Recent releases- too caught up in self- references? Jan 22, 2022 20:32:40 GMT nitronine, aussiedoctorwhofan, and 1 more like this
Post by tuigirl on Jan 22, 2022 20:32:40 GMT
Right, going off on a pretty huge tangent.
Maybe it is just me being in a critical mood, or maybe I am seeing (hearing) things, so if inappropriate, feel free to lock the thread.
I have been on a hiatus from BF for about a year now, going back to some of the German dramas and now seeing them basically side by side in comparison.
I also compare with all the previous stories from BF.
Yes, I admit I am not completely in the loop.
But the few BF stories I listened to in the past year, most of them I had the same issues with.
They lack a certain spark of originality.
Maybe it is just me, but Stranded 3, Missy, River Song, UNIT, and now Charlotte Pollard..... some of these stories/ settings/ ideas.... don't they just look a bit samey?
Certain elements just keep repeating. And not even in any new fun and original ways.
I miss the times when they did really cool experimental stuff. Bold, shocking, heart-breaking.
Also.... it is slowly getting a bit much with all the over the top self-referencing, pop-culture referencing, or meta-joke making. Seriously? Some of these episodes have whole scenes that are nothing but self-referencing seemingly clever "did you spot what I did there". Yes, it is fun. Yes, I am laughing. But, can we concentrate at the story at hand? Please?
Look, I do not want to sound like the grumpy lady from the woods. I do not want to rain on anyone's parade. I apologize if I do. But I still have the hope I am not the only one seeing (hearing) these things?
I am also a huge fan of this 40 year old still running German audio series, and it also does things like that. It became quite an epidemic a while back when they thought they were very clever referencing all the old stories, and "see what we did there, remember, 30 years ago"? I am happy to report they have toned it down since then. Listeners were getting a bit fed up with it. Now, for the most part, we are back to just getting along with the stories. But for some reason, I see the same thing now happening in Who.
Talking about having a Deja Vu.
Yes, if there is a huge popular cultural icon, that everybody knows and loves, of course it will get referenced and of course it will be meta with itself. That is not the issue.
It is more the "too much of a good thing".
Also, just a random side observation.
Most of the performers for Big Finish are not audio only performers. They do other stuff, like act in TV and movies. Am I right?
In the German audio landscape, most of the most famous performers ONLY do audio work.
Most of them do dubbing for all the English speaking shows. Everything remotely foreign is dubbed in Germany.
But I think I can make out a difference between my favorite German audio performers and my BF heroes.
I think India Fisher comes close to what the German audio performers do. And I imagine I can hear a similar vibe from her. I love McGann to bits, but sometimes I can just tell that he is not really there.
India Fisher and also Colin (!!!) always make their audio presence felt.
my favorite German performers are true masters of their craft. They can (and do) sound like teenagers in the long running drama series, they act as hard boiled detectives, old vicious men, and one of them is even the German voice of Gollum from Lord of the Rings. You know the actor. You have grown up with him, his voice haunted you since you were a little kid. And still, he makes you believe that he also is all these other people, vicious, dark, monstrous, happy, cheerful, beaten old man and clever teenager.
Maybe I am too limited to BF and the roles these actors perform for BF. But somehow, I am totally missing that enormous range in most of the performers here.
I really love when an actor plays against his type, and I also love the wonderful meta storytelling when the writers know the expectations of the audience, and they use the actor in that way, and then out of nowhere, they completely subvert it. Bam!
Colin Baker in that Dark Shadows episode? Genius!
That junior detective every German loves, in a new adult crime story, hunting down the bad guys, using exactly the voice he does for all his junior detective stories.... and then Bam! suddenly juicy NSFW sex scene.
No one expected that. Most reviews on Amazon say "Man, I would never have guessed the man had such energy!"
Maybe it has just been too long for BF to be able to surprise me.
And no, I do NOT want any more "adult" outtakes, like they did for a few of the Torchwood audios. Just to clarify.
Anyways, thanks for bearing with me on my tangent. Now carry on. Or maybe let me know what you think, or give me a stern talk, or share your ideas and impressions.