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Post by fingersmash on Jul 13, 2019 15:30:08 GMT
This might not be the best place for it but I have some issues and I don't want to take any of the other threads off topic. Mods, feel free to move as you wish because I'm genuinely not trying to start drama on here, I just need to scream into the void.
I've been getting some extreme burnout with the current direction of the Eighth Doctor. This has been building probably since Doom Coalition started. And I think I can link it to the companions. Yes... I have no love for Liv and Helen. Liv tends to be a sacred cow around here and Helen is decently sainted as well so that feels like blasphemy. Let me explain myself. Liv utterly bores me (the snide and sarcastic deadpan really gets old after 40 odd stories) and Helen feels like an even less interesting copy from "the past" instead of from "the future", neither of which I think have really been consequential outside of Escape From Kaldor. The similarity between Nicola Walker's voice and Hattie Morahan's voice do not help the problem.
Now none of this is to say that I hate any of the current line of stories. I've lauded Companion Piece as one of the best Big Finish stories ever and that has Liv and Helen center stage. But that's also because they were bouncing off of Charley (who was just totally on fire that entire episode) and Bliss (who had an extremely interesting plot in the episode) the entire time. Maybe it's just the tedium of the same companions for so long with not much to show why they're still there other than the fact that they're fan favorites (I felt the same with Rose and the Ponds). Maybe it's the insistence on an arc that doesn't really feel like it's going anywhere in plot or thematically (this actually might be my number 1 issue with Ravenous). I just have a lot of problems with how things are laying out and I'm ready for a change. And a durassic one. Let Eight fall in with a new companion who lets him have more fun. How about a break from long arcs? Maybe (dare I say it?) shakeup the writers. Just anything to change the direction of the current Eighth Doctor line.
I really hope I got my problems out and was at least somewhat constructive with my issues but I just really needed to get that off of my chest and we're all decently civil around here so don't hurt me too much.
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Post by Digi on Jul 13, 2019 16:03:57 GMT
I wouldn't mind a shift in format away from the 4x4 box sets just to shake things up, personally. Which is not to say I have any issue with how things are going right now -- I completely disagree with every complaint you have -- but change is a good thing. Helps keep things fresh.
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Post by barnabaslives on Jul 13, 2019 16:20:32 GMT
Well, I like the long arcs personally but I admit to having Liv burnout myself, especially lately when the "deadpan" only seems to be getting worse with the most recent installments. I almost felt like they know it's time for a change and were working the character to be more irritating so as that we might miss her less - sort of like The Boy Who Time Forgot feels a lot like "See, you didn't miss that character as much as thought you did". I think it's probably worse when I go to re-listen to some of the epic sets and get a larger dose of Liv all at once.
Helen I like, but it seems like in spite of doing some very dramatic things with her, she does often sort of feel like she's kind of just there. I also like Bliss but sadly, to be perfectly honest that's another Eight Doctor companion that is somehow feeling sort of non-descript to me. Things seemed better when there was a story about her family but for me I guess that whole set seemed to go downhill from there when it comes to there being anything memorable about Bliss?
I'm not really sure why any of this might be so, I think we've had great stories and great writers but it does kind of feel like maybe not enough attention has been paid to character development with these later companions? I realize I may well be in the minority with any of this, though.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 13, 2019 16:39:42 GMT
Hmm. Honestly, I LOVE posts like these. Great to get some discussion going! I admit I absolutely LOVE the current direction and the boxset 8th Doctor and of course Liv. I cannot get enough of them. I love the darkness and the lack of goofyness. It is just my "thing". However, why should your opinion not be valid, too? I hate nothing more than what you call a "sacred cow" and I am actually willing to sacrifice a few if we get a good story out of it. I see no reason why anyone on here would like to hurt you for your opinion? Or why I should hate you? Why is it always necessary to join the majority? The greatest ideas in history came from people who dared to think different. Otherwise we would still be sitting up in the trees I guess. You raise some valid points and while I love what is currently done, I am also aware that it is not perfect and of course there is always room for change. I also agree that things should be kept fresh and new developments introduced, otherwise all we get is the same old. I actually think change is on the horizon- there must be a reason we have not heard about what is planned for the 8th Doctor next year, and my guess would be that we have to say good-bye to what the majority of us have fallen in love with. And does this necessarily need to be a bad thing? I keep an open mind and will try out a lot of things. Otherwise, I also would never have found into this fandom and still sit in my corner mumbling about how Doctor Who was "bullsh*t". Bring it on. Surprise me. Get me out of my comfort zone. Make me try things I previously thought I did not like. But of course I also know that I am myself a bit of a minority in that respect.
