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Post by Ela on Sept 15, 2016 18:00:12 GMT
It does have a lot to do with personal preference. I have friends who started out with Matt Smith as the Doctor and Moffat as the showrunner who loved those stories. I had to convince them to go back and watch some series 1-4 Doctor Who. (I usually tell people to start with Dalek, if they don't like the earlier stories, as that's where I feel the show really started to take off.) You need to convince them to watch some Tom Baker! That comes next.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 20:48:02 GMT
That comes next. While I think that the last two seasons of Classic Who area better jumping-on point in terms of being like NuWho, and should be where to start for reluctant watchers of Classic Who, old Tombo is perfect for those who are biting at the... thing* to watch it. *What is that saying dammit?! I think you are looking for the word bit.
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 15, 2016 20:54:24 GMT
Have you read Peter Davison's interview in the latest DWM? He talks about why this is helpful Do you really think Peter Davison, an active performer, would say anything derogatory about NuWho, or anyone he is currently working with, or wants to work with? He kind of did, or at least come very close to, saying derogatory things about his coworkers in that interview.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 15, 2016 21:17:40 GMT
Do you really think Peter Davison, an active performer, would say anything derogatory about NuWho, or anyone he is currently working with, or wants to work with? He kind of did, or at least come very close to, saying derogatory things about his coworkers in that interview. Current and recent coworkers?
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 16, 2016 1:07:02 GMT
He kind of did, or at least come very close to, saying derogatory things about his coworkers in that interview. Current and recent coworkers? The most memorable (living) ones were Matthew Waterhouse and the Bakers. He still does BF with Matthew, and I'm sure that he has to deal with the Bakers plenty. He was careful not to be too mean, (at least not to Matthew and Colin), but he was meaner to them than he was to the concept of story arcs.
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Post by elkawho on Sept 16, 2016 2:41:42 GMT
I haven't read the article, but Peter Davison has a very dry, biting sense of humor that can come across as mean. I think the above mentioned people have known and worked with him long enough to know this by now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 3:14:11 GMT
I haven't read the article, but Peter Davison has a very dry, biting sense of humor that can come across as mean. I think the above mentioned people have known and worked with him long enough to know this by now. Given Colin has a very similar sense of humour, it's probably a longstanding game of tit-for-tat with the Bakers. They seemed to have a rollicking good time doing The Five-ish Doctors anyway and Colin was singing his praises after it'd finished. I don't think there's enmity there.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 16, 2016 8:08:50 GMT
Current and recent coworkers? The most memorable (living) ones were Matthew Waterhouse and the Bakers. He still does BF with Matthew, and I'm sure that he has to deal with the Bakers plenty. He was careful not to be too mean, (at least not to Matthew and Colin), but he was meaner to them than he was to the concept of story arcs. Wasnt aware off the Bakers, if true.
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 16, 2016 18:25:33 GMT
I haven't read the article, but Peter Davison has a very dry, biting sense of humor that can come across as mean. I think the above mentioned people have known and worked with him long enough to know this by now. Given Colin has a very similar sense of humour, it's probably a longstanding game of tit-for-tat with the Bakers. They seemed to have a rollicking good time doing The Five-ish Doctors anyway and Colin was singing his praises after it'd finished. I don't think there's enmity there. I'm not sure if "mean" is exactly the right word, but he was critical.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 19:04:50 GMT
Certain storylines are good (The Fenric Arc, Psi-Powers and Vote Saxon), but then there are some really bad ones that just feel forced (Hybrid, Missy). A storyline is only good when it adds to the story, rather than interrupts it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 19:06:19 GMT
Current and recent coworkers? The most memorable (living) ones were Matthew Waterhouse and the Bakers. He still does BF with Matthew, and I'm sure that he has to deal with the Bakers plenty. He was careful not to be too mean, (at least not to Matthew and Colin), but he was meaner to them than he was to the concept of story arcs. I honestly think Davison came across as incredibly passive-aggressive in that specific interview.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 22:40:53 GMT
Given Colin has a very similar sense of humour, it's probably a longstanding game of tit-for-tat with the Bakers. They seemed to have a rollicking good time doing The Five-ish Doctors anyway and Colin was singing his praises after it'd finished. I don't think there's enmity there. I'm not sure if "mean" is exactly the right word, but he was critical. I'd definitely like to see this interview for myself. The man's certainly got opinions (he's not a fan of Black Orchid and thinks Enlightenment was stifled a little by its television budget, for example), but most of the time it seems to be harmless.
