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Post by Ela on May 31, 2016 18:20:47 GMT
If you mean the Silence, yes, the Doctor specifically says he can't remember them. It's sort of complex, though, isn't it? They can't remember them when they see them but at some point they start remembering that such a thing exists. Otherwise, how do they remember to make marks on their arms when they see one? There's lots of discussion about this on other sites that I've seen. Hmm... The Silurians activate a race memory in human beings that causes them to regress back to their neolithic ancestors, so perhaps it's something similar? Maybe it's a deliberate psychological block similar to anterograde amnesia that is triggered in humanoids as a means of defending the mind against them. You do remember at least on a subconscious level, but your mind can't access the memory without triggering the trauma, so it keeps it buried until faced with it again. As to why exactly this happens with the Silence in particular... I'm almost tempted to believe that they somehow exist outside of conventional Euclidian geometry, something about the shape triggers a warning signal in the back of the brain that causes it to switch off long-term memory. Interesting thoughts.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 9:39:39 GMT
It's not strictly Doctor Who, but the Doctor's neat little quip about him "Driving only as fast as he can see," from Transit sticks out as an identical quip to the main character in Big Trouble in Little China.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jun 12, 2016 2:09:33 GMT
One thst occurs is the Moon Egg and the Silurians, they said something to the effect of "the coming of the small planet" causing havoc. We just assumed it was a rogue planetoid, rather than a space chicken.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jun 26, 2016 1:09:35 GMT
Reread "The Writer's Tale" by RTD the other week and got a little shiver up my spine at the draft script he shared for "Journey's End" in the scene where Dalek Caan gives a speech and utters the words, "No more."
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jun 26, 2016 4:34:33 GMT
If we assume that the Peladon stories are allegories for the UK entering the Common Market/EU then Legacy has become Pexit - given that at the nd of that novel the Pels leave the Federation.
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Post by Ela on Sept 29, 2016 18:39:28 GMT
So I'm re-reading The Highest Science Virgin New Adventure, in preparation for listening to the novel adaptation of it, and I noticed something I didn't notice the first time I read that book. Benny is watching the Seventh Doctor operate the TARDIS and she thinks: Of course, that made me think of the scene with the Tenth Doctor and his companions in the TARDIS towards the end of Journey's End where he says (in true Tenth Doctor disjointed run-on sentence fashion ): I wonder if the six operators for a TARDIS is mentioned anywhere else. I can't recall having seen it elsewhere, and in most stories I've seen, heard or watched, a TARDIS has fewer operators.
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Post by agentten on Sept 29, 2016 19:06:52 GMT
So I'm re-reading The Highest Science Virgin New Adventure, in preparation for listening to the novel adaptation of it, and I noticed something I didn't notice the first time I read that book. Benny is watching the Seventh Doctor operate the TARDIS and she thinks: Of course, that made me think of the scene with the Tenth Doctor and his companions in the TARDIS towards the end of Journey's End where he says (in true Tenth Doctor disjointed run-on sentence fashion ): I wonder if the six operators for a TARDIS is mentioned anywhere else. I can't recall having seen it elsewhere, and in most stories I've seen, heard or watched, a TARDIS has fewer operators. My head cannon to explain why other Time Lords seem able to pilot their TARDIS solo is that it's specifically the Type 40 that needs six operators. Many/Most TARDISes require only one or two operators. Also, in my head cannon the Doctor has jerry rigged his TARDIS to (mostly) be flown solo. This is why Romana and River can pilot it solo. I admit this is completely my own interpretation, but it works for me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 19:53:20 GMT
So I'm re-reading The Highest Science Virgin New Adventure, in preparation for listening to the novel adaptation of it, and I noticed something I didn't notice the first time I read that book. Benny is watching the Seventh Doctor operate the TARDIS and she thinks: Of course, that made me think of the scene with the Tenth Doctor and his companions in the TARDIS towards the end of Journey's End where he says (in true Tenth Doctor disjointed run-on sentence fashion ): I wonder if the six operators for a TARDIS is mentioned anywhere else. I can't recall having seen it elsewhere, and in most stories I've seen, heard or watched, a TARDIS has fewer operators. My head cannon to explain why other Time Lords seem able to pilot their TARDIS solo is that it's specifically the Type 40 that needs six operators. Many/Most TARDISes require only one or two operators. Also, in my head cannon the Doctor has jerry rigged his TARDIS to (mostly) be flown solo. This is why Romana and River can pilot it solo. I admit this is completely my own interpretation, but it works for me. That would certainly explain why the Doctor had virtually no control over their journeys prior to his third incarnation, I can see his fondness for gadgetry allowing him to bypass that problem. That said, maybe the earlier TARDISes require six operators, but still just one "pilot" as we understand the concept?