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Post by fingersmash on Jul 13, 2019 16:46:15 GMT
Well, I like the long arcs personally but I admit to having Liv burnout myself, especially lately when the "deadpan" only seems to be getting worse with the most recent installments. I almost felt like they know it's time for a change and were working the character to be more irritating so as that we might miss her less - sort of like The Boy Who Time Forgot feels a lot like "See, you didn't miss that character as much as thought you did". I think it's probably worse when I go to re-listen to some of the epic sets and get a larger dose of Liv all at once. Helen I like, but it seems like in spite of doing some very dramatic things with her, she does often sort of feel like she's kind of just there. I also like Bliss but sadly, to be perfectly honest that's another Eight Doctor companion that is somehow feeling sort of non-descript to me. Things seemed better when there was a story about her family but for me I guess that whole set seemed to go downhill from there when it comes to there being anything memorable about Bliss? I'm not really sure why any of this might be so, I think we've had great stories and great writers but it does kind of feel like maybe not enough attention has been paid to character development with these later companions? I realize I may well be in the minority with any of this, though. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I feel like the announcement of the Robots was what really made me realize how much this team feels nondescript. I've banged on and on about it but I really think the idea of the "strong female" (EDIT FOR CLARIFICATION: specifically, how it seems they're going about it) is more and more strangling the potential any new companions have, even in creation. It doesn't help that of the new companions we've had recently, three have been cut from the exact same cloth of "female from Earth's past in a traditionally male occupation" which got very old by the time they did it the third time around.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 13, 2019 16:56:28 GMT
Well, I like the long arcs personally but I admit to having Liv burnout myself, especially lately when the "deadpan" only seems to be getting worse with the most recent installments. I almost felt like they know it's time for a change and were working the character to be more irritating so as that we might miss her less - sort of like The Boy Who Time Forgot feels a lot like "See, you didn't miss that character as much as thought you did". I think it's probably worse when I go to re-listen to some of the epic sets and get a larger dose of Liv all at once. Helen I like, but it seems like in spite of doing some very dramatic things with her, she does often sort of feel like she's kind of just there. I also like Bliss but sadly, to be perfectly honest that's another Eight Doctor companion that is somehow feeling sort of non-descript to me. Things seemed better when there was a story about her family but for me I guess that whole set seemed to go downhill from there when it comes to there being anything memorable about Bliss? I'm not really sure why any of this might be so, I think we've had great stories and great writers but it does kind of feel like maybe not enough attention has been paid to character development with these later companions? I realize I may well be in the minority with any of this, though. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I feel like the announcement of the Robots was what really made me realize how much this team feels nondescript. I've banged on and on about it but I really think the idea of the "strong female" is more and more strangling the potential any new companions have, even in creation. It doesn't help that of the new companions we've had recently, three have been cut from the exact same cloth of "female from Earth's past in a traditionally male occupation" which got very old by the time they did it the third time around.Yeah, thoroughly agree with you there.... it IS a bit samey. I do miss characters like Erimem- what a cool idea for a companion! Plenty of conflict and drama to explore with a character with very different believe and moral codes.
And she can still be a strong female character, even if she is not a female computer programmer from present day Earth who struggles with a male dominated field...
Also, a new MALE companion could shake up things, too. What is up with that? Is it now forced upon us by political correctness that we need a 50/50 ratio? Even by sacrificing to the story?
Or how about bringing Frobisher back or- here is a novel idea- what about a different ALIEN companion? Maybe a hermaphrodite (to keep it even)? This is a sci-fi show after all. You could dream up all kinds of interesting drama and conflict with that one.
I am myself getting a bit tired of present day (or even slightly past of future) females tagging along. In the TV show, Bill was (although she still fit the mould) a nice breath of fresh(er) air.
But yeah, I petition to get Erimem back.
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Post by fingersmash on Jul 13, 2019 17:25:35 GMT
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I feel like the announcement of the Robots was what really made me realize how much this team feels nondescript. I've banged on and on about it but I really think the idea of the "strong female" is more and more strangling the potential any new companions have, even in creation. It doesn't help that of the new companions we've had recently, three have been cut from the exact same cloth of "female from Earth's past in a traditionally male occupation" which got very old by the time they did it the third time around.Yeah, thoroughly agree with you there.... it IS a bit samey. I do miss characters like Erimem- what a cool idea for a companion! Plenty of conflict and drama to explore with a character with very different believe and moral codes.
