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Post by cwm on Mar 14, 2021 12:16:19 GMT
Why would there be another actor playing the First Doctor when there's already the Early Adventures with Purves and the 1DAs with Bradley? BF really don't need *three* different First Doctor ranges.
I also doubt we're getting Matt Smith in the short-to-medium term. The "full-cast" Dudman set coming in September is pretty much an admission of that.
Presuming we have gotten everything we are going to get out of Tennant in lockdown, post-COVID the 10DAs will probably return to normal - i.e. one set every 18 months or so, focus on "Saturday teatime in 2006/2008 all over again". I doubt we're getting anything full-cast with the metacrisis Doctor any time soon.
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 14, 2021 14:01:24 GMT
MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR AS-YET-UNANNOUNCED RELEASESSo, with the latest podcast revealing that The End of the Beginning is out this week, with news of the new ranges coming very soon, I think it's time for some speculation! Here are my predictions for what each of the Doctor's ranges will include, starting from 2022 (some of these are just based on small announced details): First Doctor: A new actor will be revealed in the role of 1, with new stories featuring Dodo and Steven Taylor, as well as boxsets with Ian, Barbara and Susan. In addition, there will be more Bradley stories as well. Second Doctor: A new actor will be revealed in the role of 2 (not Frazer Hines), and there will be development of Season 6B. There'll be new companions, and we'll find out what happened between The War Games and Spearhead From Space. Third Doctor: Potentially more 'Volumes' of the 3DAs, but there will also be standalone three-disc boxset arcs. Fourth Doctor: As with 3, continuation of the 4DAs but more boxset arcs as well. Fifth Doctor: More stories with Turlough and Tegan, and possibly some storylines about him as Lord President of Gallifrey. Sixth Doctor: Longer story arcs (possibly multi-boxset), with the return of his TV and audio companions (sadly minus Evelyn), and the return of Frobisher. Seventh Doctor: An exploration of what led up to the events of the TV movie. No Lungbarrow adaptation, but possibly some similar Gallifrey-lore based epics. Eighth Doctor: Continuation of the Dark Eyes/ Doom Coalition/ Ravenous/ Stranded storylines, but with smaller standalone boxsets as well. War Doctor: The War Doctor Begins, and possibly some other smaller-scale releases as well. Ninth Doctor: If Chris decides to do more, some stories with Rose, but sticking to the three-disc arcs. Tenth Doctor: Some smaller-scale arcs, but focusing more on doing interesting things with 10 rather than emulating the TV show. Possibly some meta-crisis Pete's World 10. One or two more Doctor Chronicles to be announced. Eleventh Doctor: Matt Smith will be announced as having recorded some stories, as well as one or two more Doctor Chronicles releases. Twelfth Doctor: Doubt they'll touch 12 for now. The initial announcement for the '22 ranges said "the first twelve incarnations of the Doctor", and since we know that there's more War Doctor stuff, I don't think there'll be anything for 12 yet. Other releases: More Lost Stories, and Audio Novels. In addition, there'll probably be some more special releases to come. First Doctor: i better hope Big Finish is smart to use John Guilor from Day of The Doctor and Planet of Giants Episode 4 Recon Second Doctor: Hopefully they will cast Christopher Tompson from The 4DA Comic Strip Adapations as his Troughton impression is amazing Third Doctor: three-disc boxset arcs? you mean the same Two Episodes per boxset? Seventh Doctor: Considering Lungbarrow is technically a Lost Story Script surely Big Finish could actually make it?
Eighth Doctor: As Long as it isnt 4 Boxsets thats fine and that Tania/Helen and Liv arent in it
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Post by cwm on Mar 14, 2021 14:06:32 GMT
They asked Marc Platt about the possibility of a Lungbarrow adaptation when the novel adaptations range was still going, and he wasn't keen on the idea by all accounts.
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Post by grinch on Mar 14, 2021 14:18:45 GMT
Considering the current series seems to be delving into the Doctor’s origins (as controversial as that may be) I doubt they’ll ever touch Lungbarrow in terms of producing an adaptation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 14:42:18 GMT
Well for one I love browsing the site now and seeing all the Doctors stories in their own little niche yes,it will help newcomers to the adventures perhaps find what they are looking for. I am sure also for planning purposes and availability it will be better I hope for the actors getting together for say three or four story recording blocks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 14:56:06 GMT
Honestly I'm just excited by even the suggestion that things can and will be shaken up more often. When BF launched the 8DAs to put McGann in a more New Who like "timeslot" it revitalised the character totally. When they went to box sets in a big way - 2012-ish with UNIT: Dominion and Dark Eyes (how are they nearly a decade old...?) it was so fresh and different. Being able to let the story dictate the format and not the other way around is a good thing, clearly. It's like streaming services - free from restraints of TV schedules they can have a 40min ep followed by a 65min one. Be 15 eps one run, then scale down to 9 the next year if the story isn't as broad. That all seems very liberating for BF and the writers.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Mar 14, 2021 15:05:33 GMT
Honestly I'm just excited by even the suggestion that things can and will be shaken up more often. When BF launched the 8DAs to put McGann in a more New Who like "timeslot" it revitalised the character totally. When they went to box sets in a big way - 2012-ish with UNIT: Dominion and Dark Eyes (how are they nearly a decade old...?) it was so fresh and different. Being able to let the story dictate the format and not the other way around is a good thing, clearly. It's like streaming services - free from restraints of TV schedules they can have a 40min ep followed by a 65min one. Be 15 eps one run, then scale down to 9 the next year if the story isn't as broad. That all seems very liberating for BF and the writers. Exactly. I really, really hope that the 10DAs are a sign of things to come - some three-story anthologies, some single-disc stories, some 3-boxest story arcs, and a single boxset arc in the upcoming Tenth Doctor, Classic Companions. Add in that the classic Doctors will also have 2-, 4- and 6-part stories, and there's going to be so many interesting things they can do.
