 70% of the way there. If you added a third hour and the story expansion in the right places to justify it, it could have really been something special. It was a very Judy Garland take (to the point where I'm about 78% sure Marc Platt watched the movie and read the book's wikipedia summary) and I'd love to see an adaptation take some things from the further books from Baum as foreshadowing and even Ruth Plumly Thompson's books.
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Post by barnabaslives on Nov 3, 2019 2:24:51 GMT
Gave another listen to Worlds of Big Finish. Don't know why the final chapter seemed so subdued this time around, maybe it's because I didn't get to hear it yesterday when I was on a roll listening to the set, but generally I really enjoyed it and it's a wonderful way to touch base with a number of different ranges that I probably don't listen to often enough.
I keep getting in the mindset of not wanting to listen to Dorian unless I can have a marathon, for example, and of course a marathon is much harder to schedule. Especially nice to hear a Holmes story because I still haven't even managed my first marathon with that range.
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Post by barnabaslives on Nov 3, 2019 2:30:26 GMT
Frankly though: I think Big Finish's Wizard of Oz was maybe 70% of the way there. If you added a third hour and the story expansion in the right places to justify it, it could have really been something special. It was a very Judy Garland take (to the point where I'm about 78% sure Marc Platt watched the movie and read the book's wikipedia summary) and I'd love to see an adaptation take some things from the further books from Baum as foreshadowing and even Ruth Plumly Thompson's books. I was hoping this would take off for them and they'd get to start exploring Baum's series of books because I never have got around to reading them, so I bought it when it came out. Then I got behind on listening and it's been on the list of things I'm "saving for a rainy day" ever since. I still think it will be worth the price of admission just for Hopley, King and Starkey though.
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Post by fingersmash on Nov 3, 2019 3:35:38 GMT
Frankly though: I think Big Finish's Wizard of Oz was maybe 70% of the way there. If you added a third hour and the story expansion in the right places to justify it, it could have really been something special. It was a very Judy Garland take (to the point where I'm about 78% sure Marc Platt watched the movie and read the book's wikipedia summary) and I'd love to see an adaptation take some things from the further books from Baum as foreshadowing and even Ruth Plumly Thompson's books. I was hoping this would take off for them and they'd get to start exploring Baum's series of books because I never have got around to reading them, so I bought it when it came out. Then I got behind on listening and it's been on the list of things I'm "saving for a rainy day" ever since. I still think it will be worth the price of admission just for Hopley, King and Starkey though. There's something about it that feels like it was meant to be a pilot for an Oz range. Sadly it just missed the mark it needed to hit. Like i said, it feels more like a retread of the Judy Garland movie forced into an adaptation of the book.
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Post by ljwilson on Nov 3, 2019 9:21:31 GMT
The Sword of Orion
Hm. Well, that's a bit of a speedbump. I had actually been looking forward to this, but having heard it again I don't rate it very highly. Big Finish's website claims this is one of their best sellers and frankly I'm not entirely sure why. This is a bland, stereotypical tale which alludes to some intriguing things like this mysterious android war, but doesn't do anything with it and instead trades on famous monsters doing the same things we've seen before. Even the cast lacks the spark Storm Warning had, and that includes Eight and Charley. It's atmospheric, though, I'll give it that. Cybermen in a darkened derelict evokes Earthshock imagery rather favorably. I just wish what happened out there in the dark was actually interesting in some way. This is a good example of the not-so-good Nick scripts: rehashed nostalgia. Not terrible, just ehh. I'm a big Sword of Orion fan. I think the general atmosphere is superb, I rate the supporting cast, and don't get me started on Captain Jansen! It just shows how we all differ, because I think Storm Warning starts really well and goes downhill once they find the daft sounding alien in the cabin.