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Post by Ela on Sept 29, 2016 21:09:03 GMT
My head cannon to explain why other Time Lords seem able to pilot their TARDIS solo is that it's specifically the Type 40 that needs six operators. Many/Most TARDISes require only one or two operators. Also, in my head cannon the Doctor has jerry rigged his TARDIS to (mostly) be flown solo. This is why Romana and River can pilot it solo. I admit this is completely my own interpretation, but it works for me. That would certainly explain why the Doctor had virtually no control over their journeys prior to his third incarnation, I can see his fondness for gadgetry allowing him to bypass that problem. That said, maybe the earlier TARDISes require six operators, but still just one "pilot" as we understand the concept? Both of these make sense to me.
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Post by mrperson on Sept 29, 2016 21:50:26 GMT
Of course, that made me think of the scene with the Tenth Doctor and his companions in the TARDIS towards the end of Journey's End where he says (in true Tenth Doctor disjointed run-on sentence fashion ): I wonder if the six operators for a TARDIS is mentioned anywhere else. I can't recall having seen it elsewhere, and in most stories I've seen, heard or watched, a TARDIS has fewer operators. That's the only time I remember it being mentioned, at least on TV. I feel like I may have also heard it riffed on in audios but if so, I certainly can't recall the episode.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Sept 29, 2016 21:55:26 GMT
So I'm re-reading The Highest Science Virgin New Adventure, in preparation for listening to the novel adaptation of it, and I noticed something I didn't notice the first time I read that book. Benny is watching the Seventh Doctor operate the TARDIS and she thinks: Of course, that made me think of the scene with the Tenth Doctor and his companions in the TARDIS towards the end of Journey's End where he says (in true Tenth Doctor disjointed run-on sentence fashion ): I wonder if the six operators for a TARDIS is mentioned anywhere else. I can't recall having seen it elsewhere, and in most stories I've seen, heard or watched, a TARDIS has fewer operators. My head cannon to explain why other Time Lords seem able to pilot their TARDIS solo is that it's specifically the Type 40 that needs six operators. Many/Most TARDISes require only one or two operators. Also, in my head cannon the Doctor has jerry rigged his TARDIS to (mostly) be flown solo. This is why Romana and River can pilot it solo. I admit this is completely my own interpretation, but it works for me. "Taking of Planet 5" has a perspective piece about the TARDIS having a lot of real world engineering in it in order to allow the Doctor to drive so the TARDIS can take in the view from time to time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 22:54:14 GMT
My head cannon to explain why other Time Lords seem able to pilot their TARDIS solo is that it's specifically the Type 40 that needs six operators. Many/Most TARDISes require only one or two operators. Also, in my head cannon the Doctor has jerry rigged his TARDIS to (mostly) be flown solo. This is why Romana and River can pilot it solo. I admit this is completely my own interpretation, but it works for me. "Taking of Planet 5" has a perspective piece about the TARDIS having a lot of real world engineering in it in order to allow the Doctor to drive so the TARDIS can take in the view from time to time. That would also make sense of his "It's been in the ship ever since I've constructed it," line from waaaaay back in The Chase. There are chunks of actual physical hardware in his TARDIS rather than the standard block transfer computational matter that comes from the cradles. Actually, that whole "inner space is actually programmable matter" approach to the ship pretty much does away with the inconsistency that the TARDIS both is and isn't indestructible. She is, but her occupants are not. Theoretically, a big enough shock to the ship's systems would cause it to lose structural integrity and return to its constituent components sans its occupants. Ooh, that opens up a really interesting possibility... If the situation is dire enough, can a TARDIS cannibalise its own operators for power/energy requirements? The situation was dire enough for it to momentarily take control of Ian and Susan in The Edge of Destruction, I wonder...
