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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 13, 2016 23:28:51 GMT
I think that format could be a good and a bad thing. On the one hand, we get to see a much greater variety of the Star Trek universe than we've ever seen before. On the other hand, it may be harder to relate to the characters if we only know them for a single season. I'm still super excited though.
What other eras do you think they should show. I'm hoping for the Romulan War/beginning of the Federation and the Cardassian War. A season set before first comtact, featuring only aliens might be cool too. And I hope that we see the universe after Nemesis at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 23:39:55 GMT
My dream would be seeing Captain Morgan Bateson. I love his episode cameo in TNG and Ship Of The Line is a favourite book of mine. Kelsey Grammer as a Captain out of time, I'd be ALL over that.
The possibilities are huge and since it could jump around so much, cameos from certain actors from past series wouldn't be as egregious as it would shoehorning them into a completely wrong timespan.
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Post by The Matt on Apr 14, 2016 3:04:56 GMT
Hmmmmmmm, not sure if I'm totally in love with this idea to be honest. I like the time to get to know a crew and become attached. I'll still watch but it has dimmed my excitement a tad I think
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 3:38:36 GMT
I think one season can be plenty of time to get to know and appreciate an ensemble. I'm even thinking of great TV shows where after that first year you already feel completely attached. The Wire, Sopranos, Firefly all spring to mind. I think with writers knowing they have limited runs there'll be less padding. No Ensign Ro or Tasha Yars for example where it felt like "We'll give them a character next year.." seemed to be the idea (both of course never getting a second year).
Another upside of this? If you dislike Season 1, there's no reason why any of the followups wouldn't appeal. We won't be lumbered with a bad show if they don't knock it out the park first time.
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Post by agentten on Apr 14, 2016 4:24:29 GMT
The anthology idea is interesting. There are plenty of opportunities for good stories spanning unexplored Star Trek lore. The time immediately following the Khitomer peace accord and its brave new world, for example, I've always felt is ripe with story potential.
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 14, 2016 13:30:59 GMT
Another upside of this? If you dislike Season 1, there's no reason why any of the followups wouldn't appeal. We won't be lumbered with a bad show if they don't knock it out the park first time. Well, if season 1 isn't good, there may not be any later seasons. Hopefully, this show will break the pattern of the first season of a Star Trek spin off being weak.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 13:48:28 GMT
Well we obviously both hope it's good but TV doesn't need to be good to get a second season, only popular. God knows some total crap seems to get on air for year and years...
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 14, 2016 15:11:14 GMT
Well we obviously both hope it's good but TV doesn't need to be good to get a second season, only popular. God knows some total crap seems to get on air for year and years... Good point. Let's hope its good, and gets good ratings.
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Post by iank on Apr 16, 2016 22:07:03 GMT
It certainly sounds more appealing than it would if it had been set in the Abrams moronoverse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 23:51:40 GMT
I like the Abrams films but they are just not, in any way, Star Trek. It is, however, commercially successful which later Braga/Berman Trek wasn't so it keeps the franchise ticking.
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 17, 2016 0:13:28 GMT
It certainly sounds more appealing than it would if it had been set in the Abrams moronoverse. The Abrams timeline is fine. The original timeline is infinitely better though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 0:25:44 GMT
It certainly sounds more appealing than it would if it had been set in the Abrams moronoverse. The Abrams timeline is fine. The original timeline is infinitely better though. Well... The original timeline has The Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country. I've always thought that those two Abrams films would have been terrific if they'd been Star Trek inspired. It's like the exact opposite of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, I think people would have been a lot more generous to the Trek films if they'd gone the route of Mass Effect and decided that was going to be a completely new franchise with new rules that took its cue from an old classic.
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 17, 2016 0:47:51 GMT
The Abrams timeline is fine. The original timeline is infinitely better though. Well... The original timeline has The Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country. The Abrams timeline sort of has Wrath of Khan.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 1:09:28 GMT
Well... The original timeline has The Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country. The Abrams timeline sort of has Wrath of Khan. And The Undiscovered Country... ish. Into Darkness feels more like their interpretation of Space Seed, the original Khan episode, rather than their take on Star Trek II. I actually thought Into Darkness was a bit of a critique on where Trek had gone over the last couple of years, it wasn't about exploration or seeking out the wonders of the cosmos anymore. It was a series that had lost sight of its original premise and forgotten that majesty and sense of joy when encountering something strange, new and wonderful, something never encountered before. By surviving, it had forgotten about living. Then again, your mileage may vary on that front. Babylon 5 got to me before Deep Space Nine could and I rather enjoyed what the final two seasons of Enterprise tried to do, even if they didn't always succeed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 11:56:23 GMT
The new film has me worried. The concern that the franchise was getting too far away from anything resembling Trek and just being another actioner will not go away when we've got the director of Fast And The Furious taking over from JJ. And that first trailer was a joke. I know Simon Pegg said the trailer was indeed bad but didn't reflect the film so I'll await the next one.
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 18, 2016 1:41:48 GMT
The new film has me worried. The concern that the franchise was getting too far away from anything resembling Trek and just being another actioner will not go away when we've got the director of Fast And The Furious taking over from JJ. And that first trailer was a joke. I know Simon Pegg said the trailer was indeed bad but didn't reflect the film so I'll await the next one. I've pretty much stopped worrying about the new film ever since the new show was announced. Even if it sucks, it won't be the only Star Trek we're getting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 8:14:00 GMT
The new film has me worried. The concern that the franchise was getting too far away from anything resembling Trek and just being another actioner will not go away when we've got the director of Fast And The Furious taking over from JJ. And that first trailer was a joke. I know Simon Pegg said the trailer was indeed bad but didn't reflect the film so I'll await the next one. I've pretty much stopped worrying about the new film ever since the new show was announced. Even if it sucks, it won't be the only Star Trek we're getting. When in doubt there's also fan productions like Star Trek Continues, New Voyages, Starship Farragut, Axanar and Renegades to fall back on. What I learnt from Doctor Who was that licenced material isn't the beginning, nor end of a series. There's a wealth of Trek, good Trek, out there beyond the Abrams films if you know where to look for it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 10:08:43 GMT
I've pretty much stopped worrying about the new film ever since the new show was announced. Even if it sucks, it won't be the only Star Trek we're getting. When in doubt there's also fan productions like Star Trek Continues, New Voyages, Starship Farragut, Axanar and Renegades to fall back on. What I learnt from Doctor Who was that licenced material isn't the beginning, nor end of a series. There's a wealth of Trek, good Trek, out there beyond the Abrams films if you know where to look for it. Axanar, maybe not so much
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 18, 2016 12:02:53 GMT
When in doubt there's also fan productions like Star Trek Continues, New Voyages, Starship Farragut, Axanar and Renegades to fall back on. What I learnt from Doctor Who was that licenced material isn't the beginning, nor end of a series. There's a wealth of Trek, good Trek, out there beyond the Abrams films if you know where to look for it. Axanar, maybe not so much Well, if nothing else, the lawsuit can be entertaining.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 12:35:21 GMT
Trek's haitus was very bad. I think Who fans were spoiled by "The Wilderness Years" - countless books, audios and merchandise while the show was off air. After Nemesis and Enterprise, Trek really did roll over and die for a few years. Yeah, there was fan work but the books dried up massively and there's never been a great deal of audio Trek. It's odd that such a massive fandom doesn't generate more spin-off material.
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