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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 13, 2016 0:50:30 GMT
Well, Santa himself was in a Christmas episode a couple of years ago so anything is possible! Specifically, as a construct generated by the people while they were dreaming so that they could help themselves within the dream architecture. The Orange at the end suggests, perhaps, otherwise. maybe its leftover Time War gubbins.
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Post by icecreamdf on Oct 13, 2016 2:50:13 GMT
Specifically, as a construct generated by the people while they were dreaming so that they could help themselves within the dream architecture. Pardon? Did you see the episode?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 7:44:27 GMT
Specifically, as a construct generated by the people while they were dreaming so that they could help themselves within the dream architecture. Pardon? An incredibly illustrative way of saying that Santa was basically a means of escape created by the subconsciouses of those trapped there. Think the fictional Spiridonian anti-hallucinogenic flower from Brotherhood of the Daleks which the Doctor makes up to trick his and Charley's mind out of their altered state .Specifically, as a construct generated by the people while they were dreaming so that they could help themselves within the dream architecture. The Orange at the end suggests, perhaps, otherwise. maybe its leftover Time War gubbins. I've a strong suspicion after Assimilation Squared that there's been some leakage from the Land of Fiction after the Time War. Like sticking a bayonet through a bag of sand, bits and pieces of it have been trickling out into our universe. Although, a recent mention of Christmas on a Rational Planet has given me another idea. Maybe with the Time Lords in such a vulnerable state that the Time Lords' rational, scientific legacy has suffered no small amount of decay, allowing for more traditionally "magical" forces (like those pioneered by Pythia and her successors, the Sisterhood of Karn) to emerge in the present universe. It's a pretty good Watsonian explanation for the more fantastical tone of NuWho stories.
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Post by omega on Oct 13, 2016 7:49:52 GMT
An incredibly illustrative way of saying that Santa was basically a means of escape created by the subconsciouses of those trapped there. Think the fictional Spiridonian anti-hallucinogenic flower from Brotherhood of the Daleks which the Doctor makes up to trick his and Charley's mind out of their altered state .And that's hardly the most confusing part of Brotherhood of the Daleks. It's a script so densely plotted that it's even denser than dwarf Star alloy.
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Post by Timelord007 on Oct 13, 2016 7:50:37 GMT
Well, certainly not by 2018. By then we'll have Chibnall and whatever his time on the programme brings. Steven Moffat has NEVER been a Script Editor for Doctor Who! The plot thickens....who is Steven Moffat & what does he do, is he the messiah of Doctor Who or the devil bringing about it's destruction? I need to take my meds.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Oct 13, 2016 10:33:48 GMT
Steven Moffat has NEVER been a Script Editor for Doctor Who! The plot thickens....who is Steven Moffat & what does he do, is he the messiah of Doctor Who or the devil bringing about it's destruction? I need to take my meds. He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 11:34:32 GMT
An incredibly illustrative way of saying that Santa was basically a means of escape created by the subconsciouses of those trapped there. Think the fictional Spiridonian anti-hallucinogenic flower from Brotherhood of the Daleks which the Doctor makes up to trick his and Charley's mind out of their altered state .And that's hardly the most confusing part of Brotherhood of the Daleks. It's a script so densely plotted that it's even denser than dwarf Star alloy. I love it to pieces, it's one of my favourite stories from Alan Barnes. It's deeply complicated in its plotting, yet everything seems to develop and wrap up really nicely. It's Ghost Light with all the explanations left intact. There's also a great atmosphere to it, like it's been plucked from The Dalek Chronicles comics from TV21.
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Post by mrperson on Oct 13, 2016 17:35:57 GMT
Specifically, as a construct generated by the people while they were dreaming so that they could help themselves within the dream architecture. The Orange at the end suggests, perhaps, otherwise. maybe its leftover Time War gubbins. Eh, that was just a nod to Christmas.
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Post by mrperson on Oct 13, 2016 17:36:53 GMT
Specifically, as a construct generated by the people while they were dreaming so that they could help themselves within the dream architecture. Pardon? 4th paragraph of "plot" among other things: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Christmas_(Doctor_Who)My point was that Santa's appearance in a Christmas episode, especially given the manner of the "appearance" isn't some kind of precedent for actual superheroes appearing in Who. So, in turn, I hope that this still of some imbecile in a superhero outfit standing in the TARDIS is actually just someone who wandered in from a costume party or something...... ...because otherwise, ugh.
