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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jul 4, 2017 18:25:38 GMT
I doubt he'd do three Doctor Who-related roles if he didn't like it. I think I kinda addressed why a jobbing actor would do just that....but as always you know best. I didn't mean it like that. I agree with what you say, but it's not like it's just one Who-related role. If he hadn't enjoyed his time filming those parts and he hadn't been happy with production politics as with Christopher Eccleston I doubt we would have seen him as either William Hartnell in An Adventure In Space And Time or as the First Doctor in the closing moments of The Doctor Falls.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jul 4, 2017 18:26:00 GMT
I'd imagine he's a reasonably big fan of being employed more than anything. He's a working actor, getting 3 big prime time parts I'm sure is more of a consideration than his own likes or dislikes. Not saying he's not a fan - I have no idea - but there are plenty of actors who've been companions (and even Doctors) who don't care terribly much for the show. And fair enough - it's a job for them. He seems a very nice man from interviews and what I've heard second-hand from people. I doubt he'd do three Doctor Who-related roles if he didn't like it. You really are not able to wrap your brain around the concept of business, are you? Actors want to work. It is what puts food on the table and a roof over their heads. Yes there are better jobs than others and yes they may be parts and genres you like but at the end of the day it is a paying gig. And a high profile one. Liking Doctor Who would be the least of most actor's process in taking on a part.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jul 4, 2017 18:31:17 GMT
I doubt he'd do three Doctor Who-related roles if he didn't like it. You really are not able to wrap your brain around the concept of business, are you? Actors want to work. It is what puts food on the table and a roof over their heads. Yes there are better jobs than others and yes they may be parts and genres you like but at the end of the day it is a paying gig. And a high profile one. Liking Doctor Who would be the least of most actor's process in taking on a part. Tom Baker and Christopher Eccleston both refused to return to Doctor Who for anniversary specials despite being jobbing actors. Both had disagreements with the production during their time on the show. Colin Baker also refused to film a regeneration sequence with Sylvester McCoy.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jul 4, 2017 18:52:29 GMT
You really are not able to wrap your brain around the concept of business, are you? Actors want to work. It is what puts food on the table and a roof over their heads. Yes there are better jobs than others and yes they may be parts and genres you like but at the end of the day it is a paying gig. And a high profile one. Liking Doctor Who would be the least of most actor's process in taking on a part. Tom Baker and Christopher Eccleston both refused to return to Doctor Who for anniversary specials despite being jobbing actors. Both had disagreements with the production during their time on the show. Colin Baker also refused to film a regeneration sequence with Sylvester McCoy. Colin Baker had also been fired from the show and saw no need to help out the BBC usher in a new Doctor. As for Baker & Eccleston, you are looking at two very different cases. I'm sorry but your exceptions are not the rule. And I maintain you really don't understand the business part of show business.
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Post by aztec on Jul 4, 2017 18:58:23 GMT
Dalekbuster, do you ever sleep? Not taking the mickey or anything but I find it kinda ironic that you have the most posts on this forum and rarely comment on or review new (or old) BF releases. As for Bradley doing 1st Doctor audios...well I'm generally opposed to recasting and I've enjoyed the format of the few Companion Chronicles I've heard, but I can't vouch for how enjoyable or authentic the closer to full cast approach of the Early Adventures is, of Purves and Rusell I prefer Purves impression and I'd rather they continued using them in the role for as long as possible, Bradley is a great actor and I loved his performance as Hartnell in AAITAS, the 1st Doctor reenactments were less convincing...though in fairness they were much less prevalent in the script, with Bradley actually portraying the 1st Doctor for a whole story no doubt he has had more time to research and rehearse his 1st Doctor performance...so ask me in again in December! I must admit I am a tad uneasy with the idea that BF would market a run of new stories with Bradley starring as the Doctor based off the hype/interest from the show, for those not familiar with the Classic series would Bradley be seen as more of a replacement than recast?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 19:00:13 GMT
Good idea. It's worked well with the recast 3rd Doctor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 19:03:08 GMT
I must admit I am a tad uneasy with the idea that BF would market a run of new stories with Bradley starring as the Doctor based off the hype/interest from the show, for those not familiar with the Classic series would Bradley be seen as more of a replacement than recast? That's an interesting point of view, and one I hadn't considered. For my own part, I would like an - how could I put this - 'official' BF First Doctor. I'm surprised I feel this way, but since Tim Treloar has been so utterly brilliant as Doctor Three - and yet never attempting to replace Jon Pertwee (as if anyone could) - I'd feel the same way about David Bradley. I say this as a big fan of Hartnell. And if he were to bring in a few new listeners because of the wonderful idea to include him in modern TV stories, all the better. But I do take your point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 20:22:12 GMT
Truth be told if they want to keep doing audios of older characters then recasting is inevitable. David Bradley First Doctor audios could work well
The Novel Adpatations have ended now 'due to low sales' but Nicholas Briggs wanted to do the first Dalek novelisation with cast members from AAISAT - that could work under the Big Finish Classics banner?
