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Audible
Apr 16, 2017 17:29:13 GMT
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Post by acousticwolf on Apr 16, 2017 17:29:13 GMT
I finally decided to sign up for a trial of audible.co.uk. I know the quality isn't great (Alien: Out of the Shadows is 64kbps) but the main issue I have is the single file format for collections. I got Torchwood Tales at the same time and it's only one (or two files). I appreciate that they are protected by DRM (which has put me off in the past) but not having separate files for each story makes it quite difficult to find stories within the file to listen to (I don't use iTunes so don't get chapter marks and don't tend to listen to everything in one go).
Anyone know how to either split the files into individual stories or download the separate files? I can definitely see the benefits of using audible credits but the large single files is putting me off (as well as the DRM and quality).
Cheers
Tony
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Audible
Apr 16, 2017 18:33:45 GMT
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Post by brians on Apr 16, 2017 18:33:45 GMT
Listen using the audible app on your mobile and you get the chapter markers. It's a lovely app.
Or burn them to CD via itunes and you'll get the separate tracks on the discs and can then rip back into another format like mp3.
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Audible
Apr 16, 2017 19:33:41 GMT
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Post by acousticwolf on Apr 16, 2017 19:33:41 GMT
Listen using the audible app on your mobile and you get the chapter markers. It's a lovely app. Or burn them to CD via itunes and you'll get the separate tracks on the discs and can then rip back into another format like mp3. Cheers. Burning and re-ripping sounds like a pain but I'll give the app a go. Thanks Tony |
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Post by Stevo on Apr 16, 2017 20:14:21 GMT
Listen using the audible app on your mobile and you get the chapter markers. It's a lovely app. Or burn them to CD via itunes and you'll get the separate tracks on the discs and can then rip back into another format like mp3. Cheers. Burning and re-ripping sounds like a pain but I'll give the app a go. Definitely do, the app is brilliant. |
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Apr 16, 2017 20:22:35 GMT
Bloody Audible. "Sorry, mp3 isn't a viable option", what planet do they live on?
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Post by jasonward on Apr 16, 2017 20:44:41 GMT
Bloody Audible. "Sorry, mp3 isn't a viable option", what planet do they live on? Planet "What you buy from us is still ours to control." |
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Audible
Apr 16, 2017 21:00:56 GMT
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Post by brians on Apr 16, 2017 21:00:56 GMT
Bloody Audible. "Sorry, mp3 isn't a viable option", what planet do they live on? Planet "What you buy from us is still ours to control." Otherwise known as planet "five quid for the entire Sherlock Holmes, or one of many Big Finish boxsets, or eleven hours of 11th dr audiobooks" etc. The price of the product is ridiculously low, and to me at least makes it worth the effort. |
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Post by muckypup on Apr 16, 2017 21:25:40 GMT
Oh yes make sure you download the app for your phone and if you use Windows 10 that one too.
You can listen on your phone then on your PC without any problems......just set your Windows 10 app to streaming and it won't clutter up your hard drive either.
I understand why some feel the need to own a drm free file but to be honest, there ain't much need with smart phones these days, but there is commercial software out there for about £25 last time I looked that can remove drm and give you a clean MP3 or audiobook file.....but not sure how legal it is....but then ripping cd's & dvd's still ain't legal!
But to be honest....why bother......just how many times are you going to listen to that 35hour epic audiobook anyway.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Apr 16, 2017 21:33:27 GMT
Bloody Audible. "Sorry, mp3 isn't a viable option", what planet do they live on? Planet "What you buy from us is still ours to control." Well, I hope they've updated their terms because while it was a few years ago when I bought an audible file (I was getting the Hornet's Nest stuff) nowhere on their site did they say that mp3 was not supported. And I went through it carefully with their sales person (who wasn't helpful at all, while still being on the absolute legal side of polite and correct). Me expecting that the most popular audio format would be supported was somehow delusional of me it seemed. I'd like to say you missed my point, Jason, but I should have been clearer. |
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Apr 16, 2017 21:37:05 GMT
Planet "What you buy from us is still ours to control." Otherwise known as planet "five quid for the entire Sherlock Holmes, or one of many Big Finish boxsets, or eleven hours of 11th dr audiobooks" etc. The price of the product is ridiculously low, and to me at least makes it worth the effort. Personally I'll just wait and pay BF the extra because then they get the full price and can keep on working. To each their own though. |
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Audible
Apr 16, 2017 21:37:47 GMT
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Post by acousticwolf on Apr 16, 2017 21:37:47 GMT
I've always despised DRM and tend to only purchase DRM free stuff when I can (why I still do DVDs, Blu-Ray instead of downloads from the likes of BBC and Prime). I think that's why it's taken so long to try Audible.
