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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 15:48:46 GMT
Bring Back Susan campaign starts here.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jul 31, 2016 16:21:46 GMT
I'd love to see Carole Ann Ford back as Susan for one more episode before a Regeneration.
I'm sure Capaldi would love that as well
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jul 31, 2016 21:11:00 GMT
Susan would/should still be on Earth. (Ignore novels and audio). The only story would be some sort of sequel to Dalek Invasion. A sort of Frontios.
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Post by aztec on Jul 31, 2016 21:39:37 GMT
If they can think of a decent enough reason to bring her back beyond mere shock value, and at least make a token attempt to acknowledge BF continuity, then sure why not? I'd want them to bring back Carole Ann Ford for a regeneration story if she wanted to do it, but it might just be easier skipping to a new incarnation (Was Susan a full timelord? or just a ordinary Gallifreyan?)
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jul 31, 2016 21:39:42 GMT
Susan would/should still be on Earth. (Ignore novels and audio). The only story would be some sort of sequel to Dalek Invasion. A sort of Frontios. Brick wall, as I had previously mentioned. |
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Post by barnabaslives on Jul 31, 2016 22:03:22 GMT
If they can think of a decent enough reason to bring her back beyond mere shock value, and at least make a token attempt to acknowledge BF continuity, then sure why not? I'd want them to bring back Carole Ann Ford for a regeneration story if she wanted to do it, but it might just be easier skipping to a new incarnation (Was Susan a full timelord? or just a ordinary Gallifreyan?) I do think I'm pleased enough with Sarah Jane's return to the series that it leaves me optimistic that Susan making an appearance could be a wonderful thing. Nostalgically speaking, someone from the first episode is even better than a 3rd/4th Doctor companion turning up. Is Susan eligible for an upgrade to Time Lady if she isn't one already? Maybe that would be handy if she's getting involved in the Time War? Not that it has to be a regeneration story, but if it even hinted at Susan getting more lifetimes it could provide a superb ending to what I hope would be a heartfelt reunion and a blazing battle with Daleks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 23:07:53 GMT
I've always thought Susan should return. There's so much untapped potential to explore there. How does Susan feel about the Doctor never returning to her as promised? She won't remember the events of The Five Doctors but even so the eighth Doctor in the Big Finish stories was still five incarnations' ago. A long time to go without visiting family. This is nitpicking on my part, but I thought she did remember the Death Zone on Gallifrey? It's one of the first things she says to the Doctor in An Unearthly Child. It would be interesting if the Doctor came back to her and Susan treats him as a dangerous enemy rather than her grandfather, it would be an interesting twist on what's we see at the end of To the Death. Not resentful, I don't think she could ever resent him, but certainly wary and untrusting. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 0:38:15 GMT
For me, yes. Just imagine how epic and mind boggling it would be for the kids: The Doctor's granddaughter!
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Aug 1, 2016 10:40:43 GMT
Susan would/should still be on Earth. (Ignore novels and audio). The only story would be some sort of sequel to Dalek Invasion. A sort of Frontios. Brick wall, as I had previously mentioned. And, what's wrong with that? |
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Aug 1, 2016 10:45:26 GMT
I've always thought Susan should return. There's so much untapped potential to explore there. How does Susan feel about the Doctor never returning to her as promised? She won't remember the events of The Five Doctors but even so the eighth Doctor in the Big Finish stories was still five incarnations' ago. A long time to go without visiting family. Why won't she remember the events of The Five Doctors? |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 1, 2016 11:46:07 GMT
I always pictured Susan as having finished her time at the academy before running away with the Doctor. I do like the hint in Hell Bent, that she could have been the Presidents daughter that he "stole".
Well its either that or it was Susan's Grandmother that he "stole" from the President
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 1, 2016 14:28:01 GMT
Brick wall, as I had previously mentioned. And, what's wrong with that? Because it'd make the Doctor look like an idiot, which would give you more excuses to complain about Moffat or Chibnail or whoever ends up doing it. A vicious cycle, if you will. |
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Aug 1, 2016 15:32:04 GMT
And, what's wrong with that? Because it'd make the Doctor look like an idiot, which would give you more excuses to complain about Moffat or Chibnail or whoever ends up doing it. A vicious cycle, if you will. No more an idiot than he is now. If the TARDIS were still faulty, it would have worked, but RTD/Moffat have it working perfectly now. Having Susan in the Time War would be even more stupid. |
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Aug 2, 2016 2:03:50 GMT
Susan would/should still be on Earth. (Ignore novels and audio). The only story would be some sort of sequel to Dalek Invasion. A sort of Frontios. The Night of the Doctor acknowledged the existence of the BF continuity, take it how you will, so why would that be ignored at all? I doubt it would be referenced beyond a passing line a la "the Daleks killed my son," as mentioned earlier above and that would allow non BF listeners to telegraph whatever they liked onto the gap after The Dalek Invasion of Earth. She COULD still be on Earth. Quite plausible. Surely, even skating over the BF stories, the Time War itself is already, for Susan, a sequel to TDIOE? So a return would have to be beyond that still and take that into account. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Aug 2, 2016 12:17:44 GMT
I've always thought Susan should return. There's so much untapped potential to explore there. How does Susan feel about the Doctor never returning to her as promised? She won't remember the events of The Five Doctors but even so the eighth Doctor in the Big Finish stories was still five incarnations' ago. A long time to go without visiting family. Why won't she remember the events of The Five Doctors? Because it was a Multi-Doctor and she wasn't with the current Doctor at the time. |
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Aug 2, 2016 15:04:42 GMT
Why won't she remember the events of The Five Doctors? Because it was a Multi-Doctor and she wasn't with the current Doctor at the time. That's irrelevant. From the pov of Susan, The Five Doctors took place after Dalek Invasion. SJ Smith and the Brigadier should remember events, too. |
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Post by mrperson on Aug 2, 2016 15:11:40 GMT
Huh. I have precisely zero recollection of Susan's role in The Five Doctors....
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Post by escalus5 on Aug 2, 2016 17:26:08 GMT
Why won't she remember the events of The Five Doctors? Because it was a Multi-Doctor and she wasn't with the current Doctor at the time. Susan mentions last seeing the Doctor in his fifth incarnation in An Earthly Child. So, at least according to Big Finish, she does remember. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 22:40:37 GMT
Susan mentions last seeing the Doctor in his fifth incarnation in An Earthly Child. So, at least according to Big Finish, she does remember. Some days, I consider Big Finish more Canonical than The T.V Show as it is always striving to keep in line other pieces of continuity. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 1:03:23 GMT
Because it was a Multi-Doctor and she wasn't with the current Doctor at the time. Susan mentions last seeing the Doctor in his fifth incarnation in An Earthly Child. So, at least according to Big Finish, she does remember. Susan seems to be the exception to this particular rule. For a long time, the expanded universe followed the example of The War Games where the events of stories like The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors and The Trial of a Time Lord were erased to preserve the integrity of the timeline. Not completely, as we saw with the Sixth Doctor in Time of Your Life (who only remembered bits and pieces), but enough so that future events and knowledge of Time Lord interference was kept as minimal as possible. It's possible that Susan remembers seeing her grandfather in the Death Zone, but not what exactly happened there. After all, knowledge of Rassilon's tomb is something I think they'd probably prefer to keep in quiet secrecy rather than spreading around the universe. Gallifrey doesn't need any more reason to be attacked by tech pirates or bodysnatchers like the Death Collectors. |
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