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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2020 14:59:46 GMT
Jack’s in it...I don’t mind waiting swap you houses Hmmm.... New Years lockdown in Scotland.... wonder if that is any better than here...
A house with four walls keeping in the heat ....nah much same except we can watch Captain Jack imagine how thrilled I am at that prospect- I rewatched that Judoon story the other day where he appears and says did you miss me and my inner voice went-nah F@@k aff
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Post by tuigirl on Dec 31, 2020 16:35:11 GMT
Maybe a stupid question and most likely nobody here knows. I ask anyways. The last festive specials, I could pre-order days in advance on amazon and itunes. This time, this is notably absent. So for people outside the UK and the US, there is no chance to actually stream this tomorrow? (legally, I mean, without jumping through complicated teck wizard hoops) Oh well, means we lowly fans from exotic locations have to wait. I don’t know exactly how it works but I have heard if you use a VPN you can change or hide your online location , that way you could possibly watch the special on a British or American streaming service. I think there are some VPNs that are free or at least haven free trials. Hope this helps 🙂 Since I do not exactly have a degree in IT, I would not even know where to begin with this (or what "VPN" even means... ).
I am already challenged with starting a meeting on Zoom.... But thanks for the suggestion...
I shall certainly give that a try! Thanks!
I really liked that episode!
I just ignored Jack, because the rest of it was brilliant.
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Dec 31, 2020 23:35:12 GMT
Maybe a stupid question and most likely nobody here knows. I ask anyways. The last festive specials, I could pre-order days in advance on amazon and itunes. This time, this is notably absent. So for people outside the UK and the US, there is no chance to actually stream this tomorrow? (legally, I mean, without jumping through complicated teck wizard hoops) Oh well, means we lowly fans from exotic locations have to wait. I can't guarantee anything, unfortunately, but ABC iView have been trying to push for region-free content with their app and website. With any luck, it might show up for viewing not tomorrow, but the day after? Just checked the iview app: it’s being released there at 7am AEST (about 21 hours from now).
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Post by shallacatop on Jan 1, 2021 11:26:05 GMT
Happy New Year!
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Post by shallacatop on Jan 1, 2021 17:17:14 GMT
Just to let you all know, there’s a New Year “message of hope” from David Attenborough at 19:57 tonight on BBC One. It’s part of the slot for Revolution of the Daleks, so don’t expect it to take up the full 75 minutes it’s been allocated!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 18:42:38 GMT
"The wait is almost over," says the BBC announcer. "The Daleks are back. Brand new Doctor Who - next."
Suddenly I have become 9 years old again and am ridiculously excited.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 1, 2021 20:00:24 GMT
I'm feeling very conflicted on this one. Strangely, I think this episode provides an explanation for why 'Can You Hear Me' turned out the way it did, because so much of this episode was exactly like it in terms of structure and approach. A lot going on, perhaps too much for its own good.
Entertaining? Yes. But the right choices? I'm noodling.
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Post by mark687 on Jan 1, 2021 20:03:06 GMT
Well there we have it.
Interestingly Jodie seemed her most comfortable yet, particularly opposite Barrowmen
Future development for Yaz well sign posted, decent enough Swan Song for Brad and Tosin
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 20:05:09 GMT
Well, I thought that was a shedload of fun. I won't list all the reasons, because they're probably the same as others enjoyed. But there were some nice nods to the past, some good jokes, a slightly toned-down Captain Jack, some incredible special effects, lots of exterminations and a really good send-off for two favourites. I'm glad Graham and Ryan simply decided to leave the Doctor. That doesn't seem to have happened with companions/friends for a long time. Not until Grace, perhaps, all those years ago? (Edit - how could I forget Martha's departure?) And I didn't realise John Bishop was going to be the new companion, which is heavily implied. Interesting ... I just have one small question ... ... that Dalek/Service Drone we saw at the beginning, dousing the crowd with water cannons. Just where does he keep his water supply?
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Post by mark687 on Jan 1, 2021 20:06:07 GMT
I'm feeling very conflicted on this one. Strangely, I think this episode provides an explanation for why 'Can You Hear Me' turned out the way it did, because so much of this episode was exactly like it in terms of structure and approach. A lot going on, perhaps too much for its own good. Agreed but i think Ryan's departure should still have been at the end of Can You Hear Me? Regards mark687
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jan 1, 2021 20:18:52 GMT
Went on a bit, and didn't really give Ryan and Grahame too much to do, but there have been worse episodes. Mind you, that false ending could be an own-goal
{Spoiler} The continuity announcer says to stay tuned for a special announcement, and then we get the caption "The Doctor Will Return" - many would have turned over at that point without seeing the John Bishop sequence. And that's another problem, because many of us interpreted it as Bishop being the Doctor, whereas apparently it's been officially confirmed that he's a companion called Dan. And that's really bad, because with John Bishop as the Doctor, we could have had Michael McIntyre as the Master! Or perhaps Bishop would be better as the Monk?
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Post by shallacatop on Jan 1, 2021 20:32:07 GMT
I enjoyed that. A story of two halves; the Dalek plot and the Fam plot.
