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Post by acousticwolf on Mar 23, 2017 16:30:42 GMT
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Guys and gals, this thread is heading on a highway to nowhere. It has gone way off topic and recent posts are of a very sensitive nature. Now is the time to leave it alone and move on before sanctions need to be taken. This thread is about what we think 13's first series should contain and what we would like to see, not what must happen because I want it.
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Post by doomlord on Mar 23, 2017 16:44:28 GMT
My young nephew at the time, adored playing with his Robin Hood action figures from the popularly received BBC Wales family drama. Not once did he feel the need to bring in an alien figure to muck up the historical status quo, neither did BBC Wales for that matter.
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Post by relativetime on Mar 23, 2017 18:02:03 GMT
Look at something like Indiana Jones, it flirted with the occult but the real baddies? Nazis or Thugees. And, believe me, every kid I grew up with loved Indiana Jones. Adventure, fun, OTT villains....yet it didn't need monsters. Until number 4 but we don't talk about that. WHY did you have to remind me of that movie? Did I get up and pee in your Wheaties this morning? Have some respect, dag nabit. First movie that ever really made me cry, I mean cry, like a friend had died, man that was bad... That was actually my first Indiana Jones movie, I think. And it was bad enough that my dad felt like he had to go out and buy the first film to show me that, yes, Indiana Jones is actually absolutely amazing - just not the fourth one.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 23, 2017 20:54:08 GMT
Even if your talking solely in Show universe terms they're just as Bad, their ideology is one of the worst the Human Race has ever produced!
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They are the worst HUMAN thing to happen to humanity in-universe but the Daleks are so bad they are worse than the Nazis. That's what makes them so scary. Incorrect, I remember a story (one of the books I think) the Doctor discusses this very thing - the Daleks have no choice but to be Daleks, the Nazis had a choice and chose to be Nazis. In the Doctors mind, so literally at the heart of the morality of the show, the Doctor considers the Nazis to be worse than the Daleks because they chose to be evil.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 23, 2017 21:11:45 GMT
They are the worst HUMAN thing to happen to humanity in-universe but the Daleks are so bad they are worse than the Nazis. That's what makes them so scary. Incorrect, I remember a story (one of the books I think) the Doctor discusses this very thing - the Daleks have no choice but to be Daleks, the Nazis had a choice and chose to be Nazis. In the Doctors mind, so literally at the heart of the morality of the show, the Doctor considers the Nazis to be worse than the Daleks because they chose to be evil. For the love of God!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 23, 2017 21:16:01 GMT
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Mar 23, 2017 21:30:23 GMT
Dalek, autism doesn't excuse cheek. You should know better.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 23, 2017 21:33:21 GMT
Dalek, autism doesn't excuse cheek. You should know better. It's not intended to be cheeky, it's just a joke. I'm sure acousticwolf sees the funny side.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Mar 23, 2017 21:35:58 GMT
The main thing I'd want, which I've heard we're getting, is a Writer's Room. In addition, more time to refine scripts. More communication between the writers, and their goals, to make stories that compliment each-other, and flow well through a single Series, be it episodic, with an arc, or just more cohesive, especially with the characterisation of Companions. That'd be something. Also, since we don't know yet who Chibnall will hire... I wouldn't mind if we got an all new writing staff, with no ties to the Wilderness years. Get some fresh perspective.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Mar 23, 2017 22:35:43 GMT
Incorrect, I remember a story (one of the books I think) the Doctor discusses this very thing - the Daleks have no choice but to be Daleks, the Nazis had a choice and chose to be Nazis. In the Doctors mind, so literally at the heart of the morality of the show, the Doctor considers the Nazis to be worse than the Daleks because they chose to be evil. For the love of God! Yes, God loves you, and you and you too...we so far off topic I couldn't help it...God forgive me, oh wait, He does...Y'all might not...made you laugh...or cuss...either way...hope they don't lock this thread, it's a good thread.with bad bad posters...like me...