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Post by tuigirl on Nov 3, 2019 9:24:50 GMT
The Sword of Orion
Hm. Well, that's a bit of a speedbump. I had actually been looking forward to this, but having heard it again I don't rate it very highly. Big Finish's website claims this is one of their best sellers and frankly I'm not entirely sure why. This is a bland, stereotypical tale which alludes to some intriguing things like this mysterious android war, but doesn't do anything with it and instead trades on famous monsters doing the same things we've seen before. Even the cast lacks the spark Storm Warning had, and that includes Eight and Charley. It's atmospheric, though, I'll give it that. Cybermen in a darkened derelict evokes Earthshock imagery rather favorably. I just wish what happened out there in the dark was actually interesting in some way. This is a good example of the not-so-good Nick scripts: rehashed nostalgia. Not terrible, just ehh. I'm a big Sword of Orion fan. I think the general atmosphere is superb, I rate the supporting cast, and don't get me started on Captain Jansen! It just shows how we all differ, because I think Storm Warning starts really well and goes downhill once they find the daft sounding alien in the cabin. Funny. That was exactly what I thought of Storm Warning when I first heard it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 9:39:28 GMT
Gave another listen to Worlds of Big Finish. Don't know why the final chapter seemed so subdued this time around, maybe it's because I didn't get to hear it yesterday when I was on a roll listening to the set, but generally I really enjoyed it and it's a wonderful way to touch base with a number of different ranges that I probably don't listen to often enough. I keep getting in the mindset of not wanting to listen to Dorian unless I can have a marathon, for example, and of course a marathon is much harder to schedule. Especially nice to hear a Holmes story because I still haven't even managed my first marathon with that range. I have been tempted to buy it only because i believe Vienna and Bennie are in a story together and would like to know how that played out but have avoided spoilers
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 9:41:55 GMT
I'm a big Sword of Orion fan. I think the general atmosphere is superb, I rate the supporting cast, and don't get me started on Captain Jansen! It just shows how we all differ, because I think Storm Warning starts really well and goes downhill once they find the daft sounding alien in the cabin. Funny. That was exactly what I thought of Storm Warning when I first heard it. I like both stories. They are adventures they are atmospheric and a good jump on point to the eighth Doctor i dont require massively complex or wow factors or squeee factors to enjoy a tale sometimes just losing myself in a tale is enough...set the story up correctly and i jump aboard. These two stories work equally as well as Blood Of the Daleks did for Lucie
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Post by slithe on Nov 3, 2019 11:51:35 GMT
Funny. That was exactly what I thought of Storm Warning when I first heard it. I like both stories. They are adventures they are atmospheric and a good jump on point to the eighth Doctor i dont require massively complex or wow factors or squeee factors to enjoy a tale sometimes just losing myself in a tale is enough...set the story up correctly and i jump aboard. These two stories work equally as well as Blood Of the Daleks did for Lucie I agree... I thought Sword of Orion started well and was atmospheric. Loved the scenes in the market as well in the first (? - been a while since I heard it) episode and the 'in-gag' about the use of Cyberheads as hatstands (the same gag used in Dalek in 2005). The dark, brooding atmosphere of space comes across well and the idea of Cybermen waiting is quite good. The idea of the converted people being caught in the power failure is quite horrific and captures a body horror element that was rarely seen on screen. Sadly, I thought it went down hill a bit towards the end and became rather m'eh than anything special. I always give a bit of leeway for that first McGann season - it was the first 'new' Who for years and the series was finding its feet. The only exception being Minuet in Hell - ended up with a headache after that one.
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Post by slithe on Nov 3, 2019 11:54:15 GMT
Just finished Signs and Wonders.
Thought this starts off well and then descended into a bit of a mess. It isn't as bad as it has been made out to be - yep McCoy suffers from 'shoutyness' and Aldred is a bit 'too stereotypical' as Ace in places, but it isn't awful. The idea of 'false Gods and prophets' is an interesting and relevant idea at the moment.
I also liked the idea of Hex not wanting to go back with the Doctor again as he wants a 'normal' and 'safe life'. Shows that travelling with the Doctor is not always fun. Would be good to see the more darker themes at the end picked up - the use of Puccini and the Doctor's 'death' are referenced here and the sense that things are 'coming to an end' with this incarnation could be an interesting approach to develop in the future releases.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 3, 2019 12:09:52 GMT
RAN Weekend
Yesterday
DW EA
The Doctor's Tale
DW MRs
The House of Blue Fire
The Architects of History
The Sandman
Today (so far)
DW MR
Three's a Crowd
8DA
Sisters of the Flame / Vengeance of Morbius
(Great Season Finale)
CC Ferril's Folly
(Underrated IMO)
4D4s
Trail of the White Worm/ The Oseidon Adventure Regards
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Post by tuigirl on Nov 3, 2019 13:15:53 GMT
I like both stories. They are adventures they are atmospheric and a good jump on point to the eighth Doctor i dont require massively complex or wow factors or squeee factors to enjoy a tale sometimes just losing myself in a tale is enough...set the story up correctly and i jump aboard. These two stories work equally as well as Blood Of the Daleks did for Lucie I agree... I thought Sword of Orion started well and was atmospheric. Loved the scenes in the market as well in the first (? - been a while since I heard it) episode and the 'in-gag' about the use of Cyberheads as hatstands (the same gag used in Dalek in 2005). The dark, brooding atmosphere of space comes across well and the idea of Cybermen waiting is quite good. The idea of the converted people being caught in the power failure is quite horrific and captures a body horror element that was rarely seen on screen. Sadly, I thought it went down hill a bit towards the end and became rather m'eh than anything special. I always give a bit of leeway for that first McGann season - it was the first 'new' Who for years and the series was finding its feet. The only exception being Minuet in Hell - ended up with a headache after that one. Oh yes. Minuet in Hell. I do not mind bad American accents too much since I am not a native speaker. But, OMG, that was borderline. Plus it paves the way for a long no line of Charley abuse.
