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Post by aztec on Apr 30, 2016 15:59:24 GMT
Personally, season 6B has always struck me as an interesting idea, and I'd be open to BF (or someone else) exploring it in more detail (depending on the storylines), although I understand why some feel it undermines The War Games, (and the obscurity/divisiveness of the theory could potentially impact the commercial success of 6B releases), I thought I'd start a new thread/poll for discussion as it's an intriguing, divisive theory, and a goldmine of very different potential 2nd Doctor stories...at the very least I'm surprised BF have never considered creating a new companion for the 2nd Doctor...
-I haven't heard it yet, but I'm aware that 'The Black Hole' does complicate/damage the theory a little...
-One other question, given that the 2nd Doctor would have spent a proportion of 6b travelling without Jamie, how would you feel about hypothetical 6b releases with Hines as the 2nd Doctor, but with the Doctor travelling alone, or with new companions? This would in effect, be recasting the 2nd Doctor and severing links with the Tv series, which for some might not feel like 'proper' Doctor Who.
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Post by newt5996 on Apr 30, 2016 16:06:18 GMT
I'd be all for it especially considering most people place Helicon Prime in Season 6B.
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Post by aztec on Apr 30, 2016 16:11:59 GMT
I'd be all for it especially considering most people place Helicon Prime in Season 6B. I haven't heard Helicon Prime, but at the very least I find the 6b theory a fascinating one from a storytelling potential point of view, if BF can do over a dozen new Peri/5 stories I don't think 6b stories would be too much of a stretch...though it would probably make more sense to market 6b stories as there own range, outside regular 2nd Dr continuity, so people would be free to ignore them if they wanted...
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Post by constonks on Apr 30, 2016 16:18:52 GMT
Technically, Big Finish has produced an explicit 6B story where someone says that Jamie and the Doctor are working for the Time Lords - it's the last story of Short Trips: Past Tense and features Polly and Ben meeting up with Jamie and the Doctor years after their departure.
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 30, 2016 18:07:38 GMT
They kind of burned that bridge with The Black Hole.
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Post by Digi on Apr 30, 2016 19:08:36 GMT
Voted 'Other'
Doing 6B stories would likely mean recasting Troughton. No thank you.
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 30, 2016 19:30:11 GMT
Voted 'Other' Doing 6B stories would likely mean recasting Troughton. No thank you. I'm sure they'd just use Frazer Hines.
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Post by Digi on Apr 30, 2016 21:15:21 GMT
Voted 'Other' Doing 6B stories would likely mean recasting Troughton. No thank you. I'm sure they'd just use Frazer Hines. I suppose that depends on how they'd do it, whether as CCs or in the style of the 3DAs.
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Post by jasonward on Apr 30, 2016 21:22:26 GMT
Voted 'Other' Doing 6B stories would likely mean recasting Troughton. No thank you. Given BF's recent conversation to letting people buy boxsets and collected works belonging to one Doctor or another, and not forcing people to purchase stories from Doctors and eras that they have no interest in, what wrong with recasting? In so much as, if it's not for you, then you wouldn't have to purchase them, but for those that want them, they could.
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Post by Digi on Apr 30, 2016 22:26:22 GMT
Didn't we just do this in another thread?
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 30, 2016 23:58:21 GMT
I'm sure they'd just use Frazer Hines. I suppose that depends on how they'd do it, whether as CCs or in the style of the 3DAs. I'm sure it would be like the Early Adventures. Frazer would voice Jamie and the Doctor, a full cast would voice everyone else, and there may or may not be a narrator.
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Post by jasonward on May 1, 2016 6:55:40 GMT
They kind of burned that bridge with The Black Hole. Someone will come up with a theory to cover that, perhaps alternative time line? Much as I really enjoyed The Black Hole, I think it was a mistake to undermine Season 6B.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 7:10:41 GMT
They kind of burned that bridge with The Black Hole. Someone will come up with a theory to cover that, perhaps alternative time line? Much as I really enjoyed The Black Hole, I think it was a mistake to undermine Season 6B. And it's not as if there haven't been contradictory stories from Big Finish before, just look at the multiverse theory of Zagreus vs. the all-inclusive Mary's Story.