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 17, 2016 3:16:17 GMT
I'm not sure if "mean" is exactly the right word, but he was critical. I'd definitely like to see this interview for myself. The man's certainly got opinions (he's not a fan of Black Orchid and thinks Enlightenment was stifled a little by its television budget, for example), but most of the time it seems to be harmless. Well, you should get a copy of last month's DWM and read it. I found the most interesting parts to be his stories about Anthony Ainley.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 4:27:22 GMT
I'd definitely like to see this interview for myself. The man's certainly got opinions (he's not a fan of Black Orchid and thinks Enlightenment was stifled a little by its television budget, for example), but most of the time it seems to be harmless. Well, you should get a copy of last month's DWM and read it. I found the most interesting parts to be his stories about Anthony Ainley. Alrighty, I've just bought a digital copy. Ainley sounds very lovely, an overly self-conscious softie. I had no idea Janet Fielding was fighting cancer, the damn thing seems to be everywhere. Reading the whole thing, I don't think there's any serious malice intended. Remember that Peter Davison is not the Fifth Doctor, so such a candid look into his personality while chilling out at a pub is probably going to be a bit jarring. He strikes me as a man who doesn't really take himself or his surroundings particularly seriously. The interview feels very much like an impermanent thing, his feelings at that moment in time as someone who started off as a working class chap from South London. Colin's passionate, Sylvester's energetic and Peter's laid-back it would seem.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 17, 2016 9:59:44 GMT
Certain storylines are good (The Fenric Arc, Psi-Powers and Vote Saxon), but then there are some really bad ones that just feel forced (Hybrid, Missy). A storyline is only good when it adds to the story, rather than interrupts it. I thought the Missy arc was good, in that it made it so obvious that she was going to be the Master that you didn't expect it to happen and were shocked when it did.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Sept 17, 2016 21:45:36 GMT
Certain storylines are good (The Fenric Arc, Psi-Powers and Vote Saxon), but then there are some really bad ones that just feel forced (Hybrid, Missy). A storyline is only good when it adds to the story, rather than interrupts it. I thought the Missy arc was good, in that it made it so obvious that she was going to be the Master that you didn't expect it to happen and were shocked when it did. You expected it to happen, but weren't shocked when it did happen? Yeah, great writing!
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 17, 2016 22:52:06 GMT
I thought the Missy arc was good, in that it made it so obvious that she was going to be the Master that you didn't expect it to happen and were shocked when it did. You expected it to happen, but weren't shocked when it did happen? Yeah, great writing! He said he was shocked when it did happen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 5:09:33 GMT
You expected it to happen, but weren't shocked when it did happen? Yeah, great writing! He said he was shocked when it did happen. Me too, albeit for different reasons. I was convinced up until the last moment that it was Romana gone bad. I'm not entirely sure why.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 18, 2016 8:40:26 GMT
I thought the Missy arc was good, in that it made it so obvious that she was going to be the Master that you didn't expect it to happen and were shocked when it did. You expected it to happen, but weren't shocked when it did happen? Yeah, great writing! I thought 'It seems like she's the Master but that's too obvious so it can't be', so when she was revealed to be the Master I was surprised.
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Post by omega on Sept 18, 2016 8:50:39 GMT
You expected it to happen, but weren't shocked when it did happen? Yeah, great writing! I thought 'It seems like she's the Master but that's too obvious so it can't be', so when she was revealed to be the Master I was surprised. The right under your nose reaction to occam's razor (it's often the simplest explanation).
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