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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:11:30 GMT
"This isn't an argument, this is just contradiction." No it isn’t
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:17:22 GMT
But, it's not backed up by evidence. Anyway, this is getting really weird. I'm blocking you, you are starting to make me feel very uncomfortable. By disagreeing with you? People have dfferent opinions and yes, two people can take different things from the same episode of Doctor Who. You shouldn't feel uncomfortable at all. Some people like Danny Pink, some people don't. Nobody is right or wrong. Look, uh, final statement: he was citing evidence which wasn't in the show. At all. I rewatched the show. I corrected him and he kept insisting he was right, despite clearly being wrong, despite that I was citing actual evidence from the show. Please actually read my posts, Stevo. That's strange, that's offputting and I voiced my discomfort which is a response anyone would have in this situation. I don't get what the stakes are for you in this, Stevo.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:23:53 GMT
By disagreeing with you? People have dfferent opinions and yes, two people can take different things from the same episode of Doctor Who. You shouldn't feel uncomfortable at all. Some people like Danny Pink, some people don't. Nobody is right or wrong. Look, uh, final statement: he was citing evidence which wasn't in the show. I rewatched the show. I corrected him and he kept insisting he was right, despite clearly being wrong, despite citing evidence and that's been the last page or so of the thread. Please actually read my posts. Thank you. Read mine! People having different opinions on a discussion forum [these are the key words] shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable. If he's wrong, so what? Why would you feel uncomfortable with it and want to block him? Everything is subjective.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:32:32 GMT
Look, uh, final statement: he was citing evidence which wasn't in the show. I rewatched the show. I corrected him and he kept insisting he was right, despite clearly being wrong, despite citing evidence and that's been the last page or so of the thread. Please actually read my posts. Thank you. Read mine! People having different opinions on a discussion forum [these are the key words] shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable. If he's wrong, so what? Why would you feel uncomfortable with it and want to block him? Everything is subjective. Rewrote my post: Final statement:he was citing evidence which wasn't in the show. At all. I rewatched the show. I corrected him and he kept insisting he was right, despite clearly being wrong, despite that I was citing actual evidence from the show. Please actually read my posts, Stevo. That's strange, that's offputting and I voiced my discomfort which is a response anyone would have in this situation. I don't get what the stakes are for you in this, Stevo.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:34:39 GMT
And I'm putting you on block as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:36:39 GMT
And I'm putting you on block as well.
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Post by mark687 on Apr 16, 2018 21:39:50 GMT
Sorry for the tension everybody
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:43:52 GMT
People having different opinions on a discussion forum [these are the key words] shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable. If he's wrong, so what? Why would you feel uncomfortable with it and want to block him? Everything is subjective. I voiced my discomfort which is a response anyone would have in this situation. I don't get what the stakes are for you in this, Stevo. I'm trying to be the voice of reason! As I think you are overreacting to somebody feeling differently to you. On a forum for discussions people having differing opinions is quite normal. Mark said nothing wrong. If we all agreed with each other, why have a forum at all? But hey, if you feel discomfort from people who think differently to you then nothing anyone says is going to make you feel any happier. So carry on...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:45:49 GMT
Sorry for the tension everybody That Danny Pink fella, still causing trouble...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:49:14 GMT
Sorry for the tension everybody Regards mark687 You have nothing to apologies for.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:49:36 GMT
And I'm putting you on block as well. Maybe you should block everyone, you won't have to read anymore posts from people who don't agree with you then. Cheerio. xx
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 22:13:32 GMT
Anyone fancy a pint? * The OP assumes that the Twelfth Doctor TV Era needs changing of course; apart from a few tweaks, I wouldn't really change anything, other than perhaps the scheduling! I like that The Twelfth Doctor is a stern teacher type in his first series, with glimpses of hilarious tastelessness (his line in Into the Dalek when someone is turned into soup: "He's the top layer if you want to say a few words," is jaw-droppingly funny). Clara's cue-cards on 'what to say' clearly have some effect because by his second series, he has become much more comfortable in his own skin. Something of an ageing rock star is something that appeals to me, and sits well with his more dour moments. And I love that by his third series, he is a more contemplative, playful Doctor. If he had been that way all along, those who deliberately hate everything about 'nu-who' (and yet continually post about it) would moan he had no depth, no progression, no character development. Clara is similar. I could have done with less of her more irritating tendencies (a cutesie 'shut up shut up shut up' are not among the best last words to boyfriend Danny Pink), but I like the fact she has a different story to tell in each of her series. She's still the same character - as is the Doctor - just with different circumstances around her. I love the fact that The Twefth Doctor has faced the Cybermen in two of their best ever TV stories, I love the fact that he's proven you don't have be young and fast-talking to be a brilliant incarnation of the character post 2005. Apart from Pertwee and McGann, Capaldi has been the first actor not to overplay the role, and has curbed some of the character's excesses I was getting a tired of. So, in short, I love The Twelfth. I love his era. I'm just sad it wasn't longer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 22:17:44 GMT
Sorry for the tension everybody Regards mark687 Look, you came on very strong. I was citing evidence from the show, unbiased from opinion and you kept citing things which never happened in the show (like Danny being depressed all the time or The Doctor and Danny being at each other throats in the second half of series eight, which never happened). We can disagree on Danny Pink, but you need to have evidence why, hence a rewatch. I'm unblocking you, but just keep this in mind forr future posts, okay?