And she can still be a strong female character, even if she is not a female computer programmer from present day Earth who struggles with a male dominated field...
Also, a new MALE companion could shake up things, too. What is up with that? Is it now forced upon us by political correctness that we need a 50/50 ratio? Even by sacrificing to the story?
Or how about bringing Frobisher back or- here is a novel idea- what about a different ALIEN companion? Maybe a hermaphrodite (to keep it even)? This is a sci-fi show after all. You could dream up all kinds of interesting drama and conflict with that one.
I am myself getting a bit tired of present day (or even slightly past of future) females tagging along. In the TV show, Bill was (although she still fit the mould) a nice breath of fresh(er) air.
But yeah, I petition to get Erimem back.
Companions like Erimem, (hopefully) Marc, Evelyn, Frobisher, Benny, Bill, and Hex are exactly what I want to see. One of the things I always think of when I see Big Finish saying they're trying to get better at diversity is "okay, so why are you still creating and writing largely straight, white, female companions." (Bliss was a step in the right direction for this) Even just switching the "female from Earth's past in a traditionally male occupation" format into "male from Earth's past in a traditionally female occupation" would feel like a breath of fresh air. I've made my desire for more male companions very known. Doubly so for males on their own. It's just so very strange to me seeing the Doctor, who frequently lauds his companions as the best humanity has to offer, largely choosing a very specific demographic of white British women in their 20s contemporary to the time of the story's premiere as his companions. Add to that the borderline creepy power dynamic that results when you think about the sheer number of companions that fit that mold. What I'm saying here: Let Marc stay on for a while with Five and Nyssa and Tegan. Let Six meet a trans* character or a nonbinary character (preferably played by an actor who is trans* or nonbinary) and take a liking to them. Let Seven have a companion who doesn't take kindly to the manipulation and makes it known. Let Eight meet an absolute party animal who makes him let loose and have fun for a change. Let Four take on a father-figure role for a companion who's a tad younger than the usual. Let Three befriend an absolute lad of a soldier and take him around and force him to improve himself. Expand the idea of who and what a companion can and will be, because the formula as it stands has been getting old for well over a decade now and needs a change.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 13, 2019 17:39:00 GMT
Yeah, thoroughly agree with you there.... it IS a bit samey. I do miss characters like Erimem- what a cool idea for a companion! Plenty of conflict and drama to explore with a character with very different believe and moral codes.
And she can still be a strong female character, even if she is not a female computer programmer from present day Earth who struggles with a male dominated field...
Also, a new MALE companion could shake up things, too. What is up with that? Is it now forced upon us by political correctness that we need a 50/50 ratio? Even by sacrificing to the story?
Or how about bringing Frobisher back or- here is a novel idea- what about a different ALIEN companion? Maybe a hermaphrodite (to keep it even)? This is a sci-fi show after all. You could dream up all kinds of interesting drama and conflict with that one.
I am myself getting a bit tired of present day (or even slightly past of future) females tagging along. In the TV show, Bill was (although she still fit the mould) a nice breath of fresh(er) air.
But yeah, I petition to get Erimem back.
Companions like Erimem, (hopefully) Marc, Evelyn, Frobisher, Benny, Bill, and Hex are exactly what I want to see. One of the things I always think of when I see Big Finish saying they're trying to get better at diversity is "okay, so why are you still creating and writing largely straight, white, female companions." (Bliss was a step in the right direction for this) Even just switching the "female from Earth's past in a traditionally male occupation" format into "male from Earth's past in a traditionally female occupation" would feel like a breath of fresh air. I've made my desire for more male companions very known. Doubly so for males on their own. It's just so very strange to me seeing the Doctor, who frequently lauds his companions as the best humanity has to offer, largely choosing a very specific demographic of white British women in their 20s contemporary to the time of the story's premiere as his companions. Add to that the borderline creepy power dynamic that results when you think about the sheer number of companions that fit that mold. What I'm saying here: Let Marc stay on for a while with Five and Nyssa and Tegan. Let Six meet a trans* character or a nonbinary character (preferably played by an actor who is trans* or nonbinary) and take a liking to them. Let Seven have a companion who doesn't take kindly to the manipulation and makes it known. Let Eight meet an absolute party animal who makes him let loose and have fun for a change. Let Four take on a father-figure role for a companion who's a tad younger than the usual. Let Three befriend an absolute lad of a soldier and take him around and force him to improve himself. Expand the idea of who and what a companion can and will be, because the formula as it stands has been getting old for well over a decade now and needs a change. So many neat ideas. And they all sound great!
