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Post by newt5996 on Nov 1, 2022 23:33:19 GMT
So did the prices actually increase at all? Like I've been running dollars to pounds conversions and nothing that has been announced seems to have actually gone up in price outside of a slight 3-5 cent variable which may just be the daily fluctuation of the pound conversion since they are setting them once every 24 hours (at least in terms of pound value, yes the increase for currency conversion has happened but that hasn't changed the price like the announcement this thread was made for indicated)
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Post by mark687 on Nov 1, 2022 23:54:48 GMT
So did the prices actually increase at all? Like I've been running dollars to pounds conversions and nothing that has been announced seems to have actually gone up in price outside of a slight 3-5 cent variable which may just be the daily fluctuation of the pound conversion since they are setting them once every 24 hours (at least in terms of pound value, yes the increase for currency conversion has happened but that hasn't changed the price like the announcement this thread was made for indicated) No so far its not like the June warning was indicating that all pre order prices would change for everybody, it seems though that prices for any new pre orders not yet on site will be decided on a release by release basis. Regards mark687
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Post by newt5996 on Nov 2, 2022 2:24:34 GMT
So did the prices actually increase at all? Like I've been running dollars to pounds conversions and nothing that has been announced seems to have actually gone up in price outside of a slight 3-5 cent variable which may just be the daily fluctuation of the pound conversion since they are setting them once every 24 hours (at least in terms of pound value, yes the increase for currency conversion has happened but that hasn't changed the price like the announcement this thread was made for indicated) No so far its not like the June warning was indicating that all pre order prices would change for everybody, it seems though that prices for any new pre orders not yet on site will be decided on a release by release basis. Regards mark687 See that’s what I hate about the initial announcement. It was really vaguely worded which led me to believe all pre-orders would be increasing.
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Post by Whovitt on Nov 2, 2022 7:10:44 GMT
So did the prices actually increase at all? Like I've been running dollars to pounds conversions and nothing that has been announced seems to have actually gone up in price outside of a slight 3-5 cent variable which may just be the daily fluctuation of the pound conversion since they are setting them once every 24 hours (at least in terms of pound value, yes the increase for currency conversion has happened but that hasn't changed the price like the announcement this thread was made for indicated) No so far its not like the June warning was indicating that all pre order prices would change for everybody, it seems though that prices for any new pre orders not yet on site will be decided on a release by release basis.Regards mark687 Wait... does that mean that the text every news piece has had for the last however many months ("From November 2022, new prices will apply for unreleased box sets.") means that the new prices will apply only to products ANNOUNCED AFTER November 1st? As in, the whole "pre-order everything you want released after Nov 1 at the lower prices before the price rise" premise has been misinterpreting the situation and is 100% false, because the prices of every already announced release won't actually be affected at all? Is THAT what's going on? Because if it is, I think I have an e-mail or two to send to sales requesting a significant number of pre-order refunds made on the basis that the prices for certain items were going to increase from Nov 1... and didn't. There have been a number of very badly handled Big Finish PR moments, but this is easily the absolute worst I've seen in nearly 8 years of buying from them. What keeps making the situation worse is that we still don't actually have the faintest idea what's going on regarding the prices of pre-orders, because (as far as I've seen) there hasn't been one single official statement from BF saying anything about it. At all.
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Post by shallacatop on Nov 2, 2022 7:19:54 GMT
Yep, just a look at the Today’s Purchases thread on DU alone shows just how much extra people have been spending to save as much money before the price rises as possible, myself included. Only for the prices to not budge at all come 1st November. They’ve managed to cock up at every single avenue of this announcement and even their long due remedial action with overseas pricing was thrown in with just hours to spare, or indeed no time to spare if you’re in Australia.
As for the new pricing, remember when some of us said it just seemed like they weren’t sure and just going to get away with as much as possible? Or remember when some were mentioning how kind it was they’d given a four month lead time?
I’m not sure the usual sycophants could spin this into a positive.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Nov 2, 2022 7:39:48 GMT
Ok.. I have just check on 1 of my "I need to digital purchase" ranges. Bloodlust Vol 1 (stories 1-6) ( I bought from the Distinguished Competition).
2 days ago it was AUST $19.99... This morning it is now AUST $35.84 , same with Vol 2 7-13.
I will continue to monitor, that's almost a double in price increase..
Oh well..
