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Post by number13 on Jul 18, 2017 6:55:05 GMT
"Och, did he noo ken the times we helped the Doctor together? Fighting yon Macra beasties - and on Atlantis - and the Cybermen on the Moon! (Och the Piper, the Piper!!)" "Don' look like it me old haggis! Blimey, some geezer at the Beeb wipes yer tapes and they forgets you me and Pol was ever wiv the Doc! Typical, innit!" "Now Ben, don't be so rude! It was a long time ago, you can't expect everyone to remember us all the time." "Alright Duchess, keep yer 'air on! Come on Jamie, let's see where 'e's landed us this time..."  I fell off my chair dying with laughter.  Of course! Ben, Jamie and Polly, I should've realised! So pleased you enjoyed it!  It was only for a short time the three were together and of course in half (?) of those stories Ben and Jamie were sharing lines because Jamie hadn't been part of the original script, so I think you were right, the dynamic hasn't really been explored. |
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Post by aztec on Jul 18, 2017 8:26:34 GMT
Let's finally have a talking cabbage! I'd rather they didn't bring back Adric personally  |
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Post by number13 on Jul 18, 2017 8:49:29 GMT
Let's finally have a talking cabbage! I'd rather they didn't bring back Adric personally I thought it, but was too kind to say it... still, it's the thought that counts! (Yet another character given a much better second life by BF.) |
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Post by aztec on Jul 18, 2017 8:59:17 GMT
I'd rather they didn't bring back Adric personally I thought it, but was too kind to say it... still, it's the thought that counts! (Yet another character given a much better second life by BF.) Matthew Waterhouse seems like a really nice guy, and his performance in the 5th Doctor boxset/Cold Fusion was great (even with the weird out of breath floaty voice he used for Adric, that took some time to get used to, admittedly his voice has changed massively since 1982 perhaps it's the closest he could get)...but the level of his acting on most of the TV stories remains...questionable i.m.o, yes he was very inexperienced and young at the time so you have to give him some leeway, but I did wonder how he actually got such an important role with so little experience... Having said that, I'm an much worse actor myself... |
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Post by omega on Jul 18, 2017 9:17:18 GMT
I thought it, but was too kind to say it... still, it's the thought that counts! (Yet another character given a much better second life by BF.) Matthew Waterhouse seems like a really nice guy, and his performance in the 5th Doctor boxset/Cold Fusion was great (even with the weird out of breath floaty voice he used for Adric, that took some time to get used to, admittedly his voice has changed massively since 1982 perhaps it's the closest he could get)...but the level of his acting on most of the TV stories remains...questionable i.m.o, yes he was very inexperienced and young at the time so you have to give him some leeway, but I did wonder how he actually got such an important role with so little experience... Having said that, I'm an much worse actor myself... This was in the 80's when the show wasn't as popular. Maybe JNT saw some mileage in getting a huge fan to be a companion (Matthew got a letter published in Doctor Who Weekly), and to be fair Adric and the Fourth Doctor did work well together. I still maintain a season on audio with Tom and Matthew would be more interesting than another Leela season or with plucky contemporary female companion number whatever. It was only when the Doctor became vulnerable and they were joined by another alien orphan and a mouth on legs that Adric's role both as a mathematician and a foil to the Doctor became redundant. It didn't help the TARDIS environment was becoming very dysfunctional family, with the four being at odds with each other. |
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jul 18, 2017 10:07:19 GMT
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Post by number13 on Jul 18, 2017 10:33:05 GMT
For the new Doctor's companions, maybe an adventurous young human couple but not from present-day Earth for once, maybe from a few decades back so they understand technology but have a lot more to discover.
The Doctor may be regenerating at the South Pole with the First Doctor somewhere nearby, simultaneously undergoing his own first regeneration. And we know who he was travelling with.
If so, would it be too far-fetched to think that the same Time Lord regenerating twice in the same place at the same time might fracture the timelines somehow?
So that both Doctors could leave with Polly and Ben...? (Serious suggestion. It's not unheard of to have two actors simultaneously playing the same character in different media.)
'Oh Ben! Do you think this is the Doctor?'
'Blimey!!!' (etc.)
