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Post by timegirl on Jan 28, 2020 14:21:32 GMT
Maybe she is indeed a Season 6B Alt-Third Doctor set post World Game but pre-Spearhead. When she went running again and was caught they took away that regeneration, gave her a new one and wiped her memory so that it went straight from Troughton to Pertwee or i could be completely wrong lol But isn't Pertwee dressed like Troughton when he stumbles out of the TARDIS? Maybe the Timelords put her back in 2’s clothes so it wouldn’t trigger any memories of being Ruth after she regenerated into 3🤔😉
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 14:25:40 GMT
But isn't Pertwee dressed like Troughton when he stumbles out of the TARDIS? Maybe the Timelords put her back in 2’s clothes so it wouldn’t trigger any memories of being Ruth after she regenerated into 3🤔😉 If true I hope we get a scene like that. The Timelords regenerate her into Pertwee leave the TARDIS then suddenly, "Oh sh1t! The clothes!" & hurry back lol
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 28, 2020 14:27:49 GMT
Maybe the Timelords put her back in 2’s clothes so it wouldn’t trigger any memories of being Ruth after she regenerated into 3🤔😉 If true I hope we get a scene like that. The Timelords regenerate her into Pertwee leave the TARDIS then suddenly, "Oh sh1t! The clothes!" & hurry back lol and they'd have to be in full Timelord robes while doing it lol
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Post by timegirl on Jan 28, 2020 14:36:34 GMT
If we are right about RuthDoctor being a regeneration between 2 and 3, I hope we get flashbacks with how 2 regenerated into her as well, as well as her regenerating into 3😊 I know 3 would be best played by Sean Pertwee but who should play 2?🤔 I don’t know why but maybe Reese Shearsmith🤔🙂
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Post by Digi on Jan 28, 2020 14:50:44 GMT
God I really hope they don’t shoehorn in another ‘lost incarnation.’ For me that’s a story conceit that can only work once without feeling ridiculous.
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Post by timegirl on Jan 28, 2020 15:05:43 GMT
God I really hope they don’t shoehorn in another ‘lost incarnation.’ For me that’s a story conceit that can only work once without feeling ridiculous. If not past maybe she is either the next Doctor and they have just introduced us to her early or she is incarnation from far into the Doctor’s future🤔
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 16:13:18 GMT
I speculated when the Timeless Child thing came up that I think the child will somehow be the secret of regeneration or time-travel and the Gallifreyans used her , harnessed her somehow to steal her powers for their own use. I'm not sure how much the Timeless Child is tying into these new developments or if we're seeing two separate arcs going on - maybe one for the season and one for the era....but I'm really loving trying to piece it all together.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jan 28, 2020 16:29:44 GMT
Yeah, well the Valeyard is/was the Doctor too, and we still don't know where he fits in so...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 16:42:37 GMT
Yeah, well the Valeyard is/was the Doctor too, and we still don't know where he fits in so... Somewhere between The Doctor's 12th and final incarnations probably seemed a lot easier to place back when it was written and the prospect of getting all the way through the 13 lives seemed remote but yeah, really The Valeyard is anywhere from Tennant's regen in Journey's End onwards through the new cycle, I suppose. I don't think we'll see The Valeyard on screen again but it was nice Moffat put the shout out in Name Of The Doctor. It's always nice when "our" eras of the show get recognition like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 17:17:17 GMT
I love this pic so much it's my new cover photo on Facebook. It just screams DOCTOR.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 17:30:50 GMT
I speculated when the Timeless Child thing came up that I think the child will somehow be the secret of regeneration or time-travel and the Gallifreyans used her , harnessed her somehow to steal her powers for their own use. I'm not sure how much the Timeless Child is tying into these new developments or if we're seeing two separate arcs going on - maybe one for the season and one for the era....but I'm really loving trying to piece it all together. Me to. & that clip we saw when the Master mentioned the Timeless Child, I assumed the young girl in the clip was the Timeless Child but maybe it's the DrRuth? Or maybe it's both, 13 remembering a fragment of when she was the Timeless Child. I now don't think this arc will be completed this season. But maybe the Lone Cyberman one will as we have Cyberman episode coming up.
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 28, 2020 18:51:23 GMT
Maybe she is indeed a Season 6B Alt-Third Doctor set post World Game but pre-Spearhead. When she went running again and was caught they took away that regeneration, gave her a new one and wiped her memory so that it went straight from Troughton to Pertwee or i could be completely wrong lol But isn't Pertwee dressed like Troughton when he stumbles out of the TARDIS? As far as I remember he is wearing Pertwee's cape when he falls out of the TARDIS.
