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Post by Timelord007 on Mar 21, 2018 8:02:08 GMT
Blimey for years he wouldn't discuss Doctor Who, now you can't shut him up, he'll probably moan that someone mentioned his appearance in Gone In 60 Seconds or the BBC lunches were awful next or the coffee tasted like dog p..s which is why he left.
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Post by pawntake on Mar 21, 2018 9:06:40 GMT
Your damned if you do,and damned if you Don't.He has been criticized for saying nothing,now he is being slagged-off for speaking out!!!You just can not win. And Don't forget people have been badgering him for over eleven or twelve years to answer this question(Reasons behind his departure).So its not surprising he has finally spoken out.Cut the guy some slack!! He is perfectly entitled to his opinion,after all he was there on set,we were not.
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 21, 2018 9:54:21 GMT
Whilst we now know who fell out with whom and when they fell out, do we know the issue they actually fell out about? What actually happened in the first recording block that led to the breakdown in the relationship? At least we now know for sure it wasn't John Barrowman's antics in the later recording blocks.
My own take on it is that Ecclestone is a very serious, driven actor who cares about his craft. Most people involved seem to say Doctor Who is great fun to work on and one big happy family. Eccelstone strikes me as the kind of person who thinks work shouldn't be fun, we should all be very serious and intense. I also think he wasn't happy about the "media celebrity" aspects of playing the Doctor. So I think Ecclestone was possibly not the right person to take on the role of the Doctor - I mean that purely as a comment on his personality rather than his acting ability (for the record I think he is a great actor and he was a fantastic Doctor). So I think that may have fed into his decision to leave.
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Post by thethirddoctor on Mar 21, 2018 11:38:31 GMT
Whilst we now know who fell out with whom and when they fell out, do we know the issue they actually fell out about? What actually happened in the first recording block that led to the breakdown in the relationship? At least we now know for sure it wasn't John Barrowman's antics in the later recording blocks. My own take on it is that Ecclestone is a very serious, driven actor who cares about his craft. Most people involved seem to say Doctor Who is great fun to work on and one big happy family. Eccelstone strikes me as the kind of person who thinks work shouldn't be fun, we should all be very serious and intense. I also think he wasn't happy about the "media celebrity" aspects of playing the Doctor. So I think Ecclestone was possibly not the right person to take on the role of the Doctor - I mean that purely as a comment on his personality rather than his acting ability (for the record I think he is a great actor and he was a fantastic Doctor). So I think that may have fed into his decision to leave. Obviously, I don't know what Eccleston is like in real life, but some actors take their job very serious when in front of the camera, and relax and have a laugh BTS, and off camera. Some lark around whilst on set which can be distracting to others. We know that Eccleston saw bullying, that shouldn't be happening on a film set. Barrowmans antics should definitely be frowned upon.
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Post by barnabaslives on Mar 21, 2018 16:58:26 GMT
To be honest, I think I'd rather be hearing from him how much he loves working for Big Finish, and how very different things are at BF than they were with the BBC.
As far as the role itself, I'd love to hear him talking about how it's an incomparably unique and rewarding experience as an actor to successfully put your own stamp on a character that's so well-beloved and so strongly identified with over a dozen other performers, and how he can hardly wait to return to the role now that he can make DW without RTD around. :-)
I hope he's very proud of his season as The Doctor, because I very much think he should be, and I certainly hope the role still holds something for him besides unpleasant memories.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 23:43:59 GMT
I hope he's very proud of his season as The Doctor, because I very much think he should be, and I certainly hope the role still holds something for him besides unpleasant memories. ^ This! ^
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Post by aztec on Mar 28, 2018 18:56:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 19:51:42 GMT
If anyone thought Capaldi was pushing it with £75, wait until you see this. It's also quite frustrating that as my (and many other's) first proper Doctor, the people who grew up with him are probably going to have the hardest time paying to see him. Not many in their late teens/early twenties can just stump up that amount of cash.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 20:31:28 GMT
If anyone thought Capaldi was pushing it with £75, wait until you see this. It's also quite frustrating that as my (and many other's) first proper Doctor, the people who grew up with him are probably going to have the hardest time paying to see him. Not many in their late teens/early twenties can just stump up that amount of cash. Blame ebay. In the old days fans collected autographs now many get sold on ebay for huge amounts & the stars get nothing. I think this is a move to deter autograph hunters who sell them on.
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Post by thethirddoctor on Mar 29, 2018 10:21:53 GMT
Opps, I just put this up as a new thread!
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 29, 2018 10:53:39 GMT
I am starting to get hopeful that Ecclestone doing BF is looking more likely, or at least less unlikely than it did a couple of months ago. He should talk to Colin Baker, another ex-Doctor who was treated very badly by the BBC yet is still able to put that aside and move on with the show at BF.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 10:56:29 GMT
Opps, I just put this up as a new thread! That's okay, every other bit of news seems to need at least two links...
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Mar 29, 2018 19:20:03 GMT
Opps, I just put this up as a new thread! That's okay, every other bit of news seems to need at least two links... Or two to four threads.
