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Post by shallacatop on Feb 10, 2017 16:53:34 GMT
After reading the writing lineup for the Ninth Doctor set, I think, for me, it just further reiterates that the idea of these three sets are sound, my problem lies with the execution.
I think the choice of bringing Bruno back is questionable, but if RTD himself approves of it, then fair enough. Why not let him and Camille read their respective episodes, like a typical Companion Chronicle? Nick Briggs reading the other two isn't ideal, but I could live with it on the basis that the Ninth Doctor pool is rather limited in regards to a regular cast and he has been well noted for his Ninth Doctor impersonation.
I don't think the Tenth and Eleventh Doctor sets have any justification whatsoever, though. They've surely got enough obtainable regular cast members without the need for this bizarre decision. And that's discounting John Barrowman and Alex Kingston, who could both read for all three of the Doctors.
Yes, I don't think it's for me, I'm afraid. Certainly not the initial set anyway.
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Post by Shiny on Feb 10, 2017 17:24:39 GMT
This is good news. I'd rather not have our chances of getting ninth/tenth/eleventh doctor stories depend on the availability and willingness of three actors. Having characters like Jackie Tyler and Adam Mitchell played by their original actors will make it feel more like a story from Eccleston's era. I'd glad we're getting the Ninth Doctor one first, just because I've been wishing for more Ninth Doctor content for so long.
Hopefully the other two sets have returning characters to make them feel more a part of their respective eras. If Bernard Cribbins is in the Tenth Doctor one as Wilf, I'll pre-order instantly.
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Post by ollychops on Feb 10, 2017 17:52:34 GMT
I like the idea of these sets, but I'd prefer it if they were more along the lines of Companion Chronicles, rather than the 3DA Vol 1 and The Churchill Years. I wasn't keen on the narration in those, but I can see why they were necessary. At least with CCs, it's more the companion retelling the story so the narration and the voices are more authentic than sounding like they're just reading a book. And BF have flipped CCs on their head before and done different, more experimental things with them - like the Scorchies, Tales From the Vault, The Time Museum etc.
That being said, I am still excited for more stories for Nine, Ten and Eleven. And considering Eccleston isn't interested in returning, and both Tennant and Smith (and some of their various companions) are busy actors, I'll take this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 18:08:37 GMT
This is very exciting. Nick Briggs has a very good 9th Doctor and they have an amazing list of writers, and in case anyone is wondering he did a 10th doctor novel in The Prisoner of the Daleks and 2 11 Doctor ones in Nuclear Time and The Kings Dragons. And if I'm honest, I could Nick Briggs narrate the Phone Book, and as long as they have one cast member from the new series in each story, I'm okay.
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Post by acousticwolf on Feb 10, 2017 18:18:34 GMT
So do I, I really do. I love what Big Finish do, but can't help but feel irked about this, especially the line I've bolded. Preseumably many people, myself included, preordered The Prisoner volume 2 - people Nick said he really appreciates for supporting the controversial passion he has for the Prisoner re-imagining - and now our preorder seems have been shoved backward six months in order to make time for this latest thing he's involved himself in. There's little worse than a whinging customer, but at the moment I am a whinging customer, I'm sorry to say. I'm surprised BF haven't fulfilled the orders they already have 'in the bank' before embarking on new stuff. I kind of doubt Nick voicing the Doctors in these has anything to do with the Prisoner being delayed. No probably not, but as Nick is a very busy person generally anything that takes up his time could impact writing scripts (and he's already admitted to being behind on them). Cheers Tony
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Post by jasonward on Feb 10, 2017 18:32:44 GMT
The only thing that excites me about this announcement at the moment is Bruno Langley coming back as Adam. But is there a gap between Dalek and The Long Game? Because it seemed to me that was Adam's only trip in the Tardis. Maybe the story is set after The Doctor drops him back home? I'm really hoping Arthur Darvill will be getting involved in the Eleventh Doctor stories. And maybe Lady Christina De Souza for the Tenth's. I imagine it will be Jack and Jackie though. Why bring Adam's character back? He wasn't that likeable, makes me think were in for another round of Thomas Brewster type stories. No thanks.
