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Post by shallacatop on Jan 12, 2021 8:22:15 GMT
Right... uhd... any idea how i can watch it in uhd? Hope this has some info for you www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55430997I believe the last two series have been shot with 4K cameras yet the only Who release ever in UHD is Twice Upon A Time, a standalone ep. I don't know if the BBC are waiting to see if it's worth their time releasing 4K sets or not but I suspect they're merely future proofing so they have the highest quality for selling the show. And if nothing else they’ll probably be airing Series 13 on iPlayer in UHD simultaneously, as they did with Revolution, A Perfect Planet, His Dark Materials, etc. Maybe even upload Series 11 & 12 too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 11:06:11 GMT
Hope this has some info for you www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55430997I believe the last two series have been shot with 4K cameras yet the only Who release ever in UHD is Twice Upon A Time, a standalone ep. I don't know if the BBC are waiting to see if it's worth their time releasing 4K sets or not but I suspect they're merely future proofing so they have the highest quality for selling the show. And if nothing else they’ll probably be airing Series 13 on iPlayer in UHD simultaneously, as they did with Revolution, A Perfect Planet, His Dark Materials, etc. Maybe even upload Series 11 & 12 too. Yes, exactly - so shooting S11 and 12 in that format allows for it to be done retrospectively if the format takes off more with the public. Then as you say, they've got it to upload. And if having 4K quality is a deal breaker for international sales - that's done too. Streaming is an odd beast to me, or rather people's acceptance of it quality wise. -People talk about Netflix things in HD when the bit rate is nowhere near that quality by the time it reaches the screen. Just like DAB redio which streams at a lot less quality than an average MP3 file. Digital radio streams at less than half the quality of a BF download, and that's playing dialogue mostly. Yet there's no clamour for 4K Who that I see bar the odd post. Maybe fans, and this is probably the case, have enough keeping up with the classic bluray sets, the animations, the new series etc. Not to mention BF and ancillary product. I've got a 4K TV and player but don't own Twice Upon A Time, I will need to remedy that as seeing Who in 4K once would be lovely.
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Post by shallacatop on Jan 12, 2021 11:34:40 GMT
And if nothing else they’ll probably be airing Series 13 on iPlayer in UHD simultaneously, as they did with Revolution, A Perfect Planet, His Dark Materials, etc. Maybe even upload Series 11 & 12 too. Yes, exactly - so shooting S11 and 12 in that format allows for it to be done retrospectively if the format takes off more with the public. Then as you say, they've got it to upload. And if having 4K quality is a deal breaker for international sales - that's done too. Streaming is an odd beast to me, or rather people's acceptance of it quality wise. -People talk about Netflix things in HD when the bit rate is nowhere near that quality by the time it reaches the screen. Just like DAB redio which streams at a lot less quality than an average MP3 file. Digital radio streams at less than half the quality of a BF download, and that's playing dialogue mostly. Yet there's no clamour for 4K Who that I see bar the odd post. Maybe fans, and this is probably the case, have enough keeping up with the classic bluray sets, the animations, the new series etc. Not to mention BF and ancillary product. I've got a 4K TV and player but don't own Twice Upon A Time, I will need to remedy that as seeing Who in 4K once would be lovely. Oh I agree completely. The streaming services offering HD or 4K, etc. are compressed massively compared to receiving the discs. I do understand the acceptance of the HDR, however, as it is a notable improvement on HD, but in turn getting the same show / film on disc is a further notable improvement without the compression. And I think it's the HDR that people compliment / accept rather than the 4K itself. You could say the same for watching it on disc too; it depends entirely on your home set up. I know I enjoyed watching Revolution of the Daleks on iPlayer in UHD and the wider range and depth of colour, but I know the definitive would be to have it on disc at home. I too would like 4K Who, but we are also still at a stage where it's substantially dearer than Blu-ray, which is amplified with TV shows and box sets. I don't think there's still the demand at the moment, most probably due the cost and also trying to collect the other Doctor Who ranges that are going. The prices are getting better, especially thanks to many retailers now adopting 3 for £30, and Disney's recent 3 for £36 push, but I think they've still got a little way to go yet. That's if they do. I think other factors can be the lack of 4K players available to fans and also whether they deem the difference to be noticeable enough, which links back to setup. I don't think it's as clear or obvious on how to get the most out of 4K, HDR, Dolby Vision, etc. than it was getting into Blu-ray. Essentially, I think we're in agreement and both want Who in 4K, but do understand the reasons against that! I'm not sure about the work done to Twice Upon A Time - if it was filmed in 4K or upscaled to test the market - but it's one of the loveliest examples of HDR I can think of. Especially the TARDIS interior and regeneration stuff.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 13, 2021 14:20:59 GMT
On another note, I've seen people complain that the Doctor using the spare Tardis to wipe out the Daleks was heartless and cruel.