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Post by SoundableObject on May 1, 2016 8:15:44 GMT
Season 6B has not been quashed by The Black Hole. Only the placement of The Two Doctors in Season 6B has. The Five Doctors would still need to take place after The War Games for the Second Doctor.
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Post by mbt66 on May 1, 2016 11:55:40 GMT
The 2nd Doctor era is not something I know much about and when I tried the Big Finish audios with The Rosemariners it is not something that interests me very much. I am sorry to say that I didn't like (to my ear) Jamie voicing the Doctor. Having since heard Return to Telos I am even less interested in hearing more 2nd Doctor stories.
However if they were to take the series 6b route as full cast and recast the 2nd Doctor with the explanation that the Time Lords didn't quite put him back the same way I think I would give them another go.
Could the Time Lords meddling in the Doctor's regeneration give the possibility to have unbound versions? The Doctors persona might not be stable so that from time to time he phases into a different person. Incarnations that could have been or perhaps will be, but are slightly different. A bit like the Locum Doctor trilogy, but the Doctor could change at anytime during the story/series.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 12:05:34 GMT
The 2nd Doctor era is not something I know much about and when I tried the Big Finish audios with The Rosemariners it is not something that interests me very much. I am sorry to say that I didn't like (to my ear) Jamie voicing the Doctor. Having since heard Return to Telos I am even less interested in hearing more 2nd Doctor stories. However if they were to take the series 6b route as full cast and recast the 2nd Doctor with the explanation that the Time Lords didn't quite put him back the same way I think I would give them another go. Could the Time Lords meddling in the Doctor's regeneration give the possibility to have unbound versions? The Doctors persona might not be stable so that from time to time he phases into a different person. Incarnations that could have been or perhaps will be, but are slightly different. A bit like the Locum Doctor trilogy, but the Doctor could change at anytime during the story/series. You haven't heard of Devious or the Second-and-a-Half Doctor by any chance?
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Post by mbt66 on May 1, 2016 12:39:48 GMT
The 2nd Doctor era is not something I know much about and when I tried the Big Finish audios with The Rosemariners it is not something that interests me very much. I am sorry to say that I didn't like (to my ear) Jamie voicing the Doctor. Having since heard Return to Telos I am even less interested in hearing more 2nd Doctor stories. However if they were to take the series 6b route as full cast and recast the 2nd Doctor with the explanation that the Time Lords didn't quite put him back the same way I think I would give them another go. Could the Time Lords meddling in the Doctor's regeneration give the possibility to have unbound versions? The Doctors persona might not be stable so that from time to time he phases into a different person. Incarnations that could have been or perhaps will be, but are slightly different. A bit like the Locum Doctor trilogy, but the Doctor could change at anytime during the story/series. You haven't heard of Devious or the Second-and-a-Half Doctor by any chance? No. That means nothing to me. As I said the Second Doctor era doesn't really interest me. It was before my time. The Fourth Doctor on TV was my Doctor. When he left Doctor Who I basically did too. That was until Big Finish came along!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 1, 2016 12:58:29 GMT
I don't see the harm in doing Season 6B. It could allow for a lot of imaginative ideas and maybe even a 'The Second Doctor: The Last Adventure' featuring the 2nd Doctor's actual regeneration.
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Post by mbt66 on May 1, 2016 13:19:07 GMT
I don't see the harm in doing Season 6B. It could allow for a lot of imaginative ideas and maybe even a 'The Second Doctor: The Last Adventure' featuring the 2nd Doctor's actual regeneration. I hadn't even thought about that! Getting another regeneration story can't be a bad thing. Although I confess that I have never watch The War Games...
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Post by icecreamdf on May 1, 2016 17:29:37 GMT
Season 6B has not been quashed by The Black Hole. Only the placement of The Two Doctors in Season 6B has. The Five Doctors would still need to take place after The War Games for the Second Doctor. Season 6B is really meaningless if you don't place The Two Doctors there though. The entire point of 6B is to explain all the plot holes in the Two Doctors. The Five Doctors is easy to explain without 6B. The Doctor wanted to talk to the Brigadier alone, so Jamie and Zoe are doing their own thing in 20th century Earth. The Brigadier, who doesn't fully understand all this time travel stuff, mentions that Jamie and Zoe were sent home by the Time Lords.
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