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Post by lidar2 on Nov 2, 2022 7:54:00 GMT
Yep, just a look at the Today’s Purchases thread on DU alone shows just how much extra people have been spending to save as much money before the price rises as possible, myself included. Only for the prices to not budge at all come 1st November. They’ve managed to cock up at every single avenue of this announcement and even their long due remedial action with overseas pricing was thrown in with just hours to spare, or indeed no time to spare if you’re in Australia. As for the new pricing, remember when some of us said it just seemed like they weren’t sure and just going to get away with as much as possible? Or remember when some were mentioning how kind it was they’d given a four month lead time? I’m not sure the usual sycophants could spin this into a positive. Exactly. I too pre-ordered some stuff before 1 November to beat the price rise . . . only to find out I didn't need to. It's not a huge amount of money and it's all stuff I would have bought later anyway, so in practical terms it's not a major issue, but the principle of the thing is utterly wrong on BF's part. It feels like a con trick has been pkayed on UK customers and it leaves a bad taste. On the other hand, I am conscious that complaining about prices NOT going up is, in many ways, an inherently silly position to adopt and overseas customers must wonder what on earth UK cusomers have to complain about. But that all said, it still feels like a cheap con trick. Whether it was a cynical & deliberate ploy to boost sales short term or simply incompetent pricing/marketing I can't say, but even the "BF can do no wrong" squad on this forum will have a hard time defending this.
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Post by tuigirl on Nov 2, 2022 8:12:24 GMT
Yep, just a look at the Today’s Purchases thread on DU alone shows just how much extra people have been spending to save as much money before the price rises as possible, myself included. Only for the prices to not budge at all come 1st November. They’ve managed to cock up at every single avenue of this announcement and even their long due remedial action with overseas pricing was thrown in with just hours to spare, or indeed no time to spare if you’re in Australia. As for the new pricing, remember when some of us said it just seemed like they weren’t sure and just going to get away with as much as possible? Or remember when some were mentioning how kind it was they’d given a four month lead time? I’m not sure the usual sycophants could spin this into a positive. Exactly. I too pre-ordered some stuff before 1 November to beat the price rise . . . only to find out I didn't need to. It's not a huge amount of money and it's all stuff I would have bought later anyway, so in practical terms it's not a major issue, but the principle of the thing is utterly wrong on BF's part. It feels like a con trick has been pkayed on UK customers and it leaves a bad taste. On the other hand, I am conscious that complaining about prices NOT going up is, in many ways, an inherently silly position to adopt and overseas customers must wonder what on earth UK cusomers have to complain about. But that all said, it still feels like a cheap con trick. Whether it was a cynical & deliberate ploy to boost sales short term or simply incompetent pricing/marketing I can't say, but even the "BF can do no wrong" squad on this forum will have a hard time defending this. They just lost a sizeable proportion of their overseas market with doubling the prices in for example Canada and Oz. With also angering the UK customer base, I am not sure how much they are "winning" at the moment.....
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Post by sherlock on Nov 2, 2022 9:21:00 GMT
That’s the most baffling thing; they spent months hyping up warnings over imminent price rises…and then didn’t do them?
Like don’t get me wrong I’m not unhappy with that twist but what on earth were they thinking. They only corrected the record on this yesterday so either they made the decisions at the absolute last possible moment or deliberately didn’t clarify things till yesterday knowing some were splurging on pre orders precisely because of this Sword of Damocles. Neither scenario reflects well on their business practices.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Nov 3, 2022 16:44:57 GMT
This is......I honestly dont know what this is. Its crazy
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Post by timleschild on Nov 3, 2022 17:23:14 GMT
This is......I honestly dont know what this is. Its crazy incompetency
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Post by theillusiveman on Nov 4, 2022 6:47:31 GMT
It’s going to be very interesting the next couple of months and how sales will be effected by the price hike
Especially with the rumour that’s come up that BadWolf and The BBC are looking at audible to create a new audio brand (14/15th Doctor era audios along with fan podcasts, etc)
Apparently the rumour was on discord server that a YouTuber covered
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Post by thelonecenturion on Nov 4, 2022 8:13:24 GMT
It’s going to be very interesting the next couple of months and how sales will be effected by the price hike Especially with the rumour that’s come up that BadWolf and The BBC are looking at audible to create a new audio brand (14/15th Doctor era audios along with fan podcasts, etc)
Apparently the rumour was on discord server that a YouTuber covered If this happens, I'll bet that Audible will be the distributor but that production will be handled by BF. RTD has been a BF supporter for years and years now, it would be very odd for him not to give them first refusal on something like this.
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Post by shallacatop on Nov 4, 2022 8:31:00 GMT
It’s going to be very interesting the next couple of months and how sales will be effected by the price hike Especially with the rumour that’s come up that BadWolf and The BBC are looking at audible to create a new audio brand (14/15th Doctor era audios along with fan podcasts, etc)
Apparently the rumour was on discord server that a YouTuber covered If this happens, I'll bet that Audible will be the distributor but that production will be handled by BF. RTD has been a BF supporter for years and years now, it would be very odd for him not to give them first refusal on something like this. I agree. It will likely be similar to Destiny of the Doctor, with Audible being a more accessible location than buying directly from Big Finish and the pricing associated with that. No criticism of BF there, but it’s free trials / £7.99 a month versus whatever the BF charge will be depending on the type of release. Although I wouldn’t actually be surprised if it’s BBC Sounds rather than Audible. Ultimately I don’t think anything in those rumours will adversely impact BF. They’re offering a different product in the sense they’re not using the same Doctors, companions, etc. and have secured their licence til 2030.