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Post by aztec on Jul 18, 2017 12:02:49 GMT
Matthew Waterhouse seems like a really nice guy, and his performance in the 5th Doctor boxset/Cold Fusion was great (even with the weird out of breath floaty voice he used for Adric, that took some time to get used to, admittedly his voice has changed massively since 1982 perhaps it's the closest he could get)...but the level of his acting on most of the TV stories remains...questionable i.m.o, yes he was very inexperienced and young at the time so you have to give him some leeway, but I did wonder how he actually got such an important role with so little experience... Having said that, I'm an much worse actor myself... This was in the 80's when the show wasn't as popular. Maybe JNT saw some mileage in getting a huge fan to be a companion (Matthew got a letter published in Doctor Who Weekly), and to be fair Adric and the Fourth Doctor did work well together. I still maintain a season on audio with Tom and Matthew would be more interesting than another Leela season or with plucky contemporary female companion number whatever. It was only when the Doctor became vulnerable and they were joined by another alien orphan and a mouth on legs that Adric's role both as a mathematician and a foil to the Doctor became redundant. It didn't help the TARDIS environment was becoming very dysfunctional family, with the four being at odds with each other. Yeah an season with 4 and Adric would be great (though I think there's room for more, Adric notes how much he'll miss Romana, suggesting they had been travelling together for a while and there's no indication that Logopolis follows immediately after Keeper Of Traken for the Doctor and Adric) |
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Post by glynnlondon on Jul 19, 2017 9:44:40 GMT
Maybe we could get a turlough type companion to try to bump her off.
That would unite all of fandom both for snd against and get the viewing figures up even higher !
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Post by omega on Jul 19, 2017 9:59:27 GMT
I know Douglas Adams didn't know much about regeneration when he wrote Destiny of the Daleks, but it did introduce the concept of a Time Lord regenerating into something distinctly non-human looking. I think it's worth exploring with other Time Lords about regenerating into a form that isn't humanoid. One of the audios did this (regenerating into a humanoid-avian form), but it's a concept that's never been brought up again to my knowledge.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 10:05:20 GMT
I know Douglas Adams didn't know much about regeneration when he wrote Destiny of the Daleks, but it did introduce the concept of a Time Lord regenerating into something distinctly non-human looking. I think it's worth exploring with other Time Lords about regenerating into a form that isn't humanoid. One of the audios did this (regenerating into a humanoid-avian form), but it's a concept that's never been brought up again to my knowledge. "I might have two heads, or no head".  |
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Post by omega on Jul 19, 2017 10:06:34 GMT
I know Douglas Adams didn't know much about regeneration when he wrote Destiny of the Daleks, but it did introduce the concept of a Time Lord regenerating into something distinctly non-human looking. I think it's worth exploring with other Time Lords about regenerating into a form that isn't humanoid. One of the audios did this (regenerating into a humanoid-avian form), but it's a concept that's never been brought up again to my knowledge. "I might have two heads, or no head". A Time Lord regenerating into a Barcelonian. A dog with no nose! |
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Post by number13 on Jul 19, 2017 10:36:34 GMT
This was in the 80's when the show wasn't as popular. Maybe JNT saw some mileage in getting a huge fan to be a companion (Matthew got a letter published in Doctor Who Weekly), and to be fair Adric and the Fourth Doctor did work well together. I still maintain a season on audio with Tom and Matthew would be more interesting than another Leela season or with plucky contemporary female companion number whatever. It was only when the Doctor became vulnerable and they were joined by another alien orphan and a mouth on legs that Adric's role both as a mathematician and a foil to the Doctor became redundant. It didn't help the TARDIS environment was becoming very dysfunctional family, with the four being at odds with each other. Yeah an season with 4 and Adric would be great (though I think there's room for more, Adric notes how much he'll miss Romana, suggesting they had been travelling together for a while and there's no indication that Logopolis follows immediately after Keeper Of Traken for the Doctor and Adric) I think I may have said this on here before (so please yawn and move on if you've heard it ) but yes, I agree with the idea that they spent longer in E-space than we saw and also there's quite a long gap between Traken and Logopolis; when Nyssa arrives their mutual reactions seem as if much more than a day or two have passed. It would also explain some of Adric's later sulkiness (as in 'Earthshock'); he wouldn't miss his solo travels of discovery with the Fourth Doctor so much as he obviously does, if they hadn't spent quite a long and no doubt exciting time exploring together - probably with too many monsters for comfort, but all very interesting for a boy genius and his one-in-several-billions tutor! Maybe they wouldn't want to give us a full season, but I think a Fourth+Adric boxset would be a welcome addition to the range. (And my 1982 self has needed reviving after reading what I just typed! ) |
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Post by omega on Jul 19, 2017 10:43:39 GMT