1) The show tends to play fast and loose with how sentient Tardises tend to be. We don't even know what model this one was. 2) Given it was one on Gallifrey, I'm sure that Tardis is more than aware what Daleks are and what they did. I don't it would be a stretch to assume it was more than willing to consent. 3) Even if it didn't, I don't think it would object to saving billions of lives by crushing a bunch of Daleks.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 22, 2021 14:37:19 GMT
On another note, I've seen people complain that the Doctor using the spare Tardis to wipe out the Daleks was heartless and cruel. 1) The show tends to play fast and loose with how sentient Tardises tend to be. We don't even know what model this one was. 2) Given it was one on Gallifrey, I'm sure that Tardis is more than aware what Daleks are and what they did. I don't it would be a stretch to assume it was more than willing to consent. 3) Even if it didn't, I don't think it would object to saving billions of lives by crushing a bunch of Daleks. Something that just occurred to me: how did those people feel about Eleven cannibalising TARDIS parts and bringing those bits back to life temporarily in The Doctor’s Wife?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 6:23:14 GMT
On another note, I've seen people complain that the Doctor using the spare Tardis to wipe out the Daleks was heartless and cruel. 1) The show tends to play fast and loose with how sentient Tardises tend to be. We don't even know what model this one was. 2) Given it was one on Gallifrey, I'm sure that Tardis is more than aware what Daleks are and what they did. I don't it would be a stretch to assume it was more than willing to consent. 3) Even if it didn't, I don't think it would object to saving billions of lives by crushing a bunch of Daleks. Something that just occurred to me: how did those people feel about Eleven cannibalising TARDIS parts and bringing those bits back to life temporarily in The Doctor’s Wife? Speaking as part of the crowd that winces when a time-honoured starship gets the tar beaten out of it: the crumpled TARDIS was hard to watch, but it was a pretty brave thing for it to do, I thought. I think the Doctor and it likely had a chat beforehand to see whether or not it was okay with the plan. The gadgeteering touch feels very Thirteen. In terms of The Doctor's Wife... That opened up a rather interesting question regarding at what point sentience begins in a TARDIS. Broadly speaking, we identify that state as the capacity to subjectively sense and feel. So... Are component parts, in and of themselves, capable of sentience or is it the amalgamation of components that manifests that TARDIS's "liveliness"? And, if it is an amalgamation, does a Ship need to get to a specific "mass" to qualify for that sentience or does it begin small from a hodgepodge?
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 23, 2021 8:17:14 GMT
Something that just occurred to me: how did those people feel about Eleven cannibalising TARDIS parts and bringing those bits back to life temporarily in The Doctor’s Wife? Speaking as part of the crowd that winces when a time-honoured starship gets the tar beaten out of it: the crumpled TARDIS was hard to watch, but it was a pretty brave thing for it to do, I thought. I think the Doctor and it likely had a chat beforehand to see whether or not it was okay with the plan. The gadgeteering touch feels very Thirteen. In terms of The Doctor's Wife... That opened up a rather interesting question regarding at what point sentience begins in a TARDIS. Broadly speaking, we identify that state as the capacity to subjectively sense and feel. So... Are component parts, in and of themselves, capable of sentience or is it the amalgamation of components that manifests that TARDIS's "liveliness"? And, if it is an amalgamation, does a Ship need to get to a specific "mass" to qualify for that sentience or does it begin small from a hodgepodge? Are you suggesting that the Doctor and Sexy built a TARDIS from body parts and reanimated it? A Frankenstein’s TARDIS?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 9:53:28 GMT
Speaking as part of the crowd that winces when a time-honoured starship gets the tar beaten out of it: the crumpled TARDIS was hard to watch, but it was a pretty brave thing for it to do, I thought. I think the Doctor and it likely had a chat beforehand to see whether or not it was okay with the plan. The gadgeteering touch feels very Thirteen. In terms of The Doctor's Wife... That opened up a rather interesting question regarding at what point sentience begins in a TARDIS. Broadly speaking, we identify that state as the capacity to subjectively sense and feel. So... Are component parts, in and of themselves, capable of sentience or is it the amalgamation of components that manifests that TARDIS's "liveliness"? And, if it is an amalgamation, does a Ship need to get to a specific "mass" to qualify for that sentience or does it begin small from a hodgepodge? Are you suggesting that the Doctor and Sexy built a TARDIS from body parts and reanimated it? A Frankenstein’s TARDIS? Yes. It's an intriguing prospect, isn't it? From memory, Idris saw the tract of land as less of a junkyard and more like a cemetery. The console room they constructed, however, wasn't able to operate without an external catalyst. A spark from her own matrix, in this case. That would seem to point to the idea that what gives the machines their ability to travel is a... a life-force, for want of a better term, that drives each technological function. Not to dissimilar to our own human bodies. Only here, the "lightning" to galvanise the form into action came from another of the body/bodies' kind, rather than an element of nature (although given how the Cardiff Rift operates, maybe that's possible too?).
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Post by IndieMacUser on Jan 26, 2021 18:39:31 GMT
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Mar 3, 2021 22:50:14 GMT
Late to the party. I knew I was waiting until its Blu-ray release, so when it was broadcast I asked David what he thought and he said it was average. He was right. Average. By-the-numbers. Not an original idea in play. Thank goodness for Bradley Walsh as he brought the only real emotion to the piece. And of course the show looked and sounded great. Also, really liked the Dalek redesign. A lot. It was the first time I felt like Whittaker seemed completely lost as the Doctor and I didn’t buy what she was selling at all. It didn’t help that in bringing back Jack Robertson, CC brought back perhaps the blandest baddie in the show’s history. I don’t even remember the name of the ambitious Tory PM. John Barrowman was well, John Barrowman. I liked the way the scenes with Yaz played out but again there was next to no depth on the scripting end. Coming off a really good series, this special just struck a weird, and very hollow note for me. Even by holiday special standards this was a disappointment.
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Post by Ela on Aug 19, 2021 0:49:49 GMT
I'm really late to the party. Just watched it today. The previous eight pages of this thread have gone over the pros and cons, the ins and outs, so I'm not going to rehash it. Overall, I enjoyed it quite a lot.
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