Why exactly is it that we got stuck with the same old companion idea for so long? As you said, BF had a great variety in the past!
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Post by masterdoctor on Jul 13, 2019 17:49:10 GMT
The past argument doesn’t quite work for me as all mentioned were from before Doctor Who came back and exploded, so they had slot more creative freedom, but now the BBC are very involved in their productions, Doctor Who specifically. They are definitely doing more diverse stuff in other ranges such as Torchwood, so it’s not as if they do new things.
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Post by fingersmash on Jul 13, 2019 18:00:24 GMT
Companions like Erimem, (hopefully) Marc, Evelyn, Frobisher, Benny, Bill, and Hex are exactly what I want to see. One of the things I always think of when I see Big Finish saying they're trying to get better at diversity is "okay, so why are you still creating and writing largely straight, white, female companions." (Bliss was a step in the right direction for this) Even just switching the "female from Earth's past in a traditionally male occupation" format into "male from Earth's past in a traditionally female occupation" would feel like a breath of fresh air. I've made my desire for more male companions very known. Doubly so for males on their own. It's just so very strange to me seeing the Doctor, who frequently lauds his companions as the best humanity has to offer, largely choosing a very specific demographic of white British women in their 20s contemporary to the time of the story's premiere as his companions. Add to that the borderline creepy power dynamic that results when you think about the sheer number of companions that fit that mold. What I'm saying here: Let Marc stay on for a while with Five and Nyssa and Tegan. Let Six meet a trans* character or a nonbinary character (preferably played by an actor who is trans* or nonbinary) and take a liking to them. Let Seven have a companion who doesn't take kindly to the manipulation and makes it known. Let Eight meet an absolute party animal who makes him let loose and have fun for a change. Let Four take on a father-figure role for a companion who's a tad younger than the usual. Let Three befriend an absolute lad of a soldier and take him around and force him to improve himself. Expand the idea of who and what a companion can and will be, because the formula as it stands has been getting old for well over a decade now and needs a change. So many neat ideas. And they all sound great!
Why exactly is it that we got stuck with the same old companion idea for so long? As you said, BF had a great variety in the past!
I think it was largely just what kept happening. The Doctor kept picking up pretty girls in their 20s from contemporary UK and it got to the point of no one could think any different of a companion to the show's detriment.
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Post by Digi on Jul 13, 2019 18:14:00 GMT
I would not at all be against a few more male companions, but at the same time I think there's a nice juxtaposition in casting a female actress opposite a male Doctor actor. Salt+pepper all the time might feel like it gets boring, but I think double-salt or double-pepper would end up not being nearly as satisfying as you might expect.
There's also that the series tends toward gender balance across eras, whether Doctor/Ian/Susan/Barbara, Doctor/Turlough/Nyssa/Tegan, or Doctor/Yaz/Ryan/Graham. It's kind of baked into Doctor Who's DNA, and to me at least, it only makes sense that the audios would follow that lead. And again like the TV series I think it's important that the character opposite the Doctor be a human from Earth, because the entire point of a companion is that they're the POV character for the audience, they're the one that we're meant to relate to and share some kind of bond with, and who grounds the Doctor when he gets off on grand timey/universal tangents.
That said: I wouldn't mind if we had a companion or two who was plucked from a non-contemporary era. Charley was nice that way, an "Edwardian adventuress" with the social values of her time but an undercurrent of modernity.
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Post by fingersmash on Jul 13, 2019 18:19:00 GMT
The past argument doesn’t quite work for me as all mentioned were from before Doctor Who came back and exploded, so they had slot more creative freedom, but now the BBC are very involved in their productions, Doctor Who specifically. They are definitely doing more diverse stuff in other ranges such as Torchwood, so it’s not as if they do new things. There's still Bill who was a breath of fresh air just for being not white and straight. And when she first appeared, Constance was a bit of fresh air too before they kept taking her premise for other companions. And there's also Bliss, despite her not living up to as well written as she could be. Just a tad more diversity in the Doctor Who ranges in general but most absolutely in the Eighth Doctor stories could be the kick in the pants BF need.