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Post by aztec on Feb 10, 2017 18:51:53 GMT
The only thing that excites me about this announcement at the moment is Bruno Langley coming back as Adam. But is there a gap between Dalek and The Long Game? Because it seemed to me that was Adam's only trip in the Tardis. Maybe the story is set after The Doctor drops him back home? I'm really hoping Arthur Darvill will be getting involved in the Eleventh Doctor stories. And maybe Lady Christina De Souza for the Tenth's. I imagine it will be Jack and Jackie though. Why bring Adam's character back? He wasn't that likeable, makes me think were in for another round of Thomas Brewster type stories. No thanks. In fairness other than Jackie, Jack and Rose there are no other recurring characters from Series 1, less people will be interested with the absence of the actual doctors and companions, but Adam only appeared in two episodes (and had a cliffhanger ending of sorts) so maybe they feel there is potential there for more stories, I think he came back in some of the Titan Comics as well, it will be weird enough to hear 9th Doctor stories without Piper or Eccleston it would be even weirder to have no links at all... ...Honestly I'm wondering why they've gone the limited cast route and recast the doctor and not just done short trips instead with the actors narrating the stories instead, I'm excited that BF are moving more firmly into New Who territory, but the reaction to this announcement seems decidedly mixed, BF have paid to use the New Who license so obviously want to make use of the doctors whilst they can, but I'm wondering if it might have made more sense to wait for more of the cast to be available first, ...don't get me wrong I'm thankful BF is able to do these stories but I'm not 100% convinced doing limited cast audios merely because you can is a good enough reason to dodge around the absence of key cast they might end up putting off more new listeners than they bring in...
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Post by Bazoolium on Feb 10, 2017 19:01:06 GMT
His 9th Doctor was great in Destiny and he did a good 10 in Prisoner of the daleks. I love Nick, but I wish there were some other actors voicing the other doctors.
Anyone heard his 11?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 10, 2017 19:04:08 GMT
Great news about Bruno Langley and Ninth Doctor Chronicles. Not sure how to feel about Tenth Doctor Chronicles though because it probably means 10DA Volume 2 isn't happening. If the latter is true then that's a massive shock. I thought David Tennant would be extra keen to record a volume two. Eleventh Doctor Chronicles are cool too.
I'm glad they're bringing back Adam because the notion of an 'anti-companion' is one I find very interesting.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 10, 2017 19:12:59 GMT
I'm guessing Retail Therapy is set after The Long Game. Possibly Adam Mitchell dealing with the trauma of the door in his head by going through therapy. The only thing that excites me about this announcement at the moment is Bruno Langley coming back as Adam. But is there a gap between Dalek and The Long Game? As ever with these things, I checked with Russell, and he confirmed there was room between Dalek and The Long Game for a few more trips... provided he didn't end up anywhere as overwhelming as Satellite 5, obviously. I can't wait to see what you do with Adam. It'll be interesting to see how he develops from the guy we meet in Dalek to the greedy, selfish person of The Long Game. I wonder if something could have happened inbetween those adventures that led Adam towards the 'anti-companion' position?
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 10, 2017 19:14:26 GMT
Great news about Bruno Langley and Ninth Doctor Chronicles. Not sure how to feel about Tenth Doctor Chronicles though because it probably means 10DA Volume 2 isn't happening. If the latter is true then that's a massive shock. I thought David Tennant would be extra keen to record a volume two. Eleventh Doctor Chronicles are cool too. I'm glad they're bringing back Adam because the notion of an 'anti-companion' is one I find very interesting. It might just mean that it isn't going to happen within the next year or two. I doubt that BF or Tennant have decided that they are never going to do them again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 19:16:31 GMT
Damn you Big Finish Just when my wallet had thought it had recovered, you come in and beat it up again for its money lol So Nick will have voiced 5 Doctors on audio now once these are finished (7, War, 9, 10 AND 11) I'm pretty sure he's done all Bar 11 now. Most of them in Short Trips vol 3 in a multi Doctor story.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 10, 2017 19:30:36 GMT
Great news about Bruno Langley and Ninth Doctor Chronicles. Not sure how to feel about Tenth Doctor Chronicles though because it probably means 10DA Volume 2 isn't happening. If the latter is true then that's a massive shock. I thought David Tennant would be extra keen to record a volume two. Eleventh Doctor Chronicles are cool too. I'm glad they're bringing back Adam because the notion of an 'anti-companion' is one I find very interesting. It might just mean that it isn't going to happen within the next year or two. I doubt that BF or Tennant have decided that they are never going to do them again. I hope it happens before 2018. I can't wait that long for more David Tennant! I'm too impatient.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 19:47:15 GMT
I think the very existence of these releases is proof that full cast stories with any of the New Series Doctors are off the table for the foreseeable future.