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Post by constonks on Mar 14, 2021 16:00:04 GMT
They asked Marc Platt about the possibility of a Lungbarrow adaptation when the novel adaptations range was still going, and he wasn't keen on the idea by all accounts. I'd love to see some of those out of print books get audio releases if BF is done with adaptations. They're leaning more into audiobooks these days - even ones originally published by other companies - so why not get Sophie or Lisa to read some of the VNAs? (Maybe with Sylvester doing his parts as an added bonus). PS. I recognize the real reason "why not" may be that BBC Audio has the rights to the whole Who book catalogue but BF just does such good audiobooks...
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Post by thelonecenturion on Mar 14, 2021 16:28:19 GMT
They asked Marc Platt about the possibility of a Lungbarrow adaptation when the novel adaptations range was still going, and he wasn't keen on the idea by all accounts. I'd love to see some of those out of print books get audio releases if BF is done with adaptations. They're leaning more into audiobooks these days - even ones originally published by other companies - so why not get Sophie or Lisa to read some of the VNAs? (Maybe with Sylvester doing his parts as an added bonus). PS. I recognize the real reason "why not" may be that BBC Audio has the rights to the whole Who book catalogue but BF just does such good audiobooks... BBC Audio has the rights to the BBC Books releases and the Target releases. I'm not sure if they have the Virgin license.
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Post by cwm on Mar 14, 2021 18:16:59 GMT
There have been BBC Audiobook releases of one or two New and Missing Adventures.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Mar 14, 2021 18:32:39 GMT
Why would there be another actor playing the First Doctor when there's already the Early Adventures with Purves and the 1DAs with Bradley? BF really don't need *three* different First Doctor ranges.
I suspect that the rumours about recasting the first two Doctors is less to do with any specific evidence to draw upon than the personal preferences of the fans discussing it ("hey! I wish Omega would come back" = "Omega is definitely coming back, and so is Susan and the Rani and Paul McGann"). Granted, my scepticism is probably coloured by my preference for the Peter Purves first Doctor, but I have seen people posting elsewhere on line quite blatantly that Jon Culshaw is better than Tim Trelaw and shoudl replace him as no 3.
They asked Marc Platt about the possibility of a Lungbarrow adaptation when the novel adaptations range was still going, and he wasn't keen on the idea by all accounts.
Yes, he's done it three times already (tv, not made; "Ghost Light", made; novel, made); don't lets turn "Lungbarrow" into another "Shada". Come to think of it, when are we getting another "Shada"? We're up to three "Pirate Planet"s already, four if you count the fan novelisation.
BBC Audio has the rights to the BBC Books releases and the Target releases. I'm not sure if they have the Virgin license.
I'm not sure that that's how it works. The Virgin novels, and I think the BBC ones, and probably the Target ones, are owned by the individual authors and they'd be free to do what they liked with the properties if it wasn't for the fact that the BBC own the Doctor and other elements. The BBC imprints have even republished Virgin novels in hte past, on the BBC website and latterly in the Historical/Monster paperback reprints series. Now, what the delineation is between what BF produce and what BBC Audio produce is anyone's guess, but to do these audiobooks the publisher will have had to acquire individual rights from the rightsholders.
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Post by grinch on Mar 15, 2021 18:40:12 GMT
I do wonder whether when it comes to the First Doctor Adventures whether they’ll continue with him and the rest of the cast from ‘Space and Time” for future boxsets or shake it up everyone in a while and have Bradley opposite different companions.
