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Post by tuigirl on Feb 25, 2023 13:57:49 GMT
Michelle Hurd is wonderful. She was fantastic with the fans during panels and autographs at last year's FedCon. She had kind word for everyone. She is an amazing advocate for neuro-diverse people like me since she herself has issues.
She brought hope and kindness to us all during some very personal chats.
And her performance as a broken person suffering from addiction is spot on and rooted in personal (family) experience.
So please take your unfounded negative opinion and attitude in this regard elsewhere. Calling her awful is uncalled for, nasty and shows that you have no clue.
My opinion is not unfounded. It is my opinion. I assume you have never said anything negative about an actor, writer etc? Anyway. Glad you are enjoying the show. Maybe. But just saying someone is "awful" without going into detail as to why, especially when this someone is so kind and supportive to many people out there, is just hurtful. Plain and simple. And it is unkind.
Hearing Michelle Hurd's own story and battle with being mistreated and sidelined because she also is neuro-diverse helps so many people, and it is brave and supportive that she is standing up and talking about these things. I know many people who would not have the guts.
Constructive criticism and discussion about why someone likes or dislikes something is healthy and I enjoy that, as you well know.
So well, you do not like her and you (I only can assume) do not like her interpretation of the character, but that just does not make her "awful".
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Post by Digi on Feb 25, 2023 19:02:25 GMT
First two episodes of PIC Season 3 were dynamite. Trying not to get my hopes up though -- same thing happened with seasons 1 and 2, and look how those turned out...
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Post by Kestrel on Feb 27, 2023 17:14:25 GMT
First two episodes of PIC Season 3 were dynamite. Trying not to get my hopes up though -- same thing happened with seasons 1 and 2, and look how those turned out... 'S why I wait til the season is over before watching -- then I can go into it knowing what to expect, and modulate my expectations accordingly. But even if it nosedived again, I'm still very happy just to see some new ships, even if most of 'em'll probably wind up being one-offs. That's the one thing that really sucks about digital effects -- models are faster and cheaper to build and shoot, so there's little reason to re-use them in subsequent series/eras. One of the best bits of worldbuilding Star Trek ever did (and it was probably accidental) was all the TMP-era ships they had kicking around in TNG and DS9. Meanwhile today we get a lovely ship like the Kerala and it's gone from the franchise forever before we even get a chance to properly appreciate it.
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Post by Star Platinum on Mar 2, 2023 22:40:47 GMT
Star Trek: Discovery to end after season 5 ca.startrek.com/news/to-our-dearest-disco-familyWhat a shame, it’s had its rough patches, but I’ve enjoyed this show. Plus it was the show that led us out of the twelve year trek drought. Respect where it is due. I hope at some point they’ll continue the 32nd century storyline.
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Post by timleschild on Mar 2, 2023 23:10:35 GMT
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Post by masterdoctor on Mar 2, 2023 23:15:44 GMT
Disappointed, because while it had a rocky start, I still find it to be a solid Star Trek show that gets major props for doing something different much like DS9 did so many years ago. I will say that the legacy Disco leaves behind is one of Star Trek being back in the conversation of Modern Sci-Fi, and while it and Picard are finishing up, we still have Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks and Prodigy doing well, and hopefully we have a new show on the horizon (giving Michelle Yeoh her own show would be a great idea for Paramount for sure.)
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Post by Star Platinum on Mar 3, 2023 0:12:08 GMT
Do you have anything constructive to contribute, or are you just here to be miserable?
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shutupbanks
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Mar 3, 2023 9:35:01 GMT
This has been rumoured for a while, but it’s still sad to have it confirmed. I’ve really enjoyed Discovery and found it a fantastic way to get my Trek back on. I didn’t like several aspects of it: the endless conversations in moments of peril was probably my least favourite thing about it, but it’s the only thing that I felt really strongly about and it’s a problem with a lot of other television, as is the decision to have the main character be the central point of the show, which a lot of Trek was guilty of, especially TOS.
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Post by The Brigadier on Mar 3, 2023 9:49:11 GMT
While you and I share a dislike of Star Trek : Discovery, it is clear that the show has found a path to follow in recent years and fans that enjoy following it. And that is how it should be. The old always eventually gives way to the new and I know I'm no longer in the age demographic that Paramount are targeting. It is what it is. In fact I agree with you on something else - you are perfectly entitled to have an opinion and express it. But likewise, so am I. With the show coming to an end all this one word comment achieves is to rub salt in the wound for those on the forum who do enjoy it. It provokes. Now, before you get all defensive I'm reasonably certain your entire reasoning for being on the Forum isn't to provoke a reaction, because if that was the case you'd be no better that an Internet troll. And I think you are too smart to be that stupid. After all, you set this account up months before you started posting here so I'd guess you were observing the interaction on here before commenting (oh, and by the way did you know that you started posting about ten days after a former forum member who shared an uncannily familiar writing style with you - JohnHurtDoctor - stopped? Small world eh?). I'm waffling. I'm certainly not telling you to change your opinions on things. I don't have that right. But maybe don't be surprised if with stating your opinions in the way you do, people start forming their own opinions about you. Have a good weekend.
