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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 1:06:05 GMT
This is probably a really bizarre idea, but what if say in the the 60th anniversary special all the incarnations of the Doctor temporarily fused together into some sort of omniDoctor that combined all of their personalities and abilities into one being?🤔😀 I'm always delighted to keep digging this special up out of storage. There's some true mileage to Rich Morris's The Ten Doctors in the concepts alone. An omniDoctor does appear as the astrally projected equivalent of a telepathic conference. He pops up at the beginning of Chapter 9.
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Post by timegirl on Feb 26, 2020 1:15:38 GMT
This is probably a really bizarre idea, but what if say in the the 60th anniversary special all the incarnations of the Doctor temporarily fused together into some sort of omniDoctor that combined all of their personalities and abilities into one being?🤔😀 I'm always delighted to keep digging this special up out of storage. There's some true mileage to Rich Morris's The Ten Doctors in the concepts alone. An omniDoctor does appear as the astrally projected equivalent of a telepathic conference. He pops up at the beginning of Chapter 9. This needs to be adapted for tv!😃
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Post by timegirl on Feb 26, 2020 2:16:05 GMT
This is probably a really bizarre idea, but what if say in the the 60th anniversary special all the incarnations of the Doctor temporarily fused together into some sort of omniDoctor that combined all of their personalities and abilities into one being?🤔😀 I'm always delighted to keep digging this special up out of storage. There's some true mileage to Rich Morris's The Ten Doctors in the concepts alone. An omniDoctor does appear as the astrally projected equivalent of a telepathic conference. He pops up at the beginning of Chapter 9. Who should play the omniDoctor?🤔It would need to be some one who could immediately be extremely Doctory?😊
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 2:27:51 GMT
I'm always delighted to keep digging this special up out of storage. There's some true mileage to Rich Morris's The Ten Doctors in the concepts alone. An omniDoctor does appear as the astrally projected equivalent of a telepathic conference. He pops up at the beginning of Chapter 9. This needs to be adapted for tv!😃 It'd be an enormous project from a post-production standpoint, but I'd love to see someone have a crack at a full-length audio adaptation of it. The omni-Doctor? Hmm... Can't say who for television (it'd probably work through some CG cleverness), but the voice in my head was always that of the Doctor's final incarnation and his final incarnation was played by Michael Jayston.
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Post by timegirl on Feb 26, 2020 2:35:36 GMT
This needs to be adapted for tv!😃 It'd be an enormous project from a post-production standpoint, but I'd love to see someone have a crack at a full-length audio adaptation of it. The omni-Doctor? Hmm... Can't say who for television (it'd probably work through some CG cleverness), but the voice in my head was always that of the Doctor's final incarnation and his final incarnation was played by Michael Jayston. Interesting thought 🤔😊 my picks for the omniDoctor would either be Hugh Grant, or Olivia Coleman😊 Not sure why exactly🤔 they just seem immediately Doctory😀
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Post by timegirl on Feb 26, 2020 3:01:17 GMT
What if there was a threat in a multi Doctor special (tv or audio) that was a bizarre alien disease that inverts people (transform them into their opposite) both their appearances and their personalities? This disease started slowly infecting every incarnation of the Doctor and they have to work together to find a cure. Meanwhile, each and every incarnation of the Doctor is dealing with slowly transforming into their own personal antithesis specific to their incarnation!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 3:44:08 GMT
It'd be an enormous project from a post-production standpoint, but I'd love to see someone have a crack at a full-length audio adaptation of it. The omni-Doctor? Hmm... Can't say who for television (it'd probably work through some CG cleverness), but the voice in my head was always that of the Doctor's final incarnation and his final incarnation was played by Michael Jayston. Interesting thought 🤔😊 my picks for the omniDoctor would either be Hugh Grant, or Olivia Coleman😊 Not sure why exactly🤔 they just seem immediately Doctory😀 *nods* Yeah, I can definitely see either. In my case, it's not so much Michael Jayston as the Valeyard, but more... Hmm... Well, Michael Jayston as himself really. Plus, I rather like the idea of cameoing in previous Doctors-on-a-technicality for the anniversary in different background roles (a la Adventures in Time and Space). That sounds like fun.
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 26, 2020 19:44:05 GMT
What if there was a threat in a multi Doctor special (tv or audio) that was a bizarre alien disease that inverts people (transform them into their opposite) both their appearances and their personalities? This disease started slowly infecting every incarnation of the Doctor and they have to work together to find a cure. Meanwhile, each and every incarnation of the Doctor is dealing with slowly transforming into their own personal antithesis specific to their incarnation! This certainly would be VERY complex plot and character- wise. But quite interesting.
I wonder if Sixie might get transformed into his Androgum version instead of the Valeyard and has to battle against chasing down cats...