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Post by mrperson on Oct 13, 2016 17:37:36 GMT
An incredibly illustrative way of saying that Santa was basically a means of escape created by the subconsciouses of those trapped there. Think the fictional Spiridonian anti-hallucinogenic flower from Brotherhood of the Daleks which the Doctor makes up to trick his and Charley's mind out of their altered state .And that's hardly the most confusing part of Brotherhood of the Daleks. It's a script so densely plotted that it's even denser than dwarf Star alloy. And one of my favorites for it.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 13, 2016 19:25:14 GMT
As a writer, this is a bad idea. From a marketing perspective, this is a bad idea. Why? Because having the most camp superhero ever in an episode is more likely to put off viewers. Also, this is a Moffat episode with a cliche gimmick and we all know how Moffat cliche gimmick episodes work out, when they aren't taken seriously... As another writer, there are no bad ideas, only bad executions of ideas. Do you reckon that there just might be a reason that the costume is the way it is? It could be a part of the story that he looks the way he does. How about we wait and see how the episode turns out before we start reviewing it? As someone who enjoys writing and has studied writing as part of my university course, from what I've learned I agree. No idea is inherently 'bad', every idea means something to someone otherwise it wouldn't be an idea in the first place. It seems to me that with writing there's no right or wrong, just how the author/screenwriter approaches it. You can't polish a turd but you've got to create the turd first for it to be one.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 3, 2016 11:35:33 GMT
The Official DW FB page is reporting a preview clip will be shown during BBC Children In Need on Friday 18th November.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 3, 2016 20:27:21 GMT
The Official DW FB page is reporting a preview clip will be shown during BBC Children In Need on Friday 18th November. Regards mark687 Disappointing - I was hoping for a Children In Need minisode. We haven't had a minisode in ages.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 3, 2016 22:21:33 GMT
The Official DW FB page is reporting a preview clip will be shown during BBC Children In Need on Friday 18th November. Regards mark687 Disappointing - I was hoping for a Children In Need minisode. We haven't had a minisode in ages. You mean since just before the last season came out?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 3, 2016 22:24:23 GMT
Disappointing - I was hoping for a Children In Need minisode. We haven't had a minisode in ages. You mean since just before the last season came out? That was a clip from Last Christmas.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 3, 2016 22:45:30 GMT
You mean since just before the last season came out? That was a clip from Last Christmas. No, I was talking about the Doctor talking to Ohila and digging a well. I know those weren't Children in Need, but they were still minisodes.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 3, 2016 22:48:47 GMT
That was a clip from Last Christmas. No, I was talking about the Doctor talking to Ohila and digging a well. I know those weren't Children in Need, but they were still minisodes. Children In Need was what I was talking about though, not standard minisodes. I'd like to see a minisode for Children In Need again.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 4, 2016 3:49:58 GMT
No, I was talking about the Doctor talking to Ohila and digging a well. I know those weren't Children in Need, but they were still minisodes. Children In Need was what I was talking about though, not standard minisodes. I'd like to see a minisode for Children In Need again. Okay. You said we haven't had a minisode in ages, so I thought you meant any minisode. I see what you meant now.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Nov 5, 2016 23:18:55 GMT
Whether it's good or bad, this story certainly won't be the end of the world. It's a fun one-off Christmas special. I'd have an issue with permanently putting superheroes in the Doctor Who universe (and I love superheroes), but this is just one story. Plus, it'll be great for Steven Moffat to show some of his Superman enthusiasm. And then he can go save the Superman movies. Please?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 6, 2016 9:56:44 GMT
Whether it's good or bad, this story certainly won't be the end of the world. It's a fun one-off Christmas special. I'd have an issue with permanently putting superheroes in the Doctor Who universe (and I love superheroes), but this is just one story. Plus, it'll be great for Steven Moffat to show some of his Superman enthusiasm. And then he can go save the Superman movies. Please? I don't think Superman can be saved unless the DC Extended Universe comes to an end, because they've established the DCEU's Superman as having the darkness of Batman.
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