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Mar 23, 2017 22:43:44 GMT
hope they don't lock this thread, it's a good thread.with bad bad posters...like me... Alright, alright, you boys have had your laugh. Now, let's get back to an actual discussion.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Mar 23, 2017 22:45:40 GMT
I certainly don’t want a repeat of Capaldi’s debut, where a mouthpiece of the author (Shame on you, Madame Vastra!) tells me that this new guy is the Doctor and I’d better get on in accepting him in the role. I rather like the idea of turning the circumstances of his regeneration into a mystery for the new Doctor. Start us off with the newly regenerated Thirteenth Doctor without explanation and slowly over the course of their debut, peel back each new layer with a series of clues and flashbacks until we see the pattern unfurl and the two points converge. Maybe even make it that the Doctor has jumped a time track and each are now responsible for maintaining the continuity of the other's death/birth. This idea has been bounced around a number of times. Would be surprised if we didn't some variant on it in the actual opener.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Mar 23, 2017 22:50:30 GMT
Yeah, I think New Who should take some time off on making series long arcs, which I don't think has ever been pulled off perfectly, and instead focus more on character arcs. While an interesting thought, don't think it'll happen. Most fantasy-adventure shows nowadays have a major thematic or narrative thread to make the viewer feel like they've gained something by the end, and encourage more stable viewing figures ep to ep if they have to watch episodes with subject matter they would not normally care for because it may give them more clues to the bigger picture, mystery or otherwise.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Mar 23, 2017 23:24:06 GMT
Yeah, I think New Who should take some time off on making series long arcs, which I don't think has ever been pulled off perfectly, and instead focus more on character arcs. While an interesting thought, don't think it'll happen. Most fantasy-adventure shows nowadays have a major thematic or narrative thread to make the viewer feel like they've gained something by the end, and encourage more stable viewing figures ep to ep if they have to watch episodes with subject matter they would not normally care for because it may give them more clues to the bigger picture, mystery or otherwise. Which is why I don't even watch the initial broadcast. I cant guarantee ill see the next one, so i'll just wait and buy the dvd collection, the only episodes Ive seen from the initial broadcast are the Christmas Specials and usually the first show of the season. After that, I don't make it a priority. I wonder, does BBC have an on demand service for Doctor Who nowadays?
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Post by relativetime on Mar 24, 2017 0:51:50 GMT
Yeah, I think New Who should take some time off on making series long arcs, which I don't think has ever been pulled off perfectly, and instead focus more on character arcs. While an interesting thought, don't think it'll happen. Most fantasy-adventure shows nowadays have a major thematic or narrative thread to make the viewer feel like they've gained something by the end, and encourage more stable viewing figures ep to ep if they have to watch episodes with subject matter they would not normally care for because it may give them more clues to the bigger picture, mystery or otherwise. Oh, I agree it's not likely to happen - the current formula is popular with the majority of fans, so it wouldn't make that much sense to change it up all of a sudden. I'm just a bit biased since I generally prefer Classic Who (which isn't to say I dislike New Who!), which doesn't typically have series long arcs. Still, even something as loosely connected as stories that all share a common theme would be interesting to see.
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Post by acousticwolf on Mar 24, 2017 9:46:40 GMT
I'd love to be in series 11 ... now who would I play? Cheers Tony
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 24, 2017 9:48:58 GMT
I'd love to be in series 11 ... now who would I play? Cheers Tony How about a male Romana?
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Post by bobod on Mar 24, 2017 9:58:33 GMT
I'd love to be in series 11 ... now who would I play? Cheers Tony How about a male Romana? *applause*
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Post by acousticwolf on Mar 24, 2017 10:04:46 GMT
I'm not good looking or clever enough ... but I do have the attitude Cheers Tony
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Post by kimalysong on Mar 24, 2017 10:11:44 GMT
I'd love to be in series 11 ... now who would I play? Cheers Tony We wouldn't want to lose you here though.
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