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Post by fingersmash on Jul 13, 2019 18:30:52 GMT
I would not at all be against a few more male companions, but at the same time I think there's a nice juxtaposition in casting a female actress opposite a male Doctor actor. Salt+pepper all the time might feel like it gets boring, but I think double-salt or double-pepper would end up not being nearly as satisfying as you might expect. There's also that the series tends toward gender balance across eras, whether Doctor/Ian/Susan/Barbara, Doctor/Turlough/Nyssa/Tegan, or Doctor/Yaz/Ryan/Graham. It's kind of baked into Doctor Who's DNA, and to me at least, it only makes sense that the audios would follow that lead. And again like the TV series I think it's important that the character opposite the Doctor be a human from Earth, because the entire point of a companion is that they're the POV character for the audience, they're the one that we're meant to relate to and share some kind of bond with, and who grounds the Doctor when he gets off on grand timey/universal tangents. That said: I wouldn't mind if we had a companion or two who was plucked from a non-contemporary era. Charley was nice that way, an "Edwardian adventuress" with the social values of her time but an undercurrent of modernity. There's nothing wrong with salt+pepper but when those are the only seasonings you use, everything starts to taste boring. A little extra salt and a bit less pepper could take a meh dish and make it great. But so could adding a bit of chilli powder or some cinnamon. I think this metaphor is making sense. And gender balance is always wonderful, but again, it often doesn't hold up to scrutiny and can make for poor implications considering you have a power dynamic of a man who is held as the ultimate authority and a female who is most definitely not. I'm not saying every companion from here on out should be male, but I think there should be a far better idea of who and what the companion can, will, and should be and that the default being a contemporary 20-something woman from Earth is most absolutely definitely to the show's detriment, just as much as the Doctor being a white man was to the show's detriment.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jul 13, 2019 20:27:49 GMT
I have something of a case of 8th Doctor fatigue as well but for me I think it is time for a change of direction behind the scenes. David Richardson, Ken Bentley, Matt Fitton and John Dorney has guided 8 for what, 12 hours of Dark Eyes! 16 hours of Doom Coalition and when they are done, 32 hours for Ravenous and Time War? 60 hours of audios is a lot. I would love to hear what James Goss or Joseph Lidster could do. And I would like a move away from “event” style box sets and a move towards self-contained boxes or 4 hour long adventures that are one and done. I love Liv but I think it may be a case of my loving the performer rather than the character, so I get the complaints about her and as a character, I really don’t know what purpose Helen serves. I think that all points to what is going on at the conception and scripting end. As a group, this production team has had a great run and produced some excellent audio adventures but I think it is time for some different voices guiding the range(s).
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Post by fingersmash on Jul 13, 2019 21:13:08 GMT
I have something of a case of 8th Doctor fatigue as well but for me I think it is time for a change of direction behind the scenes. David Richardson, Ken Bentley, Matt Fitton and John Dorney has guided 8 for what, 12 hours of Dark Eyes! 16 hours of Doom Coalition and when they are done, 32 hours for Ravenous and Time War? 60 hours of audios is a lot. I would love to hear what James Goss or Joseph Lidster could do. And I would like a move away from “event” style box sets and a move towards self-contained boxes or 4 hour long adventures that are one and done. I love Liv but I think it may be a case of my loving the performer rather than the character, so I get the complaints about her and as a character, I really don’t know what purpose Helen serves. I think that all points to what is going on at the conception and scripting end. As a group, this production team has had a great run and produced some excellent audio adventures but I think it is time for some different voices guiding the range(s). Porque no los dos?
I'm nowhere near wanting Fitton and Dorney out of a job. They write amazing stories and they do amazing work. However, I'd like Eight to be sent off from the super dark direction he's been in for the past 12 box sets. I really think it's time for a total shakeup with Eight getting a chance to lighten up a bit with a new supporting cast and less of an arc focus. And I'd really love to see what David Richardson and Emma Haigh producing and Helen Goldwyn directing could do for the show.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jul 13, 2019 21:36:33 GMT
I have something of a case of 8th Doctor fatigue as well but for me I think it is time for a change of direction behind the scenes. David Richardson, Ken Bentley, Matt Fitton and John Dorney has guided 8 for what, 12 hours of Dark Eyes! 16 hours of Doom Coalition and when they are done, 32 hours for Ravenous and Time War? 60 hours of audios is a lot. I would love to hear what James Goss or Joseph Lidster could do. And I would like a move away from “event” style box sets and a move towards self-contained boxes or 4 hour long adventures that are one and done. I love Liv but I think it may be a case of my loving the performer rather than the character, so I get the complaints about her and as a character, I really don’t know what purpose Helen serves. I think that all points to what is going on at the conception and scripting end. As a group, this production team has had a great run and produced some excellent audio adventures but I think it is time for some different voices guiding the range(s). Porque no los dos?