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Post by gregm on Mar 31, 2018 5:56:45 GMT
I'm not sure we have any idea what Eccleston thinks of Big Finish. We know he does some audio drama, including 1984 with the BBC. So, I'd suggest BF try to get him in to play a role outside of the Doctor Who-related output (maybe Survivors or one of the Big Finish originals) - a good, meaty role, but which doesn't necessarily require that he ever return. Ask him for what he'd like to play. It appears, from interviews with many actors, that many actors love the way Big Finish produces its stories. If he is of this school, he might be willing to do more. (It could even be that, like Josette Simon, he's happy to work for the company but not ever play the role fans most want him to recreate...)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 12:50:12 GMT
I'm not sure we have any idea what Eccleston thinks of Big Finish. We know he does some audio drama, including 1984 with the BBC. So, I'd suggest BF try to get him in to play a role outside of the Doctor Who-related output (maybe Survivors or one of the Big Finish originals) - a good, meaty role, but which doesn't necessarily require that he ever return. Ask him for what he'd like to play. It appears, from interviews with many actors, that many actors love the way Big Finish produces its stories. If he is of this school, he might be willing to do more. (It could even be that, like Josette Simon, he's happy to work for the company but not ever play the role fans most want him to recreate...) He's not going to do Big Finish if he's not attached as The Doctor - there would be too much fanfare.
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Post by bobod on Mar 31, 2018 13:48:53 GMT
I'm not sure we have any idea what Eccleston thinks of Big Finish. We know he does some audio drama, including 1984 with the BBC. So, I'd suggest BF try to get him in to play a role outside of the Doctor Who-related output (maybe Survivors or one of the Big Finish originals) - a good, meaty role, but which doesn't necessarily require that he ever return. Ask him for what he'd like to play. It appears, from interviews with many actors, that many actors love the way Big Finish produces its stories. If he is of this school, he might be willing to do more. (It could even be that, like Josette Simon, he's happy to work for the company but not ever play the role fans most want him to recreate...) He's not going to do Big Finish if he's not attached as The Doctor - there would be too much fanfare. I'm sure Big Finish would be delighted to have in as a lead in something like the H G Wells.
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Post by jasonward on Mar 31, 2018 14:55:43 GMT
He's not going to do Big Finish if he's not attached as The Doctor - there would be too much fanfare. I'm sure Big Finish would be delighted to have in as a lead in something like the H G Wells. I also think that these days, BF's reputation and history would be enough to attract actors like CE into roles, I expect BF find many more doors open and ears ready to listen (in terms of actors and agents) than they did in years past, they have a great reputation, win awards and have a history of working with sought after names. I don't think this by any means, means that CE will work with BF, but I do think they could have a good crack if they approached CE about a role in something other than Who.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 10:17:56 GMT
I'm sure Big Finish would be delighted to have in as a lead in something like the H G Wells. I also think that these days, BF's reputation and history would be enough to attract actors like CE into roles, I expect BF find many more doors open and ears ready to listen (in terms of actors and agents) than they did in years past, they have a great reputation, win awards and have a history of working with sought after names. I don't think this by any means, means that CE will work with BF, but I do think they could have a good crack if they approached CE about a role in something other than Who. Sadly, Big Finish is Doctor Who for a lot of people, particularly with the revival releases being more high profile. And as much as I adore Big Finish, their output is predominantly science fiction and fantasy and their biggest releases are the Doctor Who releases. The news item would be about whether or not he was reviving his role as The Doctor, not the production he'd be in. Ecclestone in Surrivors would be brilliant, but it'd never happen.
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Post by bobod on Apr 1, 2018 12:07:13 GMT
I also think that these days, BF's reputation and history would be enough to attract actors like CE into roles, I expect BF find many more doors open and ears ready to listen (in terms of actors and agents) than they did in years past, they have a great reputation, win awards and have a history of working with sought after names. I don't think this by any means, means that CE will work with BF, but I do think they could have a good crack if they approached CE about a role in something other than Who. Sadly, Big Finish is Doctor Who for a lot of people, particularly with the revival releases being more high profile. And as much as I adore Big Finish, their output is predominantly science fiction and fantasy and their biggest releases are the Doctor Who releases. The news item would be about whether or not he was reviving his role as The Doctor, not the production he'd be in. Ecclestone in Surrivors would be brilliant, but it'd never happen. We'll see...
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Post by jasonward on Apr 1, 2018 12:29:11 GMT
I also think that these days, BF's reputation and history would be enough to attract actors like CE into roles, I expect BF find many more doors open and ears ready to listen (in terms of actors and agents) than they did in years past, they have a great reputation, win awards and have a history of working with sought after names. I don't think this by any means, means that CE will work with BF, but I do think they could have a good crack if they approached CE about a role in something other than Who. Sadly, Big Finish is Doctor Who for a lot of people, particularly with the revival releases being more high profile. And as much as I adore Big Finish, their output is predominantly science fiction and fantasy and their biggest releases are the Doctor Who releases. The news item would be about whether or not he was reviving his role as The Doctor, not the production he'd be in. Ecclestone in Surrivors would be brilliant, but it'd never happen. Whilst that may be true for much of the "fan"press, the press on mass don't know Big Finish form a rock in the floor, and whilst I'm sure many people would ask if working wth BF meant CE would be doing a Who, it wouldn't stop or prevent CE doing a none Who.
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