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Post by aztec on Feb 10, 2017 19:48:48 GMT
It might just mean that it isn't going to happen within the next year or two. I doubt that BF or Tennant have decided that they are never going to do them again. I hope it happens before 2018. I can't wait that long for more David Tennant! I'm too impatient. Put yourself in a Classic Who fan's shoes, three years is nothing compared to 16!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 20:03:10 GMT
<Sigh...>
As if Nick was not doing enough already. While it is frustrating seeing everything being organised around the new series releases (even passion projects of Nick Briggs himself), as @paz said, it is unacceptable once they have allowed people to preorder it. @paz if you are a whinging customer, it is completely justified.
I'm disappointed that they've seemed to go down the narration route rather than the Companion Chronicles route. If they wanted to go that way I would have preferred eight Short Trips instead. Do new series audiences care so much about 60-minute episode lengths? Or is it Big Finish using their standard 4-disc box set with one story per disc?
Oh, well. I'll wait for the reviews and remember that the second two sets don't release until 2018 (and that the £55 pre-order bundle price lasts until the final set is released).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 20:03:27 GMT
In light of this can anyone remind us why they ended the Companion Chronicles but started releasing Short Trips instead? I'm not sure how poor sales on the CCs would justify restarting the Short Trips range, except for the difference between a £12 and £3 price point.
(Side note: when Short Trips are only half the length, how does Big Finish get away with charging quarter the price? Surely that means the Short Trips are under-priced or CCs are overpriced? And if the former how does Big Finish justify bringing Sheridan Smith back for two Short Trips 5 years after her exit story?)
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 10, 2017 21:24:17 GMT
I am not trying to be negative but this feels like a step backwards to me. I'm really not interested in the enhanced or hybrid Companion Chronicles style storytelling used with the Early Adventures or Churchill ranges and it really doesn't hold any interest for New Series Doctors either. Unless reviews come back as glowing, this will likely be a pass for me.
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Post by Polar Bear on Feb 10, 2017 21:38:52 GMT
I'm buying them. All of them.
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Post by Whovitt on Feb 10, 2017 21:39:33 GMT
I'm surprised by how mixed the reactions to this announcement have been. My thoughts on the situation are this: 1. Big Finish have only ever recast roles when the original actor could not or did not ever wish to return to the role. To recast, then have the original actor decide to join up later down the line, *could* be seen as slightly offensive. This way it can't look "incriminating" in that each Doctor has been covered by the same person. The fact that it is Nick is pretty irrelevant. This brings me to my next point; 2. If it wasn't Nick, they'd still need to use the same person for each set, as I've outlined is point 1. Nick is a relatively well known name in most Doctor Who circles, and though he is a busy man who seems to be in just about everything, if he can do the job, I say let him do it! 3. I think it's reasonably clear at this point why we aren't getting Companion Chronicles style releases; judging by the guest cast in this, Billie Piper does not appear to be involved with Big Finish, which makes it quite difficult to make an extensive range of Ninth Doctor and early Tenth Doctor stories (unless they were to use Camille Coduri or Noel Clarke; John Barrowman would also work, but with both Torchwood and The Lives of Captain Jack, he may feel he's doing enough at the moment). Nick also said in a podcast (about six months or so ago I think) that Freema Agyeman had been approached and also said she wasn't interested in reprising Martha at the moment. This leaves Catherine Tate to cover the Tenth Doctor era and, while I doubt too many people would complain about a Donna Chronicles box set, Big Finish like to provide more variety than that. In short, I think these releases are the best way to get new stories featuring these Doctors out there. In time I expect we'll get Companion Chronicles as new people agree to come back, but until then I think these will be a good way to get back into these Doctors' eras
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