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Post by timegirl on Feb 26, 2020 20:34:54 GMT
What if there was a threat in a multi Doctor special (tv or audio) that was a bizarre alien disease that inverts people (transform them into their opposite) both their appearances and their personalities? This disease started slowly infecting every incarnation of the Doctor and they have to work together to find a cure. Meanwhile, each and every incarnation of the Doctor is dealing with slowly transforming into their own personal antithesis specific to their incarnation! This certainly would be VERY complex plot and character- wise. But quite interesting.
I wonder if Sixie might get transformed into his Androgum version instead of the Valeyard and has to battle against chasing down cats... That would be hilarious 😆 what do you think the other Doctors would turn into?🤔 4 would probably turn into someone boring overly conventional and straight haired....not sure about the others though 🤔
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 26, 2020 20:38:50 GMT
This certainly would be VERY complex plot and character- wise. But quite interesting.
I wonder if Sixie might get transformed into his Androgum version instead of the Valeyard and has to battle against chasing down cats... That would be hilarious 😆 what do you think the other Doctors would turn into?🤔 4 would probably turn into someone boring overly conventional and straight haired....not sure about the others though 🤔 Well, 8 would definitely become Nasty. I love nasty 8.
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Post by timegirl on Feb 26, 2020 20:48:22 GMT
That would be hilarious 😆 what do you think the other Doctors would turn into?🤔 4 would probably turn into someone boring overly conventional and straight haired....not sure about the others though 🤔 Well, 8 would definitely become Nasty. I love nasty 8. 7 would suddenly be terrible at planning things ahead of time. 2 might become overly prim and proper. What else?🤔
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Post by timegirl on Feb 27, 2020 3:23:49 GMT
Does anyone else think that Matt King would make an amazing Doctor? 😃I have been watching him in this Australian show Spirited, and he’s so charismatic and eccentric! He is also surprisingly good with quiet dramatic scenes and showing vulnerability and sensitivity. He has certain kind of swagger that shows he’s in charge. Plus watching him on Spirited where he plays a ghost and all sorts of strange things happen but he makes it seem like they are the most natural thing in the world which is what you need in a Doctor😊 Matt King for 14!😃
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Post by timegirl on Feb 27, 2020 21:44:42 GMT
What if Graham is another chameleon arched Incarnation of the Doctor and Grace was originally Graham’s companion? We don’t know much about Graham’s past other than being a cancer survivor, Grace, and he was a retired bus driver. Those could all be a cover story programs into his brain and we don’t anything about his childhood🤔 he does get mistaken for the Doctor a lot, gives very Doctorly advice ( sometimes more than 13), doesn’t seem to want to stop traveling like the Yaz or Ryan, and that last minute word change in Ascension seemed very deliberate 🤔
I kind of want this twist to happen because imagine how triumphant it would be if instead of horrible fates like dying of cancer or being converted into a Cyberman, Graham suddenly gets his memories back of being the Doctor and then 13, RuthDoctor, BrendanDoctor( yes I am calling it😉) and GrahamDoctor all work together to save the day perhaps all forming a psychic link😀Plus revealing Graham as another Doctor would make series 11 and 12 seem pretty unique in hindsight be because it would mean every episode was a multi Doctor story!😀And then GrahamDoctor would go off in his TARDIS off to his next adventures😃 ( told in many Big Finish box sets of course😉)
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Post by mrperson on Mar 4, 2020 4:16:39 GMT
It's not a theory, just a thought that crossed my mind: Roland of Gilead as a very-unbound "Doctor"....not even a TARDIS, but doing what is necessary because it is necessary, for the greater good and without regard to his own price. Along related lines, I suppose one could consider Aragorn a similar character. Or Galadriel, crossing the grinding ice and eventually staying to fight the long defeat.....until victory is yet another defeat of sorts, but a better one. Characters with a kind and noble exterior, but with an impossible will underneath. ("he is made of sterner stuff than steel").
And could have been in the loop for what amounts to forever....
Not 100% on the nose but, eh..
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Post by Superium on Mar 12, 2020 22:56:39 GMT
After a few weeks of Fugitive of the Judoon, I thought my opinion would change, but it hasn't. Everyone went on and on about how Jo Martin outshone Jodie in the episode and that she was the better doctor, but I just don't see it. While she was a bit better in The Timeless Children, I haven't been this unimpressed by a doctor since Davison. Jodie was the highlight for me and, in fact, that was the episode that solidified her as The Doctor for me.
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Post by doctorkernow on Mar 12, 2020 23:21:00 GMT
Hello again.
I agree I don't think Jo Martin outshone Jodie. However, they complemented each other. I felt that Jo Martin's Doctor had gravitas and a seriousness that reminded me of Capaldi or Pertwee. She was only in a few scenes. John Hurt had most of a story to make an impact.
Jodie has definitely made more of an impact this series. Events have made her Doctor tougher and her scenes with the Master were thrilling. I am really looking forward to see how her Doctor develops in series 13.