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Post by agentten on Jan 28, 2020 18:55:03 GMT
Found this image for those interested in Three's clothing when he first appears.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 18:56:07 GMT
But isn't Pertwee dressed like Troughton when he stumbles out of the TARDIS? As far as I remember he is wearing Pertwee's cape when he falls out of the TARDIS. He doesn't get the Pertwee cape outfit till he nicks it from the hospital later on in the ep.
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Post by scriptortempore on Jan 28, 2020 18:56:42 GMT
But isn't Pertwee dressed like Troughton when he stumbles out of the TARDIS? As far as I remember he is wearing Pertwee's cape when he falls out of the TARDIS. Nope! He gets the cape and the rest from a hospital.
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Post by scriptortempore on Jan 28, 2020 18:59:40 GMT
Found this image for those interested in Three's clothing when he first appears.
If I recall correctly, one of the less significant bits of evidence cited to support the season 6B theory was that the clothes weren't exactly what troughton last had on. Perhaps Chibnall doesn't care about the two doctors and the content produced set during 6B by none other than Terrance dicks himself, but he just cannot stand canon inconsistencies in costumes
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Post by agentten on Jan 28, 2020 19:02:35 GMT
I'm going to have to rewatch this week's episode for the details, and maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it struck me that we've now heard of the wide scale destruction of a third major Who race. First, it was Gallifrey at the beginning of the season, then a few weeks ago we saw the possible destruction of the human race as we know it, and this week Jack seems to suggest that the Cybermen have been wiped out.
I grant that there are not enough details to come to any conclusions, but I thought it was interesting. It's as if the universe around the Doctor is rewriting itself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 19:04:48 GMT
Found this image for those interested in Three's clothing when he first appears.
If I recall correctly, one of the less significant bits of evidence cited to support the season 6B theory was that the clothes weren't exactly what troughton last had on. Perhaps Chibnall doesn't care about the two doctors and the content produced set during 6B by none other than Terrance dicks himself, but he just cannot stand canon inconsistencies in costumes I've always thought it was supposed to be Troughton's costume. From a real world POV...they weren't gonna go to the expense and effort of getting a Troughton costume for the taller Pertwee for the sake of a 2 second fall so they put something Troughtonish on him and didn't go in close up.
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 28, 2020 19:07:57 GMT
I'm going to have to rewatch this week's episode for the details, and maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it struck me that we've now heard of the wide scale destruction of a third major Who race. First, it was Gallifrey at the beginning of the season, then a few weeks ago we saw the possible destruction of the human race as we know it, and this week Jack seems to suggest that the Cybermen have been wiped out. I grant that there are not enough details to come to any conclusions, but I thought it was interesting. It's as if the universe around the Doctor is rewriting itself. Yeah, I had the same thought! I have the suspicion that something similar as with the "Big Bang" and the Pandorica is going on. Would explain all the parallel universe stuff that we get shown.
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Post by scriptortempore on Jan 28, 2020 19:23:27 GMT
If I recall correctly, one of the less significant bits of evidence cited to support the season 6B theory was that the clothes weren't exactly what troughton last had on. Perhaps Chibnall doesn't care about the two doctors and the content produced set during 6B by none other than Terrance dicks himself, but he just cannot stand canon inconsistencies in costumes I've always thought it was supposed to be Troughton's costume. From a real world POV...they weren't gonna go to the expense and effort of getting a Troughton costume for the taller Pertwee for the sake of a 2 second fall so they put something Troughtonish on him and didn't go in close up. Yes I never noticed any significant difference myself, certainly no worse than the rather noticeable costume changes in some regenerations. I did mention above that Terrance dicks work set in series 6B and that does make me further doubt the between 2 and 3 theory as a I don't see chibnall rendering the world game book by Terrance invalidish so soon. Yes, the stories were probably written and planned well in advance but I don't know, the BBC has edited and cut scripts for relatively recent news stories before so I think Terrance dicks passing would probably cause chibnall to rethink. Aside from that, there is of course the things others have mentioned about the Doctor not recognising the sonic which wouldn't add up. It does remind me of one fantheory about time repeating itself in the whoniverse with numerous doctors rebelling against gallifreys in a constant but slightly different cycle. I personally still expect that either Ruth Doctor or 13 herself (now wouldn't that be a controversial and unlikely decision) will be an alternative universe version of the Doctor. Or at best some kind of clone. Whilst chibnall has said otherwise, I always say wait and see because if anyone has played Arkham Knight you'll know why I'm cautious about these sorts of announcements. All that said I do hope Ruth is a future Doctor, the actress seemed very comfortable in the role. Whilst I don't like the costume (sue me!) and the usual the Doctor doesn't use weapons lines, Ruth seemed to have the right shades of the manipulative Doctor I love along with a Doctor who just seemed really personable and like a normal person, if that makes sense? Ruth already reminded me of a lot of people I know so perhaps it is that.
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