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Post by Bazoolium on Oct 22, 2017 22:41:27 GMT
I thought: 'oh, I wonder what the reaction on the DW facebook page is like' forgetting the horror that is that comment section. Don't go there people, don't. I couldn't help but peek - saw the first "Oh, an Asian and a black, the PC brigade will...." then didn't read any more and closed the window down. I'll leave people like that to the 20th century, pity them and move on. I don't know how anyone can have a reaction beyond 'oh, I liked them in that thing'. At least wait untill the trailer to hate them.
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Post by sherlock on Oct 22, 2017 22:54:10 GMT
I couldn't help but peek - saw the first "Oh, an Asian and a black, the PC brigade will...." then didn't read any more and closed the window down. I'll leave people like that to the 20th century, pity them and move on. I don't know how anyone can have a reaction beyond 'oh, I liked them in that thing'. At least wait untill the trailer to hate them. Oh you underestimate the hatred of the comment sections. They need nothing but a picture and a name of the cast to decide Chibnall doesn't know what he's doing or that the show's going to be put on hiatus again or that true fans will abandon it for Rick and Morty. All those based on actual comments.
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Post by stcoop on Oct 22, 2017 22:54:16 GMT
I know it's terribly superficial but I'm glad Jodie's not going back to her natural hair colour. After that iconic reveal it would have been stange for it to change.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 23:05:31 GMT
OK, I'll allow myself one attack on a racist troll...just one.
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Post by sherlock on Oct 22, 2017 23:07:35 GMT
OK, I'll allow myself one attack on a racist troll...just one. Why is it only possible to like a post once?
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Post by stcoop on Oct 22, 2017 23:12:40 GMT
I'm always baffled as to what it is that people like that actually like about the series. It's not as if it wasn't utterly liberal and left-wing before now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 23:20:34 GMT
I'm always baffled as to what it is that people like that actually like about the series. It's not as if it wasn't utterly liberal and left-wing before now. I have often wondered what racists or homophobes see in the show myself. It happens in Trek fandom too - Roddenberry aimed for diversity in 1966 yet in 2017 I read "there's hardly any straight white men on Discovery...." - what do fans like these get out of Trek and Who?
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 22, 2017 23:21:26 GMT
OK, I'll allow myself one attack on a racist troll...just one. Nice one. And what a forward looking cast.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 23:21:52 GMT
One thing I do love about Walsh is that people saying Capaldi was "too old".....Bradley as the companion is 2 years older than Capadli was when cast as The Doctor.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 23:24:50 GMT
I think my fave complaint I've seen tonight is Jodie "doesn't look imposing enough" with the others. That person must hate Troughton, McCoy or McGann if height is their biggest issue!
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 22, 2017 23:28:59 GMT
I'm always baffled as to what it is that people like that actually like about the series. It's not as if it wasn't utterly liberal and left-wing before now. I have often wondered what racists or homophobes see in the show myself. It happens in Trek fandom too - Roddenberry aimed for diversity in 1966 yet in 2017 I read "there's hardly any straight white men on Discovery...." - what do fans like these get out of Trek and Who? While I myself can't quite go that far in calling all the complainers that, I think that the ones that are blatantly go like this: All the self-congratulation of progressive politics, none of the responsbility or room sharing with other groups. They could be the 'good guy' and still have a show geared solely at them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 23:34:15 GMT
I have often wondered what racists or homophobes see in the show myself. It happens in Trek fandom too - Roddenberry aimed for diversity in 1966 yet in 2017 I read "there's hardly any straight white men on Discovery...." - what do fans like these get out of Trek and Who? While I myself can't quite go that far in calling all the complainers that, I think that are blatantly go like this: All the self-congratulation of progressive politics, none of the responsbility or room sharing with other groups. You could be the 'good guy' and still have a show geared solely at you. I'm not calling "all the complainers that" - just the racist or homophobic ones. Let's add the sexists too Someone can dislike Who for perfectly valid reasons (then we're not really talking about them at all)....but also for incredibly insidious ones based in outdated, backwards thinking. We don't have to look far for that and even less far for rampant sexism from some quarters recently, sadly.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Oct 22, 2017 23:40:09 GMT