I do take the point about 35 hour epic audiobook and while it could be worth it for cheap, large collections, I can't really see myself using the service regularly.
Cheers
Tony
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Post by jasonward on Apr 16, 2017 21:38:29 GMT
Planet "What you buy from us is still ours to control." Well, I hope they've updated their terms because while it was a few years ago when I bought an audible file (I was getting the Hornet's Nest stuff) nowhere on their site did they say that mp3 was not supported. And I went through it carefully with their sales person (who wasn't helpful at all, while still being on the absolute legal side of polite and correct). Me expecting that the most popular audio format would be supported was somehow delusional of me it seemed. I'd like to say you missed my point, Jason, but I should have been clearer. It seems I still don't get you. The reason they don't support MP3 is because they use DRM, and that DRM means that they can control when and how you listen to anything you purchase from them, and indeed they can even remove your ability to listen altogether. |
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Post by muckypup on Apr 16, 2017 21:44:08 GMT
Oh yeah and just in case you guys don't know, if you are an audible subscription member they are rolling out an extra new service called channels (although the name might change) not sure when it goes live but I am currently in a testing program for it and it gives lots of free shows, books and other stuff.....like unbelievable truth, short stories, exclusive crackanory tales, interviews, podcasts....
It's quite a good selection of stuff.
Also don't forget to have a look around for the free stuff they have, you can often find free stuff if you look under audible studios, some stuff is always free like crackanory is always free, some is time limited.......
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Apr 16, 2017 21:44:50 GMT
Well, I hope they've updated their terms because while it was a few years ago when I bought an audible file (I was getting the Hornet's Nest stuff) nowhere on their site did they say that mp3 was not supported. And I went through it carefully with their sales person (who wasn't helpful at all, while still being on the absolute legal side of polite and correct). Me expecting that the most popular audio format would be supported was somehow delusional of me it seemed. I'd like to say you missed my point, Jason, but I should have been clearer. It seems I still don't get you. The reason they don't support MP3 is because they use DRM, and that DRM means that they can control when and how you listen to anything they purchase from them, and indeed they can even remove your ability to listen altogether. No. When I was buying literally NOWHERE on their site did they say that mp3 was not one of the options available, nowhere, nor was DRM lauded. It was just Audible's brilliant books and stories on audio with a full range of file types to choose from. That was my point. And I'd like to think they fixed that because I bought Hornet's Nest 1, couldn't play it, carefully went through the website, had a chat with sales and went through it again. You don't advertise a full range of et cetera when the most popular one on the damn planet isn't there, and no, at that point in time they were not going on about DRM. And when you can link directly from buying mp3s et cetera on Amazon straight into Audible that to me was disingenuous. And you know, if they had at any point said what you said, on site or even to me, rather than it is not our policy to use mp3, then I'd have been happier about that. |
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Post by muckypup on Apr 16, 2017 22:02:24 GMT
I've always despised DRM and tend to only purchase DRM free stuff when I can (why I still do DVDs, Blu-Ray instead of downloads from the likes of BBC and Prime). I think that's why it's taken so long to try Audible. I do take the point about 35 hour epic audiobook and while it could be worth it for cheap, large collections, I can't really see myself using the service regularly. Cheers Tony You wait and see, if it's dramas you want then yes I don't see it's really for you.....but if you listen to audiobooks, well it gets addictive as it makes listening to them so much easier than it was when they were on cd and cassette. granted I have been a member for a long time now (long before the "evil" Amazon bought them) but my library has over 1500 titles! i find myself listening to everything from scarlet Moffat & Ryan Clark to the brontes & Dickens with everything in between. dont forget to check out the daily deal where they have titles from 99p to £2.99 also the monthly deals section which is often overlooked they have stuff at a £5 from a particular author or genre.......they have had James Herbert, terry pratchett, Stephen King & even doctor who books over the last few months or so. ok enough promo for audible now |
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Audible
Apr 17, 2017 5:57:33 GMT
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Post by brians on Apr 17, 2017 5:57:33 GMT
I've always despised DRM and tend to only purchase DRM free stuff when I can (why I still do DVDs, Blu-Ray instead of downloads from the likes of BBC and Prime). I think that's why it's taken so long to try Audible. I do take the point about 35 hour epic audiobook and while it could be worth it for cheap, large collections, I can't really see myself using the service regularly. Cheers Tony I think you might be conflating two issues. DVD's etc still have DRM. It does annoy me that BBC Store won't let you burn a backup DVD. I strongly believe that however you purchase an item you should be allowed a way to make it free from their software/server support. However DRM is the thing restricting that, not my primary concern. DRM on DVD's doesn't concern me as much because I have the physical article in my hand. It still annoys me though because I rip the stories to my media server and DRM makes it harder, if not impossible. |