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Post by barnabaslives on Jul 4, 2017 22:05:37 GMT
Probably a good thing it isn't up to me. I've very quickly developed quite a bit of loyalty to William Russell and Peter Purves' portrayals of The Doctor, and I still somehow have mixed feelings about Bradley - even after nearly being moved to tears by An Adventure in Space and Time and being very much inclined to accept that seniority just as I did with Jemma Powell, there's still a brief moment every time David turns up where I think he's come looking for Mrs. Norris. It's likely one of those good ideas that I wouldn't was a good idea if it bit me on the nose.
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Post by The Matt on Jul 4, 2017 22:08:32 GMT
I would happily accept David doing the 1st Doctor for BF if he has the interest of course.
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Post by agentten on Jul 4, 2017 22:15:40 GMT
I wonder if Big Finish might not actually be able to properly promote Bradley in the role simply because they might be hampered in marketing it by not being able to use images from his Doctor Who appearances on the covers and in other promotional material. While it's a Doctor BF have the rights to, a major selling point for using the Bradley version would be advertising it with new series elements that I don't think they could use until the license is extended.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jul 5, 2017 9:01:25 GMT
Dalekbuster, do you ever sleep? Funnily enough I have eight hours sleep every day, and I still wake up groggy!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jul 5, 2017 9:04:30 GMT
I wonder if Big Finish might not actually be able to properly promote Bradley in the role simply because they might be hampered in marketing it by not being able to use images from his Doctor Who appearances on the covers and in other promotional material. While it's a Doctor BF have the rights to, a major selling point for using the Bradley version would be advertising it with new series elements that I don't think they could use until the license is extended. They could just get David Bradley onboard and use William Hartnell images.
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Post by CookieMaster on Jul 5, 2017 9:52:02 GMT
If he's up for it, I'd buy them. Beyond that, we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by xlozdob on Jul 5, 2017 10:03:03 GMT
I wonder if Big Finish might not actually be able to properly promote Bradley in the role simply because they might be hampered in marketing it by not being able to use images from his Doctor Who appearances on the covers and in other promotional material. While it's a Doctor BF have the rights to, a major selling point for using the Bradley version would be advertising it with new series elements that I don't think they could use until the license is extended. They could just get David Bradley onboard and use William Hartnell images. That's what I was thinking; something similar to what they do in the 3DA range. But then, of course, David Bradley is a bigger actor than Tim Treloar and he has appeared on the TV series, so by using his image on the promotional material, they could use that pull. Or, who knows, maybe in the hypothetical contract, Bradley (or, more likely, his agent) specifically wants his image used. We'll see, if it's ever the case.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jul 5, 2017 10:18:22 GMT
They could just get David Bradley onboard and use William Hartnell images. That's what I was thinking; something similar to what they do in the 3DA range. But then, of course, David Bradley is a bigger actor than Tim Treloar and he has appeared on the TV series, so by using his image on the promotional material, they could use that pull. Or, who knows, maybe in the hypothetical contract, Bradley (or, more likely, his agent) specifically wants his image used. We'll see, if it's ever the case. I don't think it would matter either way so long as it was doable for BF with the license. It would just be so cool to hear First Doctor audios with David Bradley standing in for William Hartnell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 12:26:42 GMT
I would happily accept David doing the 1st Doctor for BF if he has the interest of course. Well as David Bradley has now played the 1st Doctor in a proper episode of Doctor Who on TV - which is as official as it gets - there isn't really a valid reason why he can't be an audio 1st Doctor for Big Finish one day.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jul 5, 2017 13:11:09 GMT
I would happily accept David doing the 1st Doctor for BF if he has the interest of course. I agree. If he does end up playing the First Doctor for Big Finish in the future I'd be more than happy. Until then Russell and Purves are perfect
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Post by mrperson on Jul 5, 2017 18:47:50 GMT
Has Bradley done any audio work before? Tbh Russell's version of the first Doctor was good enough for me, I haven't heard Purves' take so can't judge there. Purves is a much better than Russell. not that Russell is bad, but his doctor & narration voice are not that distinct. but I would be happy for a recast for 1st & 2nd docs, it works well for 3rd doc & would rather have full cast for all eras. we cannot bring them back to play the doctor as much as I would like too, so I can accept a stand in Funny... I feel the opposite way. To me, Russell sounds closer to Hartnell. Oh well. Anyway, I'd rather just stay with the people we have until one or both doesn't feel like doing it any more. Would be a bit odd to have three different people trying to sound like Hartnell....
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Post by bobod on Jul 5, 2017 19:09:24 GMT
It was discussed that the tv cast could do a version of the Dalek Books Curse you Novel Adaptations!!!! The book's written in the first person, from Ian's POV so while it would work fine in the Early Adventures format....I'm not sure why we'd need it. We've got the Hartnell and Cushing versions already. It's a lovely little read - I've got the 1965 Armada edition with The Doctor wearing a glorious red cape on the front - but what's different is mostly minutiae about Ian and Barbara's backstory. The story itself isn't changed enough to need an adaptation. New adventures? Sign me up, but adapting stuff we all own already seems a niche of a niche. I'm not sure this was ever really a go-er. And we've got the William Russell version, which is terrific. But I've always seen Nick's reasoning of getting the AIS&T cast to do the novelisation. There's a pleasing rightness to the double wrongness.
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