Yeah an season with 4 and Adric would be great (though I think there's room for more, Adric notes how much he'll miss Romana, suggesting they had been travelling together for a while and there's no indication that Logopolis follows immediately after Keeper Of Traken for the Doctor and Adric) I think I may have said this on here before (so please yawn and move on if you've heard it ) but yes, I agree with the idea that they spent longer in E-space than we saw and also there's quite a long gap between Traken and Logopolis; when Nyssa arrives their mutual reactions seem as if much more than a day or two have passed. It would also explain some of Adric's later sulkiness (as in 'Earthshock'); he wouldn't miss his solo travels of discovery with the Fourth Doctor so much as he obviously does, if they hadn't spent quite a long and no doubt exciting time exploring together - probably with too many monsters for comfort, but all very interesting for a boy genius and his one-in-several-billions tutor! Maybe they wouldn't want to give us a full season, but I think a Fourth+Adric boxset would be a welcome addition to the range. (And my 1982 self has needed reviving after reading what I just typed! ) In The Invasion of E-Space Romana says they've spent months there, and in A Full Life Adric observes it was getting to the point where the Doctor and Romana thought they'd never find a CVE. Taking into account the long life span of a Time Lord that must have been a while. I'm surprised after all these years of Big Finish and we've only had two E-Space set stories. Big Finish hasn't even done Tharil War yet to show how Romana returned to N-Space. |
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Post by bobod on Jul 19, 2017 11:55:11 GMT
I thought it, but was too kind to say it... still, it's the thought that counts! (Yet another character given a much better second life by BF.) Matthew Waterhouse seems like a really nice guy, and his performance in the 5th Doctor boxset/Cold Fusion was great (even with the weird out of breath floaty voice he used for Adric, that took some time to get used to, admittedly his voice has changed massively since 1982 perhaps it's the closest he could get)...but the level of his acting on most of the TV stories remains...questionable i.m.o, yes he was very inexperienced and young at the time so you have to give him some leeway, but I did wonder how he actually got such an important role with so little experience... He auditioned. And impressed JNT, Bidmead and (IIRC) Barry Letts. JNT and Bidmead definitely both praised that audition.
The regard Matthew is held in by Dark Shadows fans (which they only can base on his DS audio performances) is so vastly different to the regard he's held in by (some) Doctor Who fans.
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Post by bobod on Jul 19, 2017 12:03:28 GMT
Some of these actors had been mooted for the role of The Doctor. Don't think they should be companion Budget wise if nothing else - no way does Ben Whishaw, Richard Ayoade or Rory Kinnear work for the kind of money Who pays the companion role. Imagine the furore if it became the case - and then became public - that the companion was being paid more than the Doctor simply because of the gender difference. |
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Post by mark687 on Jul 19, 2017 12:06:21 GMT
Budget wise if nothing else - no way does Ben Whishaw, Richard Ayoade or Rory Kinnear work for the kind of money Who pays the companion role. Imagine the furore if it became the case - and then became public - that the companion was being paid more than the Doctor simply because of the gender difference.
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Post by number13 on Jul 19, 2017 12:15:10 GMT
Budget wise if nothing else - no way does Ben Whishaw, Richard Ayoade or Rory Kinnear work for the kind of money Who pays the companion role. Imagine the furore if it became the case - and then became public - that the companion was being paid more than the Doctor simply because of the gender difference. They are moving towards transparency, which should help pay equality. Quite surprised by some of these names and numbers, less so by others. BBC pay: Who earns what?But this "does not include many stars paid through independent production companies." However something we do know now: "Drama Pay bracket: £200,000 - £249,999 Peter Capaldi - Dr Who" Excellent value, in my opinion. |
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Post by aztec on Jul 19, 2017 12:38:57 GMT
I know Douglas Adams didn't know much about regeneration when he wrote Destiny of the Daleks, but it did introduce the concept of a Time Lord regenerating into something distinctly non-human looking. I think it's worth exploring with other Time Lords about regenerating into a form that isn't humanoid. One of the audios did this (regenerating into a humanoid-avian form), but it's a concept that's never been brought up again to my knowledge. "I might have two heads, or no head". Random thought, but A timelord character with no head would prove an interesting challenge for Big Finish to work around in an audio drama... |
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Post by mrperson on Jul 19, 2017 13:07:57 GMT
I know Douglas Adams didn't know much about regeneration when he wrote Destiny of the Daleks, but it did introduce the concept of a Time Lord regenerating into something distinctly non-human looking. I think it's worth exploring with other Time Lords about regenerating into a form that isn't humanoid. One of the audios did this (regenerating into a humanoid-avian form), but it's a concept that's never been brought up again to my knowledge. Romana's regeneration - trying on the the blue body? I always thought that was a gag, harkening back to Tom's routine in picking outfits. |
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Of course! Ben, Jamie and Polly, I should've realised! 