I’m really chuffed about Bradley and Mandip, as I love them both so to me there couldn’t have been better choices. Though I’m not entirely sure on Tosin at this point as it could be one companion too many and he didn’t really wow me in Hollyoaks, so I’ve not got much to say about him until the series actually airs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 23:48:03 GMT
I can't see Bradley Walsh as a "Graham", I'm afraid. Kris Marshall looks more like a "Graham" #ChibnallMustGo
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Post by Shiny on Oct 23, 2017 0:13:10 GMT
I've never heard of Tosin Cole or Mandip Gill and I only know Bradley Walsh as a presenter, not an actor. So I really have no initial impressions. I'll wait until Series 11 airs and see whether I like them or not. This new era of Doctor Who could be brilliant, terrible or anywhere in between. All the new people coming in deserve the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Post by number13 on Oct 23, 2017 0:32:07 GMT
It speaks volumes about my TV viewing that I know absolutely nothing about any of the four actors except what I've read on here or the BBC site. That's great and just like the old days - Peter Davison was the first 'Doctor Who' lead (Doctor or companion) that I'd ever seen in another role - so in my young imagination they could all be their characters, not only play them. For me the new season will truly be the 'clean slate' it's obviously intended to be and I am ready to be amazed; I hope they 'go for it' in the most off-Earth, science-fiction spectacular way affordable. (I also hope the BBC has remembered that diversity in the UK includes regional diversity. Most people don't live in east London or indeed in the five or six major English cities. Towns and rural areas are also available - accents please! e.g. Clara from Blackpool, but she was the exception not the rule.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 0:42:59 GMT
(I also hope the BBC has remembered that diversity in the UK includes regional diversity. Most people don't live in east London or indeed in the five or six major English cities. Towns and rural areas and three other home nations are also available - accents please! e.g. Clara from Blackpool, but she was the exception.) Amy? Surely since RTD left, London and SE England companions have been the exception rather than the norm? Only Bill, really for one year out of seven. The other six years have been Scottish or Northern accents for the main companion.
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Post by dasmaniac on Oct 23, 2017 0:47:24 GMT
Ugh multiple companions. No thanks. There's simply not enough screen time for all these characters. Writers had a hard time with so many companions during the Fifth Doctor era and they had longer stories. And the companions in 80's Who were often written very generically and given little to do, New Who companions are arguably more dynaminc/plot heavy, will there be room for all 3 to have arcs in a 10 part series? and that screen time would come at a cost to Jodie's Doctor.
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Post by number13 on Oct 23, 2017 1:07:26 GMT
(I also hope the BBC has remembered that diversity in the UK includes regional diversity. Most people don't live in east London or indeed in the five or six major English cities. Towns and rural areas and three other home nations are also available - accents please! e.g. Clara from Blackpool, but she was the exception.) Amy? Surely since RTD left, London and SE England companions have been the exception rather than the norm? Only Bill, really for one year out of seven. The other six years have been Scottish or Northern accents for the main companion. See now I'm going to be inconsistent because Bill is easily my favourite companion of the entire new series! Plus Nardole, of course, but he's - different (and still not sure how but not from Earth anyway!) Yes, you're right, I am thinking of RTD's era because I drifted off during the Matt Smith years (mea culpa) and couldn't work out what was going on in those complex arcs when I dropped in occasionally - although I liked his Doctor when I saw him. So Amy/Rory mostly passed me by. For me new Who (pre-Capaldi) is Rose / Martha / Donna and all the 'family background' they brought with them, which I disliked, though I expect it was good for ratings and I liked Donna. And seemingly every other story set in modern London. And later, Danny Pink, who seriously got on my nerves with the unconvincing 'class friction' with the Doctor ('I don't like soldiers' 'I don't like toffs'). The Doctor is beyond all that. Which has left me with a strong aversion to any return to that kind of London-centric show. Probably they won't, but the last season was so magical I'm worried the easy route might be taken again. ('The Pope in my bedroom!', 'The house tried to eat me!' - that's the sort of Earth background I like in 'Doctor Who' )
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Post by newt5996 on Oct 23, 2017 1:55:44 GMT
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