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Audible
Apr 17, 2017 5:59:35 GMT
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Post by brians on Apr 17, 2017 5:59:35 GMT
It seems I still don't get you. The reason they don't support MP3 is because they use DRM, and that DRM means that they can control when and how you listen to anything they purchase from them, and indeed they can even remove your ability to listen altogether. No. When I was buying literally NOWHERE on their site did they say that mp3 was not one of the options available, nowhere, nor was DRM lauded. It was just Audible's brilliant books and stories on audio with a full range of file types to choose from. That was my point. And I'd like to think they fixed that because I bought Hornet's Nest 1, couldn't play it, carefully went through the website, had a chat with sales and went through it again. You don't advertise a full range of et cetera when the most popular one on the damn planet isn't there, and no, at that point in time they were not going on about DRM. And when you can link directly from buying mp3s et cetera on Amazon straight into Audible that to me was disingenuous. And you know, if they had at any point said what you said, on site or even to me, rather than it is not our policy to use mp3, then I'd have been happier about that. It really clearly lays out the ways you can listen to the titles though, and its clear from the details provided that, for example, you need to use their app to listen on mobile. |
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Apr 17, 2017 6:20:01 GMT
No. When I was buying literally NOWHERE on their site did they say that mp3 was not one of the options available, nowhere, nor was DRM lauded. It was just Audible's brilliant books and stories on audio with a full range of file types to choose from. That was my point. And I'd like to think they fixed that because I bought Hornet's Nest 1, couldn't play it, carefully went through the website, had a chat with sales and went through it again. You don't advertise a full range of et cetera when the most popular one on the damn planet isn't there, and no, at that point in time they were not going on about DRM. And when you can link directly from buying mp3s et cetera on Amazon straight into Audible that to me was disingenuous. And you know, if they had at any point said what you said, on site or even to me, rather than it is not our policy to use mp3, then I'd have been happier about that. It really clearly lays out the ways you can listen to the titles though, and its clear from the details provided that, for example, you need to use their app to listen on mobile. It may do now, it didn't then, that was my point. I'm not stating this again, no offence to anyone but I had thought it was pretty clear by now. I could have been mistaken, wouldn't be the first time, but I went through it with a customer service person at the time. |
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Post by Stevo on Apr 17, 2017 11:10:59 GMT
It really clearly lays out the ways you can listen to the titles though, and its clear from the details provided that, for example, you need to use their app to listen on mobile. I could have been mistaken, wouldn't be the first time, but I went through it with a customer service person at the time. I can believe that; Audible are great, their customer service no so much. Many a time I have had discussions with their customer service reps where I have plainly known more about audio and Audible releases than them. They just seemed to be reading off a prompt card asking the same generic questions. |
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Post by acousticwolf on Apr 18, 2017 13:15:06 GMT
I've always despised DRM and tend to only purchase DRM free stuff when I can (why I still do DVDs, Blu-Ray instead of downloads from the likes of BBC and Prime). I think that's why it's taken so long to try Audible. I do take the point about 35 hour epic audiobook and while it could be worth it for cheap, large collections, I can't really see myself using the service regularly. Cheers Tony I think you might be conflating two issues. DVD's etc still have DRM. It does annoy me that BBC Store won't let you burn a backup DVD. I strongly believe that however you purchase an item you should be allowed a way to make it free from their software/server support. However DRM is the thing restricting that, not my primary concern. DRM on DVD's doesn't concern me as much because I have the physical article in my hand. It still annoys me though because I rip the stories to my media server and DRM makes it harder, if not impossible. I don't really see them as the same thing as to play DVDs I don't have to use the suppliers pro priority software, but I take your point  . I agree wholeheartedly with the rest, which is what annoys me about "DRM" on books, audiobooks, music. I won't buy from the BBC store, Google Play (films), Amazon Prime Video etc because they do not allow you back up your purchases. It also annoys me that generally if I want to buy an mp3 album from Amazon, it's actually cheaper to buy the CD and rip it myself! Crazy ... Cheers Tony |
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. I agree wholeheartedly with the rest, which is what annoys me about "DRM" on books, audiobooks, music. I won't buy from the BBC store, Google Play (films), Amazon Prime Video etc because they do not allow you back up your purchases. It also annoys me that generally if I want to buy an mp3 album from Amazon, it's actually cheaper to buy the CD and rip it myself! Crazy ...