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Post by Chakoteya on Mar 3, 2023 9:54:37 GMT
Star Trek: Discovery to end after season 5 ca.startrek.com/news/to-our-dearest-disco-familyWhat a shame, it’s had its rough patches, but I’ve enjoyed this show. Plus it was the show that led us out of the twelve year trek drought. Respect where it is due. I hope at some point they’ll continue the 32nd century storyline. Kind of relieved. That means that it'll get to UK and other country's free-to-view within a decade or so for everyone to watch and form opinions, not just subscribers. ( and thieves).
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Post by mark687 on Mar 3, 2023 10:44:46 GMT
Picard Series 3 EP 3
Frakes and McFadden finally get to do some Acting (seriously IMO the conversation is the best scene Beverly Crusher's ever had). Once again though I go against general feeling in finding the Ravi plot more engaging, the hint of Their involvement was clear from EP 1 given "everyone" seemed to be after Beverley and Jack, not keen on the new FX used for Them though.
Regards
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Post by timleschild on Mar 3, 2023 17:20:21 GMT
Picard s3e3. Enjoyable. Worf makes the Raffi plot watchable. Bringing back the Changelings was interesting, I wonder if Vadic is one also? But can someone turn on the lights?
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Post by timleschild on Mar 3, 2023 17:22:00 GMT
While you and I share a dislike of Star Trek : Discovery, it is clear that the show has found a path to follow in recent years and fans that enjoy following it. And that is how it should be. The old always eventually gives way to the new and I know I'm no longer in the age demographic that Paramount are targeting. It is what it is. In fact I agree with you on something else - you are perfectly entitled to have an opinion and express it. But likewise, so am I. With the show coming to an end all this one word comment achieves is to rub salt in the wound for those on the forum who do enjoy it. It provokes. Now, before you get all defensive I'm reasonably certain your entire reasoning for being on the Forum isn't to provoke a reaction, because if that was the case you'd be no better that an Internet troll. And I think you are too smart to be that stupid. After all, you set this account up months before you started posting here so I'd guess you were observing the interaction on here before commenting (oh, and by the way did you know that you started posting about ten days after a former forum member who shared an uncannily familiar writing style with you - JohnHurtDoctor - stopped? Small world eh?). I'm waffling. I'm certainly not telling you to change your opinions on things. I don't have that right. But maybe don't be surprised if with stating your opinions in the way you do, people start forming their own opinions about you. Have a good weekend. Sounds like you have been creeping on my account. Makes me feel uncomfortable tbh.
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Post by The Brigadier on Mar 3, 2023 20:06:36 GMT
While you and I share a dislike of Star Trek : Discovery, it is clear that the show has found a path to follow in recent years and fans that enjoy following it. And that is how it should be. The old always eventually gives way to the new and I know I'm no longer in the age demographic that Paramount are targeting. It is what it is. In fact I agree with you on something else - you are perfectly entitled to have an opinion and express it. But likewise, so am I. With the show coming to an end all this one word comment achieves is to rub salt in the wound for those on the forum who do enjoy it. It provokes. Now, before you get all defensive I'm reasonably certain your entire reasoning for being on the Forum isn't to provoke a reaction, because if that was the case you'd be no better that an Internet troll. And I think you are too smart to be that stupid. After all, you set this account up months before you started posting here so I'd guess you were observing the interaction on here before commenting (oh, and by the way did you know that you started posting about ten days after a former forum member who shared an uncannily familiar writing style with you - JohnHurtDoctor - stopped? Small world eh?). I'm waffling. I'm certainly not telling you to change your opinions on things. I don't have that right. But maybe don't be surprised if with stating your opinions in the way you do, people start forming their own opinions about you. Have a good weekend. Sounds like you have been creeping on my account. Makes me feel uncomfortable tbh. Nice try...if a little predictable. Though if we're going for honesty, apart from making me laugh out loud your response answered more than I think you realise. Thank you for that.
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Post by tuigirl on Mar 4, 2023 20:05:04 GMT
Star Trek Picard- episode 3 Nice exciting tense episode. I am still not so sure about the Picard family stuff- it still reminds me too much of Nemesis. However. Worf had all the best lines. I actually laughed out loud for the first time this week. This alone earns this episode my approval.
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Post by Digi on Mar 4, 2023 20:35:47 GMT
Star Trek: Discovery to end after season 5 ca.startrek.com/news/to-our-dearest-disco-familyWhat a shame, it’s had its rough patches, but I’ve enjoyed this show. Plus it was the show that led us out of the twelve year trek drought. Respect where it is due. I hope at some point they’ll continue the 32nd century storyline. It's time, honestly. I loved the first two seasons (particularly the second), but they've been recycling the same season-long fetch quest plot outline for a while now and it's gotten boring. It worked in season 2 because it was new (and because it was effectively SNW season 0), and they were kind of able to hide in season 3 because of the setting change, but doing it for a third time in season 4 was just tiresome. The shift to the 32nd century was a terrific idea, but at least IMO the show has largely squandered the opportunity that that change afforded them.