The latter quite rightly dominated. Yaz’s reaction when the Doctor comes back shocked me, but it worked well, I felt. Ryan’s scene with the Doctor aboard the TARDIS was lovely; I’ve felt he’s been the weakest of the trio, certainly since Resolution, but this was a standout moment. Bradley Walsh continues to steal the show as Graham, despite a lack of screentime; he didn’t get the equivalent that Yaz & Ryan got, which I felt was a shame for his final episode. The departure is beautifully played by the four leads and the epilogue was touching. I wish they removed the lines about them saving the earth and people after leaving the Doctor; it doesn’t feel appropriate for how grounded the two of them are and slightly goes against Graham’s decision for leaving. The continuation of their opening scene and the glimpse of Grace brought a tear to my eye; I lost my mum just a few months before Jodie’s first series aired, so the Grace arc, specifically Graham’s reaction to it, has really spoken to me.
Not a massive amount to say about the Dalek storyline. It takes a back seat to the character stuff, but I liked that it felt a natural continuation of Resolution and I really liked the Dalek Death Squad (does Chibnall have an anti-plunger agenda?!) and the ship set.
Apart from rescuing the Doctor from prison, Jack felt superfluous to requirements. A nice turn from Barrowman, but if he’s going to dip in and out of this tenure, then it’d be nice if he had more meaningful appearances than Jack-paint-by-numbers.
Special mention to the UHD on BBC iPlayer. The HDR was lovely, especially the title sequence and TARDIS!
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Post by shallacatop on Jan 1, 2021 20:34:31 GMT
This John Bishop stuff is news to me. I watched the UHD on iPlayer, which ended on THE DOCTOR WILL RETURN (very Bond-esque!) and the Chibnall / Strevens credits, as an episode usually would. Seems a strange omission.
Can anyone shed any light?
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Post by sherlock on Jan 1, 2021 20:34:48 GMT
That was fine. I don’t dislike any element of it, but it just kinda added up to less than the sum of its parts.
It felt like every creative decision went down a less interesting path than it could’ve. For example “the Doctor in prison whilst the Fam deal with an invasion“ setup lasts for about ten minutes, and then we move on. The “Daleks as metaphor for police brutality” is explored a bit, and then dropped.
Ryan got more character development here than in the entirety of Series 12, Yaz’s stuff was interesting and Graham was just kinda there. Thank goodness the TARDIS team has been reduced, as it’s become clear that three companions is just too many.
Jack was also present. Rather like Fugitive, he’s here for a plot function, not because his actual character changes or offers a particularly unique angle to the story.
The Daleks do exactly what you’d expect the Daleks to do.
It honestly felt a bit like the stories you see in the epanced universe or fanfic. Some slighty new ideas, but the characters do exactly what you’d expect the characters to do and it’s all wrapped up quickly and neatly. It’s not bad, just not especially brilliant either.
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Post by sherlock on Jan 1, 2021 20:35:45 GMT
This John Bishop stuff is news to me. I watched the UHD on iPlayer, which ended on THE DOCTOR WILL RETURN (very Bond-esque!) and the Chibnall / Strevens credits, as an episode usually would. Seems a strange omission. Can anyone shed any light? After the credits rolled the continuity announcer said that an announcement was coming and they played a short clip of John Bishop. It’s since been confirmed he’s playing a companion called Dan.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jan 1, 2021 20:37:49 GMT
This John Bishop stuff is news to me. I watched the UHD on iPlayer, which ended on THE DOCTOR WILL RETURN (very Bond-esque!) and the Chibnall / Strevens credits, as an episode usually would. Seems a strange omission. Can anyone shed any light?
Yeah, there was a post-credits scene. Will try and find a copy of it for you.
EDIT: Got it.
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Post by IndieMacUser on Jan 1, 2021 20:38:09 GMT
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Post by shallacatop on Jan 1, 2021 20:40:39 GMT
This John Bishop stuff is news to me. I watched the UHD on iPlayer, which ended on THE DOCTOR WILL RETURN (very Bond-esque!) and the Chibnall / Strevens credits, as an episode usually would. Seems a strange omission. Can anyone shed any light? After the credits rolled the continuity announcer said that an announcement was coming and they played a short clip of John Bishop. It’s since been confirmed he’s playing a companion called Dan. Ah, okay, thanks sherlock! EDIT: And thanks fitzoliverj!
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Post by shallacatop on Jan 1, 2021 20:48:28 GMT
One thing that does make me smirk in the last few episodes is the stuff with Yaz & Graham that came out of nowhere! They didn’t have one conversation in Series 11 apart from a brief scene in Demons of the Punjab. I don’t recall them really having any exchanges in Series 12 until The Timeless Child, where Graham says how proud he is of her, etc. which is then carried on in Revolution of the Daleks.
It’s a lovely idea for an arc, but it doesn’t feel earned and is a big downside to such a large TARDIS team, despite liking them all.
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Jan 1, 2021 20:53:05 GMT
I enjoyed that a lot.
Solid alien invasion story, with some good character drama (even if Grace appearing was a skosh too far for me.)
I'm hoping some of the reconnaissance Daleks got away. I like their designs, and it'd be cool to have some potential civil war stories in the future. I guess if those Daleks can survive, consciousness and all, from a single cell, we probably haven't seen the last of them.
The John Bishop reveal wasn't positively received in my household though.
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