I'm nowhere near wanting Fitton and Dorney out of a job. They write amazing stories and they do amazing work. However, I'd like Eight to be sent off from the super dark direction he's been in for the past 12 box sets. I really think it's time for a total shakeup with Eight getting a chance to lighten up a bit with a new supporting cast and less of an arc focus. And I'd really love to see what David Richardson and Emma Haigh producing and Helen Goldwyn directing could do for the show. I’m not calling for either or Fitton or Dorney to be put out of a job but if you want a “total shakeup”, then you want a change at story editor, Fitton Dorney & Bentley. I would argue it was Nick who started the trend towards a darker 8th Doctor but it has been a little unrelenting and that falls to the creative direction of which Richardson, Bentley, Fitton and Dorney lead up. The contributions of Fitton, Dorney, Bentley and Richardson to Big Finish, and 8, cannot be overstated but at this point, I agree with you. A shakeup is not only a good thing but probably a needed thing. And a shakeup means a shakeup. None of that is meant to be disparaging towards the gentleman but rather an acknowledgment that there comes a point where a fresh set of eyes is what a range needs.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 13, 2019 22:21:14 GMT
Hmm. If I was to make a stab at a prediction of what might happen... maybe we get a few more "lighter" adventures with Lucie Miller and/ or similar. Totally possible, since they were just testing the water with it. And they have by now proven that they can juggle several busy actor schedules. However, since McGann himself prefers the darker stories, I am also convinced we will keep those or might even climb into deeper darker pits. Just imagine what happens if Liv dies and Helen and the Doctor weep over her grave... the darkness won't see it coming.
So we might continue on the path of having several 8th Doctor releases, set at different points in his life. Which is fine by me - I do like the dark pits, but hey, for a change, also give me the Doctor as a party animal. As long as he is not too annoying when played drunk. God save us... (of course, I am sure anything we will get will be better than Exile.)
But somehow I just do not expect any major shakeups in the near future. I just cannot see it right now, they just seem to enjoy basking in their success at the moment... Although I agree that it might be time to think about it.
Anyways, I cannot wait to find out what the plans for the 8th Doctor from next year on are- as soon as they feel save to gives us spoilers... might still have to wait a few months.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 13, 2019 22:30:50 GMT
My only "slight concern" with 8 is the dropping of Main/Monthly Range years ago, and the lack of inside cd covers pictures of him with the cast.. Mr McGann must be the busiest actor in the UK atm for the last 5-10 years as he can only find time for the special event boxsets. (This sounds harsher then it is meant too )
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Post by mbt66 on Jul 14, 2019 11:14:38 GMT
When I saw the title of this thread I thought it was in regards to how manny Eighth Doctor stories we are getting at the moment and would Paul McGann or the listener get “burned out” by the experience!?
Personally I have enjoyed everything they have done with the Eighth Doctor although I am still not convinced with the notion of having two ongoing series being released at the same time.
The Time War range for the Eighth Doctor has been the weakest link for me. It has felt very bland in comparison to Ravenous. And although Liv wouldn’t be in my top 5 companions to the Eighth Doctor, at the moment Bliss wouldn’t be in my top ten.
I would be very happy with the Eighth Doctor Main Range* continuing with another twelve disc season with a new companion to shake things up a little. The main creative players in the range have shown no sign of running out of ideas, so unless they want to move on to something I don’t see the need for change.
*I still feel like these Eighth Doctor releases are Big Finishes main range, as he is their audio Doctor and these stories are his current adventures.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 14, 2019 11:21:56 GMT
My only "slight concern" with 8 is the dropping of Main/Monthly Range years ago, and the lack of inside cd covers pictures of him with the cast.. Mr McGann must be the busiest actor in the UK atm for the last 5-10 years as he can only find time for the special event boxsets. (This sounds harsher then it is meant too ) And still he finds the time to appear in more releases this year than anybody else... I think he is just THE poster child for BF and therefore gets all these "special" releases...
and he certainly seems to appreciate this fact more and more looking at his growing enthusiasm in the interviews.
As for the pictures of him with the cast- I got the impression there were more of these floating about recently (certainly in Vortex and on the BF website) than there had been in the past? I do not know about the CD covers, since I mostly buy downloads...
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