I'm grateful to the show for bringing Trek back to TV, I'll always have those first two seasons (and to an extent, the third) to be happy with, and I really enjoy a lot of the cast/characters, but by the end of season 4 it was pretty plain to me that the show has run its course.
Now the bigger thing moving forward: with both PIC and DIS coming to an end, that leaves SNW as the only live-action Trek still on TV -- so what comes next? The Section 31 show has been on the backburner long enough that I don't expect it to happen anymore. Likewise with the Starfleet Academy show, though I suppose there's still a shot at that happening if they do it in the 32nd century and spin it out of DIS (felt a bit like they were attempting this with Tilly in DIS S4).
Otherwise...what? Personally I feel like there's a golden opportunity to do a new, optimistic series in the early 25th century. The galaxy has been in rather a dark place for the last 20-30 years with the First Contact Borg attack, the Dominion War, Shinzon's coup, the Synth attack on Mars, the Romulan supernova, the Federation turning inward in the wake of those things for 15 years. With the Synth ban being lifted at the end of PIC season 1, and how things had changed by early season 2, it was starting to feel like the dawn of a new era. I feel like this is a really good place to do a new exploratory series with a TOS-like spirit of optimism; 'we're coming out of a bad place and forging a bright new future' sort of thing. You could even consider doing the same in the 32nd century for much the same reason.
I don't see them doing anything else in the TOS era, as you've already got TOS, two seasons of DIS, and SNW all playing in that timeframe. I don't think you can rewind to the ENT era, because at this point you sort of have a meta version of the problem that the original show faced. ENT with the production quality of the early 2000s had to be modern but also somehow be more primitive than TOS in the 1960s, now you'd have to have a show with the production quality of the 2020s feel in line with a show from the 00s which itself had to feel more primitive than the 1960s. I just don't think that works.
I also don't think you can really do a show about Starfleet's era of temporal power. For one thing, hard to do that without it just becoming Doctor Who. For another, difficult to write a Time War coherently at all (and again similarity with Doctor Who). But just on a basic practical level it'd be an enormous financial challenge to create all the costumes and sets and VFX assets for different species across different eras of the Trek universe from week to week.
One thing I'd be really interested in seeing is them finally depicting the Lost Era. Show me a galaxy where the Enterprise-B (and later, -C) is flying around, where the Excelsior is still active, the Leondegrance is under Captain Uhura, the Stargazer is out there doing its thing with a very young Picard. A galaxy where the Klingon-Federation peace is new and tenuous but ultimately going to work out, where the Tomed Incident happens and the Treaty of Algeron is forged, and so on and so on. Realistically I'm not sure there's a huge market demand for it so I don't expect them to do it, but I'd really like to see it.
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Post by Kestrel on Mar 4, 2023 21:32:57 GMT
I wonder if they'll replace it with another new show. A Next Next Generation, maybe? That could certainly be something they're building to with PIC, and would give them an excuse to keep using all these new starship models they have now.
I can't say I'm sad to see Disco go -- for me it's a show that's been far more miss than hit -- but I will miss some of the characters. They really had a great cast there.
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Post by timleschild on Mar 4, 2023 21:36:43 GMT
I wonder if they'll replace it with another new show. A Next Next Generation, maybe? That could certainly be something they're building to with PIC, and would give them an excuse to keep using all these new starship models they have now. I can't say I'm sad to see Disco go -- for me it's a show that's been far more miss than hit -- but I will miss some of the characters. They really had a great cast there. New show with Jack Crusher.
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Post by tuigirl on Mar 4, 2023 22:02:58 GMT
I wonder if they'll replace it with another new show. A Next Next Generation, maybe? That could certainly be something they're building to with PIC, and would give them an excuse to keep using all these new starship models they have now. I can't say I'm sad to see Disco go -- for me it's a show that's been far more miss than hit -- but I will miss some of the characters. They really had a great cast there. I personally would not say no to a spy action drama featuring Jeri Ryan and Michelle Hurd..... and include Worf for the jokes.
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Post by tuigirl on Mar 4, 2023 22:07:10 GMT
I wonder if they'll replace it with another new show. A Next Next Generation, maybe? That could certainly be something they're building to with PIC, and would give them an excuse to keep using all these new starship models they have now. I can't say I'm sad to see Disco go -- for me it's a show that's been far more miss than hit -- but I will miss some of the characters. They really had a great cast there. New show with Jack Crusher. I don't know... so far, I do not find him very likeable (but I admit that Picard does not have a lot going for him, either, the way he treads the women in his life....) and he reminds me a lot of early new-timeline Kirk in the new movies, and for me, Kirk was the weakest link in these movies.
Karl Urban was fantastic, however.
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