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Post by Superium on Mar 13, 2020 0:33:55 GMT
Hello again. I agree I don't think Jo Martin outshone Jodie. However, they complemented each other. I felt that Jo Martin's Doctor had gravitas and a seriousness that reminded me of Capaldi or Pertwee. She was only in a few scenes. John Hurt had most of a story to make an impact. Jodie has definitely made more of an impact this series. Events have made her Doctor tougher and her scenes with the Master were thrilling. I am really looking forward to see how her Doctor develops in series 13. I think my problem with The Fugitive Doctor is only really down to the execution. Like you said, that doctor has a bit of Capaldi and Pertwee, who are my 3rd and 4th favourite doctors respectively. Had I read the script instead, I probably would like her more than 13.
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Post by Superium on Mar 13, 2020 2:03:16 GMT
The middle 8 in Ascension of the Cybermen was a downgrade compared to the one in The Woman Who Fell To Earth. TBH, the Series 12 mix of the theme in general was a bit of a downgrade compared to Series 11.
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Post by dangfish9 on Mar 15, 2020 0:14:17 GMT
Okay ..here's my two cents on the series 12 finale....I think the Doctor's mysterious people deposited the Doctor in our universe to eventually become a sort of 'galactic policeman.'....i also believe they are somehow controlling the tardis to take the Doctor to where the trouble is....remember the Matt Smith episode where the Doctor asks the tardis ' why do you never take me where I want to go?' & the tardis says ' I take you where you NEED to go,'.....also think the doctor's people ( whoever they may be ) are somehow responsible for the shape of his ships always being a police box...which would explain why Doctor Ruth's tardis was also a police box....this fits perfectly with the history of the show ..after all, it's been staring us in the face since the very first episode in 1963....clearly advertised on the Doctor's ship....POLICE PUBLIC CALL BOX....FREE FOR USE OF PUBLIC..... ADVICE & ASSISTANCE OBTAINABLE IMMEDIATELY.....OFFICER AND CARS RESPOND TO ALL CALLS......The Doctor is the officer & the Tardis is the police car that takes him where he/ she needs to be....seeing the whole 'timeless child' story in the disguised form of Brendan the policeman also seems to support this theory. What do you think?
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Post by Whovitt on Mar 15, 2020 1:08:02 GMT
Okay ..here's my two cents on the series 12 finale....I think the Doctor's mysterious people deposited the Doctor in our universe to eventually become a sort of 'galactic policeman.'....i also believe they are somehow controlling the tardis to take the Doctor to where the trouble is....remember the Matt Smith episode where the Doctor asks the tardis ' why do you never take me where I want to go?' & the tardis says ' I take you where you NEED to go,'.....also think the doctor's people ( whoever they may be ) are somehow responsible for the shape of his ships always being a police box...which would explain why Doctor Ruth's tardis was also a police box....this fits perfectly with the history of the show ..after all, it's been staring us in the face since the very first episode in 1963....clearly advertised on the Doctor's ship....POLICE PUBLIC CALL BOX....FREE FOR USE OF PUBLIC..... ADVICE & ASSISTANCE OBTAINABLE IMMEDIATELY.....OFFICER AND CARS RESPOND TO ALL CALLS......The Doctor is the officer & the Tardis is the police car that takes him where he/ she needs to be....seeing the whole 'timeless child' story in the disguised form of Brendan the policeman also seems to support this theory. What do you think? It's certainly interesting, but it does bring into question why the TARDIS's chameleon circuit was active before An Unearthly Child. The Doctor was "disturbed" it hadn't changed, and Susan rattles off a couple of other things the ship had disguised itself as in the past. Thinking about it though, there's always been a strong suggestion that it was Ian and Barbara's influence that led the Doctor to becoming the person they are today (the intent to kill the wounded caveman with a rock being something repeatedly explored in extended media, as it was only Ian's intervention that stopped him from going through with it). Maybe it was part of the plan - the Doctor needed that little push to become who he needed to be? Expanding on this, I recently watched the special edition of The Curse of Fenric for the first time in many, many years and heard what the Doctor was saying when he invokes his faith against the Haemovores - a list of his companions, starting with Ace and including Susan, Barbara, Vicki, and Steven. Maybe knowing that the Doctor was ultimately destined to have this rematch with Fenric, the "powers that be" made sure he had been given something to believe in so he could survive the ordeal and defeat Fenric. They gave the Doctor some time to be whoever he wanted pre- An Unearthly Child, then steered him gently in the direction he needed to go for their purposes as the 'galactic policeman', as you put it? If I'm honest though, I'd rather not believe that. It would take away any sense of agency from the Doctor, making them a puppet rather than an individual who chose to do what they do. I won't deny that this has all been some very interesting conjecture, but I think that would destroy any independence of the character.
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