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Post by thethirddoctor on Mar 12, 2018 10:38:28 GMT
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Post by omega on Mar 12, 2018 10:51:47 GMT
He’s gotten really bitter.
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Post by thethirddoctor on Mar 12, 2018 10:54:40 GMT
He’s gotten really bitter. Do you blame him?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 10:58:28 GMT
I'm saddened to hear he was blacklisted from the BBC - that sort of treatment is disgraceful. Jeez, this sheds a whole new light onto his reluctance to discuss the part now. As for The Day of The Doctor, who knows?
Disappoitned to hear he didn't enjoy working on Thor: The Dark World - I'd imagine he would have worked VERY well with Taika Waititi.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 10:58:56 GMT
I think you might need to edit your post, Third Doctor.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 11:08:04 GMT
Where does it say that his issues with the producers in 2004/5 were why he refused the 50th? I don't see mention of that. And no, he wasn't blacklisted in 2013....he'd worked for the BBC on Lennon Naked in 2010, The Shadow Line in 2011, The Borrowers and Blackout in 2012.
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Post by bobod on Mar 12, 2018 11:10:32 GMT
Where does it say that his issues with the producers in 2004/5 were why he refused the 50th? I don't see mention of that. And no, he wasn't blacklisted in 2013....he'd worked for the BBC on Lennon Naked in 2010, The Shadow Line in 2011, The Borrowers and Blackout in 2012. Indeed. And not to mention the fact he had at least one meeting with Moffat about possibly being in the 50th.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 11:21:15 GMT
Ecclestone's being really brave here. Facing another potential blacklist by the BBC is no mean thing and the BBC are going to use Series 11 to promote their progressiveness when it appears in certain corners, there anything but and I can't imagine he doesn't have any conflicted feelings about that.
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Post by mark687 on Mar 12, 2018 11:23:46 GMT
I did find a strange Interview "Well done for the hit show but they don't like you" unless MG or MY were applying undue pressure directly at him which should be viewed as extremely unprofessional
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 11:28:05 GMT
I did find a strange Interview "Well done for the hit show but they don't like you" unless MG or MY were applying undue pressure directly at him which should be viewed as extremely unprofessional Regards mark687 Ecclestone has been vocal that he didn't like how members of the crew were treated throughout filming of the first series by one of the directors which influenced his leaving.
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 12, 2018 11:28:17 GMT
Do we know, as in actual knowledge as opposed to speculation, what the original disagreement that led to his departure was about?
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Post by thethirddoctor on Mar 12, 2018 11:30:36 GMT
Where does it say that his issues with the producers in 2004/5 were why he refused the 50th? I don't see mention of that. And no, he wasn't blacklisted in 2013....he'd worked for the BBC on Lennon Naked in 2010, The Shadow Line in 2011, The Borrowers and Blackout in 2012. Indeed. And not to mention the fact he had at least one meeting with Moffat about possibly being in the 50th. Probably turned it down because he was blacklisted.
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Post by bobod on Mar 12, 2018 11:35:19 GMT
Indeed. And not to mention the fact he had at least one meeting with Moffat about possibly being in the 50th. Probably turned it down because he was blacklisted. He could always have come back in disguise to beat the blacklist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 11:39:45 GMT
Indeed. And not to mention the fact he had at least one meeting with Moffat about possibly being in the 50th. Probably turned it down because he was blacklisted. As Davey pointed out, he actually worked with the BBC before The Day of The Doctor and while we can't know for sure, it's possible he could have returned to the role.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 11:48:56 GMT
Probably turned it down because he was blacklisted. As Davey pointed out, he actually worked with the BBC before The Day of The Doctor and while we can't know for sure, it's possible he could have returned to the role. Yep - 4 or 5 shows in the 2 years before that alone....he clearly was OK working for them and they were OK to employ him. And as Robert says....he took the meeting with Moffat rather than giving a straight decline. He heard Moffat out at least.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 11:54:16 GMT
I love reading interviews with Christopher Eccleston, what a great man... so many big actors are full of themselves. If I was in the UK going to see him in Macbeth at the RSC would be a treat.
Can't see anywhere in either article linked to where Christopher Eccleston says his non-appearance in Day of the Doctor was down to him being blacklisted though, and as Davy points out, he'd been in programmes on the BBC before 2013. (Incidentally, I'd love to have seen more from The Borrowers, that was great too.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 11:57:06 GMT
Do we know, as in actual knowledge as opposed to speculation, what the original disagreement that led to his departure was about? He's spoken about having issues with the higher ups on Who - and plenty of anecotal evidence that he wasn't a fan of Keith Boak, or with the way his concerns were handled by Phil Collinson. And Barrowman has said Chris was withdrawn and grumpy on set while we've also heard Eccleston (I think more than fairly) thought Barrowman was out of order for exposing himself on set to get laughs. I think it was all of it in a whirlwind personally. It's an intense working schedule on DW and Chris' own intensities and very single-minded work ethic met that environment like oil and water. Tennant's a much looser actor and person, much more suited for that.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 12, 2018 12:05:07 GMT
Do we know, as in actual knowledge as opposed to speculation, what the original disagreement that led to his departure was about? He's spoken about having issues with the higher ups on Who - and plenty of anecotal evidence that he wasn't a fan of Keith Boak, or with the way his concerns were handled by Phil Collinson. And Barrowman has said Chris was withdrawn and grumpy on set while we've also heard Eccleston (I think more than fairly) thought Barrowman was out of order for exposing himself on set to get laughs. I think it was all of it in a whirlwind personally. It's an intense working schedule on DW and Chris' own intensities and very single-minded work ethic met that environment like oil and water. Tennant's a much looser actor and person, much more suited for that. It'd be interesting to get a behind the scenes book on the revival about all this .
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Post by jasonward on Mar 12, 2018 12:43:12 GMT
Where does it say that his issues with the producers in 2004/5 were why he refused the 50th? I don't see mention of that. And no, he wasn't blacklisted in 2013....he'd worked for the BBC on Lennon Naked in 2010, The Shadow Line in 2011, The Borrowers and Blackout in 2012. I'm not convinced he was "blacklisted" at all either, certainly not in any official way, which probably means that what he was coming across was a reluctance on the part of several BBC peeps to work with him for a while, not because of any desire to exclude him, but from a desire not to be involved with the problems that arose, or to rock the boat. In my own professional career, I can imagine a consultant that left the firm under a cloud for whatever reason, and however good they were, would find it difficult to get another gig with my own firm for a year or two, but no one would be blacklisting them.
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Post by constonks on Mar 12, 2018 14:29:41 GMT
Unofficial blacklists are absolutely a thing in the film and television industry - the "difficult to work with" stigma passes around so quickly it might as well be official sometimes.
It's interesting that whenever Eccleston said he clashed with people at the very top of the pyramid, I always thought it was RTD and some of the executive producers, but now I assume it was the higher ups at the Beeb.
Presumably those people had moved on by 2010 when he next worked for them?
Though if that's the case DOTD had nothing to do with it.
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