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Post by tuigirl on Nov 3, 2019 13:22:16 GMT
Just because I felt like it... Light at the End. I am still not the biggest fan. The story ambles along, the Master never really became a direct threat (this was done better a lot of times... just compare it to the recent Ravenous) and the ending just makes the whole exercise a bit inconsequential. There are quite a few good lines and the 4th and 8th Doctors together as well as the 6th Doctor in action are a real joy. Otherwise, the release is just not very memorable, This was my 3rd listen and I honestly had a hard time remembering the previous time.
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Post by sherlock on Nov 3, 2019 13:30:56 GMT
Just because I felt like it... Light at the End. I am still not the biggest fan. The story ambles along, the Master never really became a direct threat (this was done better a lot of times... just compare it to the recent Ravenous) and the ending just makes the whole exercise a bit inconsequential. There are quite a few good lines and the 4th and 8th Doctors together as well as the 6th Doctor in action are a real joy. Otherwise, the release is just not very memorable, This was my 3rd listen and I honestly had a hard time remembering the previous time. I think it suffers from being a bit safe. Whereas the previous anniversary special went too far with its risks and twists (glares angrily at Zagreus), The Light at the End feels a bit inconsequential, as all the Doctors do is figure out what’s going on and find a loop hole whilst the Master watches on. It’s a fun ride for what it is though.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 3, 2019 13:44:19 GMT
Just because I felt like it... Light at the End. I am still not the biggest fan. The story ambles along, the Master never really became a direct threat (this was done better a lot of times... just compare it to the recent Ravenous) and the ending just makes the whole exercise a bit inconsequential. There are quite a few good lines and the 4th and 8th Doctors together as well as the 6th Doctor in action are a real joy. Otherwise, the release is just not very memorable, This was my 3rd listen and I honestly had a hard time remembering the previous time. Having re-listened recently it does what it says on the tin a good solid straightforward Multi-Doc and a heck of a lot better than Zagreus!
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Post by fingersmash on Nov 3, 2019 14:20:16 GMT
Just because I felt like it... Light at the End. I am still not the biggest fan. The story ambles along, the Master never really became a direct threat (this was done better a lot of times... just compare it to the recent Ravenous) and the ending just makes the whole exercise a bit inconsequential. There are quite a few good lines and the 4th and 8th Doctors together as well as the 6th Doctor in action are a real joy. Otherwise, the release is just not very memorable, This was my 3rd listen and I honestly had a hard time remembering the previous time. I think it suffers from being a bit safe. Whereas the previous anniversary special went too far with its risks and twists (glares angrily at Zagreus), The Light at the End feels a bit inconsequential, as all the Doctors do is figure out what’s going on and find a loop hole whilst the Master watches on. It’s a fun ride for what it is though. It's not an amazing story but as a good bit of fluff, it's a fun romp. Anyways.. On the schedule today - An Ordinary Life and either The Yes Men or a start on Crossover Adventure Production's Wonderful Wizard of Oz
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Post by barnabaslives on Nov 3, 2019 15:02:35 GMT
That could be very true that The Light at The End might be a bit light on memorable plot points but that might also be true of The Five Doctors, come to think of it, and I'm not sure I'd want to change either one.
Maybe The Light at The End doesn't seem quite as special since Big Finish is in the business of keeping Doctors out of retirement, but Troughton and Pertwee still playing The Doctor during the Davison era was about the most awesome thing ever, and all this time later I still feel that way about multi-Doctor stories.
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