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Apr 16, 2018 22:18:01 GMT
No, you are pretty much right. No, it doesn't. So companions to the Doctor should not have outside relationships? So Letts and Dicks never should have had Jo meet someone, fall in love and leave the Doctor? Leela never should have met someone, fallen in love and left the Doctor? Susan should have never met someone, fallen in love and left the Doctor? We’re all those examples of sexuality being overt and not subtle? A character who is a companion to the Doctor should never be shown going out on a date with someone else?
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Post by chrism1999 on Apr 16, 2018 22:28:49 GMT
Sorry for the tension everybody Regards mark687 As others have said, you're absolutely blameless here.
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Post by bobod on Apr 16, 2018 22:44:35 GMT
Sorry for the tension everybody Regards mark687 Look, you came on very strong. I was citing evidence from the show, unbiased from opinion and you kept citing things which never happened in the show (like Danny being depressed all the time or The Doctor and Danny being at each other throats in the second half of series eight, which never happened). We can disagree on Danny Pink, but you need to have evidence why, hence a rewatch. I'm unblocking you, but just keep this in mind forr future posts, okay? Michael, that's REALLY unfair on Mark. Just this week you were doing exactly that thing. The story you said Clayton Hickman told in the Terror of the Vervoids Making OF documentary was not at all what he said. When I pointed this out "citing evidence from the show, unbiased from opinion" you never at any stage acknowledged that "you kept citing things which never happened in the show" - AND were using them as the basis for your contention Big Finish would never use the Vervoids.
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Post by melkur on Apr 16, 2018 22:49:24 GMT
Like with others, there isn't really anything I'd drastically chance but:
I think I'd have Clara leave at the end of series 8 (don't get me wrong, I like her, but I was more than ready for her to leave...)
Loose the 'clunkers' of series 8 so that Capaldi's debut series is less hit & miss
Whilst I'm a fan of them, I'd reduce the number of two-parters in series 9 (not that any of them are bad, it's just that towards the end of the series I was getting fatigued by the fact that I'd have to wait until the following week for the resolution - Some I'd keep as they are, others I'd find a way of halving the story's length, even if it would mean bumping up the running time)
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Post by number13 on Apr 16, 2018 22:50:33 GMT
Sorry for the tension everybody Regards mark687 You've nothing to apologise for Mark, you were just having a polite and well-reasoned discussion. And criticism of Danny Pink is always right. (Apart from 'Listen' which I thought was excellent, but the ideas started in it were then abandoned with no explanation.) The character was a stereotype and I hated the whole 'class tension' and 'anti-military' thing with the Doctor and the way the Doctor was written to appear condescending to Danny. And the ridiculous "romantic triangle" idea with Clara.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 22:58:40 GMT
Look, you came on very strong. I was citing evidence from the show, unbiased from opinion and you kept citing things which never happened in the show (like Danny being depressed all the time or The Doctor and Danny being at each other throats in the second half of series eight, which never happened). We can disagree on Danny Pink, but you need to have evidence why, hence a rewatch. I'm unblocking you, but just keep this in mind forr future posts, okay? Michael, that's REALLY unfair on Mark. Just this week you were doing exactly that thing. The story you said Clayton Hickman told in the Terror of the Vervoids Making OF documentary was not at all what he said. When I pointed this out "citing evidence from the show, unbiased from opinion" you never at any stage acknowledged that "you kept citing things which never happened in the show" - AND were using them as the basis for your contention Big Finish would never use the Vervoids. I made a mistake and I apologised in that thread. Look, this has been dealt with.
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Post by bobod on Apr 16, 2018 23:07:08 GMT
Michael, that's REALLY unfair on Mark. Just this week you were doing exactly that thing. The story you said Clayton Hickman told in the Terror of the Vervoids Making OF documentary was not at all what he said. When I pointed this out "citing evidence from the show, unbiased from opinion" you never at any stage acknowledged that "you kept citing things which never happened in the show" - AND were using them as the basis for your contention Big Finish would never use the Vervoids. I made a mistake and I apologised in that thread. Look, this has been dealt with. Move on. I must have missed the apology post. I can't see one, or an admission of mistake. Only something I didn't understand about Doctor Who Weekly... which Clay doesn't mention either. Perhaps you meant to but something went wrong. But having just made a mistake yourself, please then be kinder to Mark when you feel he is making one. We all have to play nicely together here.
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