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Post by sherlock on Nov 4, 2022 8:59:49 GMT
It’s going to be very interesting the next couple of months and how sales will be effected by the price hike Especially with the rumour that’s come up that BadWolf and The BBC are looking at audible to create a new audio brand (14/15th Doctor era audios along with fan podcasts, etc) Apparently the rumour was on discord server that a YouTuber covered As 90% of what BBC Audio produces already appears on Audible, I’d suspect wires crossed somewhere. Possibly it’s another for-BBC Sounds production like Redacted though maybe this time with Audible distributing as well, since Redacted hasn’t appeared on there unlike pretty much everything else BBC Audio produces.
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Post by lidar2 on Nov 4, 2022 9:22:04 GMT
It’s going to be very interesting the next couple of months and how sales will be effected by the price hike Especially with the rumour that’s come up that BadWolf and The BBC are looking at audible to create a new audio brand (14/15th Doctor era audios along with fan podcasts, etc) Apparently the rumour was on discord server that a YouTuber covered Maybe this rumoured new brand is merely a replacement for the BBC audio originals, which have co-existed with BF for years now? It is notable that the audio originals, whilst still putting out good stories, have all been focussed on past Doctors since 2018. I don't think there have been any with 13, whereas previously they had featured the "current" incarnation (50th anniversary Destiny of the Dr & Hornet's Nest excepted). In the past we had BF doing older docs and BBC audio originals doing the current doctor, which had a logic to it, but now BBC audio originals are basically BF-lite, you have to ask what is the point in them. Relaunching current Doctor audios, which BF can't do, makes sense - and if they decide to do it through audible instead of BBC audio, then I don't see a major issue.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 9:53:29 GMT
It’s going to be very interesting the next couple of months and how sales will be effected by the price hike Especially with the rumour that’s come up that BadWolf and The BBC are looking at audible to create a new audio brand (14/15th Doctor era audios along with fan podcasts, etc)
Apparently the rumour was on discord server that a YouTuber covered If this happens, I'll bet that Audible will be the distributor but that production will be handled by BF. RTD has been a BF supporter for years and years now, it would be very odd for him not to give them first refusal on something like this. I'm not saying I believe the Audible story or not but I think we have to separate the roles of RTD here. In his first run, he wasn't going to make anything out of a deal with BF or if the audios were brought in house as the BBC wanted. In the new deal though, he has a financial interest in Doctor Who doing well and a responsibilty to the stakeholders in Bad Wolf to maximise profit margins. What would have been a favour 15-20 years back is now a financial decision. I wouldn't expect anyone to put their support for a friendly company over that. Worth bearing in mind though this is for the soft-reboot we are about to see. BF are licenced up for 7 more years after this one. At that stage...well, a lot of the casts will be quite an age and who knows what the state of affairs will be anyway. Even Jason and Nick will be in their mid 60s.
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Post by timleschild on Nov 4, 2022 10:10:50 GMT
It’s going to be very interesting the next couple of months and how sales will be effected by the price hike Especially with the rumour that’s come up that BadWolf and The BBC are looking at audible to create a new audio brand (14/15th Doctor era audios along with fan podcasts, etc) Apparently the rumour was on discord server that a YouTuber covered As 90% of what BBC Audio produces already appears on Audible, I’d suspect wires crossed somewhere. Possibly it’s another for-BBC Sounds production like Redacted though maybe this time with Audible distributing as well, since Redacted hasn’t appeared on there unlike pretty much everything else BBC Audio produces. I agree, & I wonder if anyone has a link to the rumour that was on a discord server that a YouTuber covered?
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Post by mark687 on Nov 4, 2022 10:22:50 GMT
If this happens, I'll bet that Audible will be the distributor but that production will be handled by BF. RTD has been a BF supporter for years and years now, it would be very odd for him not to give them first refusal on something like this. I'm not saying I believe the Audible story or not but I think we have to separate the roles of RTD here. In his first run, he wasn't going to make anything out of a deal with BF or if the audios were brought in house as the BBC wanted. In the new deal though, he has a financial interest in Doctor Who doing well and a responsibilty to the stakeholders in Bad Wolf to maximise profit margins. What would have been a favour 15-20 years back is now a financial decision. I wouldn't expect anyone to put their support for a friendly company over that. Worth bearing in mind though this is for the soft-reboot we are about to see. BF are licenced up for 7 more years after this one. At that stage...well, a lot of the casts will be quite an age and who knows what the state of affairs will be anyway. Even Jason and Nick will be in their mid 60s. Off-Topic of the Thread but I don't any of the new TV Money going in the Audio direction. Long term for BF Term though they'll have to get as many 1963-2017/22 OG Actors as regular and for as Long as Possible, at the point the Range Output gets over 50% made up of all re-casts combined with the price increases its over and done. Regards mark687
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Post by mark687 on Nov 16, 2022 10:42:53 GMT
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