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Post by jasonward on Sept 30, 2016 3:40:56 GMT
I suspect the number of operators is more like it is in Star Trek, it's perfectly possible for one person to fly a Star Trek ship, at least for a while and over short distances, but if you want to do it properly, then you need a proper flight crew. But I also reckon that over the years, and all the tinkering we know he's done I'm sure he's done many alterations to help him.
In terms of other's Tradises, I suspect there are different models and different crewing levels, and again it seems likely to me that The Master, The Rani etc have all spent a lot of time tinkering with their Tardises and that many of the other times we see Timelords apparently alone with a Tardis it's because their either doing what they think of as a "short hop" and they can get away with it or because secrecy just demands it.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 30, 2016 9:37:27 GMT
I wonder if the six operators for a TARDIS is mentioned anywhere else. I can't recall having seen it elsewhere, and in most stories I've seen, heard or watched, a TARDIS has fewer operators. I hate the idea of a six operator TARDIS. Only done by RTD so each actor could do something in the scene. Although The Monk had a slightly different model than the Doctors, he had no troubles. Romana had no problems piloting the TARDIS. Stinks of desperation!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 10:04:03 GMT
I wonder if the six operators for a TARDIS is mentioned anywhere else. I can't recall having seen it elsewhere, and in most stories I've seen, heard or watched, a TARDIS has fewer operators. I hate the idea of a six operator TARDIS. Only done by RTD so each actor could do something in the scene. Although The Monk had a slightly different model than the Doctors, he had no troubles. Romana had no problems piloting the TARDIS. Stinks of desperation! It's canon now.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Sept 30, 2016 10:23:14 GMT
I wonder if the six operators for a TARDIS is mentioned anywhere else. I can't recall having seen it elsewhere, and in most stories I've seen, heard or watched, a TARDIS has fewer operators. I hate the idea of a six operator TARDIS. Only done by RTD so each actor could do something in the scene. Although The Monk had a slightly different model than the Doctors, he had no troubles. Romana had no problems piloting the TARDIS. Stinks of desperation! It did allow the gorgeous Freema Agyeman one last chance to mug the camera.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 30, 2016 10:40:46 GMT
I hate the idea of a six operator TARDIS. Only done by RTD so each actor could do something in the scene. Although The Monk had a slightly different model than the Doctors, he had no troubles. Romana had no problems piloting the TARDIS. Stinks of desperation! It's canon now. As is, the Doctor being half human, or is it???
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 11:03:50 GMT
As is, the Doctor being half human, or is it??? As always with Doctor Who... it's whatever you want it to be! Like what you like, ignore what you don't. (It works for me anyway.) I didn't have a problem with the half-human thing either, but each to their own.
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Post by jasonward on Sept 30, 2016 11:10:52 GMT
I wonder if the six operators for a TARDIS is mentioned anywhere else. I can't recall having seen it elsewhere, and in most stories I've seen, heard or watched, a TARDIS has fewer operators. I hate the idea of a six operator TARDIS. Only done by RTD so each actor could do something in the scene. Although The Monk had a slightly different model than the Doctors, he had no troubles. Romana had no problems piloting the TARDIS. Stinks of desperation! You hate anything and everything in the show since it's revival, why do you watch it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 11:14:26 GMT
As is, the Doctor being half human, or is it??? As always with Doctor Who... it's whatever you want it to be! Like what you like, ignore what you don't. (It works for me anyway.) I didn't have a problem with the half-human thing either, but each to their own. Best approach really, befitting such an anarchic hero such as the Doctor. Time is what you make of it, continuity even more so. After all, it's so much more fun to build than it is to destroy.
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