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Post by muckypup on Mar 15, 2021 19:21:23 GMT
MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR AS-YET-UNANNOUNCED RELEASESSo, with the latest podcast revealing that The End of the Beginning is out this week, with news of the new ranges coming very soon, I think it's time for some speculation! Here are my predictions for what each of the Doctor's ranges will include, starting from 2022 (some of these are just based on small announced details): First Doctor: A new actor will be revealed in the role of 1, with new stories featuring Dodo and Steven Taylor, as well as boxsets with Ian, Barbara and Susan. In addition, there will be more Bradley stories as well. Second Doctor: A new actor will be revealed in the role of 2 (not Frazer Hines), and there will be development of Season 6B. There'll be new companions, and we'll find out what happened between The War Games and Spearhead From Space. Third Doctor: Potentially more 'Volumes' of the 3DAs, but there will also be standalone three-disc boxset arcs. Fourth Doctor: As with 3, continuation of the 4DAs but more boxset arcs as well. Fifth Doctor: More stories with Turlough and Tegan, and possibly some storylines about him as Lord President of Gallifrey. Sixth Doctor: Longer story arcs (possibly multi-boxset), with the return of his TV and audio companions (sadly minus Evelyn), and the return of Frobisher. Seventh Doctor: An exploration of what led up to the events of the TV movie. No Lungbarrow adaptation, but possibly some similar Gallifrey-lore based epics. Eighth Doctor: Continuation of the Dark Eyes/ Doom Coalition/ Ravenous/ Stranded storylines, but with smaller standalone boxsets as well. War Doctor: The War Doctor Begins, and possibly some other smaller-scale releases as well. Ninth Doctor: If Chris decides to do more, some stories with Rose, but sticking to the three-disc arcs. Tenth Doctor: Some smaller-scale arcs, but focusing more on doing interesting things with 10 rather than emulating the TV show. Possibly some meta-crisis Pete's World 10. One or two more Doctor Chronicles to be announced. Eleventh Doctor: Matt Smith will be announced as having recorded some stories, as well as one or two more Doctor Chronicles releases. Twelfth Doctor: Doubt they'll touch 12 for now. The initial announcement for the '22 ranges said "the first twelve incarnations of the Doctor", and since we know that there's more War Doctor stuff, I don't think there'll be anything for 12 yet. Other releases: More Lost Stories, and Audio Novels. In addition, there'll probably be some more special releases to come. First Doctor: i better hope Big Finish is smart to use John Guilor from Day of The Doctor and Planet of Giants Episode 4 Recon Second Doctor: Hopefully they will cast Christopher Tompson from The 4DA Comic Strip Adapations as his Troughton impression is amazing Third Doctor: three-disc boxset arcs? you mean the same Two Episodes per boxset? Seventh Doctor: Considering Lungbarrow is technically a Lost Story Script surely Big Finish could actually make it?
Eighth Doctor: As Long as it isnt 4 Boxsets thats fine and that Tania/Helen and Liv arent in it
didn't the author of lungbarrow (marc platt) say he didn't want big finish to do lungbarrow when they did the defunct novels range and wouldn't give permission
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Mar 16, 2021 1:34:14 GMT
If they cant do a Proper Adapt of Lungbarrow, i wouldnt mind seeing some elements used in a story or two
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Post by Timelord007 on Mar 16, 2021 7:47:01 GMT
Can't really make a judgment until i see what's in the product but i for one are very sad the monthly range has ended.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Mar 16, 2021 8:05:28 GMT
Can't really make a judgment until i see what's in the product but i for one are very sad the monthly range has ended. Why's that?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 12:59:38 GMT
I hope this hasn't been shared elsewhere. In a Sci-Fi Bulletin feature about the final monthly range release, there are some words about the future of our classic Doctors.
And here are a few choice words ...
“To anyone visiting us for the first time, trying to work out where to start or which set of adventures to embark upon first, it’s very confusing that each Doctor doesn’t have their own separate range. And that confusion creates a barrier between a potential listener and Big Finish, and a listener losing out. “The Big Finish Main/The Monthly Adventures range is like the bud on a flower – full of great stuff but locked in where no one can see it. By reorganising the way we release things, we’re not stopping/cancelling/ending anything. We’re simply allowing that bud to flower. “As it opens up, the detail of how beautiful all these exciting stories are is revealed. You can see which Doctors feature in which adventures. This really is the beginning of something very exciting. And as with all great Doctor Who, there will be something old, something new, something borrowed and, of course, something blue… vworp, vworp… Four-part stories, two-part stories, three-part stories… maybe even six-part stories. Exciting casting, old monsters, new monsters… so many thrilling adventures ahead.”
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Post by Timelord007 on Mar 16, 2021 13:19:28 GMT
Can't really make a judgment until i see what's in the product but i for one are very sad the monthly range has ended. Why's that? I like the 4 episode 120 minute structure, not every release needs be a 4 hr boxset, I'm hoping they still keep to the 4 episode format in future releases. I don't feel the current Fifth Doctor arc & Sixth Doctor & Constance/Flip been resolved yet.
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Post by mark687 on Mar 16, 2021 13:27:08 GMT
I still don't get the view a Range for every Doctor makes the overall Customer experience easier for new Customers
Also length of stories if the move is towards 3 or 4 disc boxsets I'm hoping we will still get a lot of self-cotained 4 and 2 part stories especialy as i think that format is the most comfortable for new customers
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 16, 2021 14:45:21 GMT
I still don't get the view a Range for every Doctor makes the overall Customer experience easier for new Customers Also length of stories if the move is towards 3 or 4 disc boxsets I'm hoping we will still get a lot of self-cotained 4 and 2 part stories especialy as i think that format is the most comfortable for new customers Regards mark687 Hmmm depends how they label the adventure boxsets Will it be like The “x” doctors volume 1 Or The “x” Doctor and “companion name” volume 1 Or The “x” Doctor- “insert title of Boxset here”
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