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Post by The Matt on May 10, 2023 14:45:25 GMT
I don't post very often but I come on here daily and i can't help but notice the amount of negative comments outweighing the positive and people saying they are dropping ranges because there is nothing new in them anymore.
Do people think their love affair with BF is coming to an end?
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Post by masterdoctor on May 10, 2023 14:58:01 GMT
I mean Big Finish have been going for 24 years at this point, and much like Who on TV, there’s no way people are going to love every era/story. To be honest, we have a pretty insular community here, which isn’t a bad thing, but we very rarely have new posters that frequently post and add new perspectives. And finally, we have a few regular posters who decry any slight whiff of representation or something that doesn’t fit within their narrow ideas of how people should exist, so that will skew the overall negativity of the forum.
As for me, I don’t view myself as being any less or more in love with Big Finish, I just don’t buy many new releases since the price hike.
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Post by Stevo on May 10, 2023 17:50:41 GMT
Do people think their love affair with BF is coming to an end? No way!
Money has been in short supply for me since the covid lockdowns and I only do a three day week now we're back, plus inflation has gone mad here (Ireland) since Brexit/Ukraine-Russia, so luxuries have had to be scaled back. Which invariably means my Big Finish purchases have suffered as I can get better VFM with a Blu-ray set if I am going to treat myself. I assume others are in a similar boat.
Story wise, with the quantity that Big Finish produce these days there will always be hits and misses and with the default position being people will be fans of the Big Finish audios to be here in the first place, people expressing disappointment is only natural as we all have high hopes every time we sit down to listen to a Big Finish story. Nobody wants to not like a story, or they wouldn't buy it!!!
So I might have cheated on Big Finish a few times, but I'm still in love with them!
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Post by timleschild on May 10, 2023 19:12:54 GMT
Yes. It was initially partly financial but as I was forced to buy less I realised I didn't feel like I was missing much. Now I pick up the odd release now & again. If Matt Smith or Jodie Whittaker come to BF I think I might be interested again. The only thing I really look forward to now is 9th Doctor stuff.
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Post by mark687 on May 11, 2023 19:57:00 GMT
I don't post very often but I come on here daily and i can't help but notice the amount of negative comments outweighing the positive and people saying they are dropping ranges because there is nothing new in them anymore. Do people think their love affair with BF is coming to an end? Actually seems to be just 1 very loud voice The dilemma is simple, do people want to spend their money listening to things they enjoy, if they don't enjoy anymore don't buy anymore. Regards mark687
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Post by Kestrel on May 11, 2023 20:22:26 GMT
I know that at least for some of us, Big Finish' recent price hikes (three or four in the past year or two) have forced us to reconsider what we buy, when we buy it, and how often. We're kinda forced to be more critical of what we consume because we're spending more money and getting less from it.
It's also worth noting that Big Finish' transition to the 3-story format leaves each release much more vulnerable to a bad story than the old 4-story format. Basically, it's a lot easier to overlook 1/4 of a release that ya' don't like than 1/3. Or, as the case may be, 1/2 versus 2/3s. Or, I mean, hell, even if all the stories are mediocre, middling fare (as has been the problem with many of the new XDA sets) 4/4 at least gives the illusion that you're getting quantity, if not quality. (EDIT: and also we're stuck waiting longer for XDA boxsets compared to the regular monthly releases of the MR, and the more time we spent waiting the greater our expectations will be -- that's just human nature.
But "the magic?" Nah. That's not a thing that exists. I'm in no space to relitigate it today (certainly I've gone I to it in some other recent threads here that shouldn't be too hard to find) but this notion that Big Finish' output, as a whole, is somehow inferior to what it used to be in some glorified, imagined past is nonsense.
Or as I think I put it last time I weighed in, an illusion.
If anything's changed in the past year or two it's that the fandom in general is far more optimistic and enthusiastic about the future of the TV show. When I got into this thing, it was 2020, the early days of the pandemic, and right in the immediate wake of The Timeless Child. Every day fans were spending inordinate amounts of time complaining about Chibnall and pontificating -- at great length -- about the many and myriad ways his tenure had ruined the IP. Churning out screed after screed after screed, largely reiterating the same handful of sentiments again and again ad nauseam.
And that sent many of us, myself included, well... here. If we weren't liking what the TV show was doing, we could always find new Doctor Who stories to fall in love with elsewhere. And we did. (EDIT: well, some of us. Some of us got stuck in a loop and spent years raving about TTC instead.)
And god knows a whole heckuva lotta us had plenty of time to invest in findin' those new stories back then.
There was a kind of magic to that time, I think, and it's gone. Can't really say it's a bad thing, though.
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Post by shutupbanks on May 12, 2023 8:49:21 GMT
You’ve caused me to realise that I haven’t bought very much Big Finish over the last couple of years. It hasn’t been because of any price hikes or anything - I just haven’t had the time to listen to very much over the last few years… pretty much since my wife came to work on the same school site as me (we commute together) and even less since I had Covid and lost huge chunks of my energy to take the dogs out on daily walks of any kind of length more than a couple times a week. The magic hasn’t gone, it’s just on the backburner.
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Post by The Brigadier on May 12, 2023 22:36:19 GMT
Has my love affair with Big Finish come to an end?
No. Not really.
But like any long term relationship it has changed.
Nine years and a cost of living crisis will do that.
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Post by agentten on May 13, 2023 1:33:04 GMT
The price hike has certainly made a poor release feel much more frustrating because one is spending more money to hear it. I confess to have been more frustrated than I might normally have been with the first releases of the 6th Doctor range because I paid more for them. They still weren't to my taste and I would have felt that either way, but the cost made it sting more. I would imagine that I'm not the only one who feels that and that's sure to be reflected here on the forums.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 13, 2023 1:51:55 GMT
I’m certainly taking a break, only really interesting in Eccelston and Tombo now. Not touched Stranded, any box set, no desire for Doom’s Day, can’t even muster the interest to finish the War Master’s Land of Fiction adventures.
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Post by bonehead on May 13, 2023 9:31:14 GMT
The recent buzz I got hearing about a new 'Omega Factor' audio, the ongoing delights of Torchwood, an almost child-like anticipation of any news of Dark Shadows, the continuation of classic Doctor stories (even when original actors are not available), the knowledge that Tom Baker, Chris Eccleston and Janet Fielding are now on board after resisting for so long (giving hope that one day Peter Capaldi might join the ranks), the promise of some Sacha Master stories and further excursions into the worlds of Sherlock Holmes and The War Doctor ... all of these things remind me that no, the magic is far from being all over.
As for the price hike - in a world where the cost of everything is going through the roof, I still think BF is worth every penny.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 13, 2023 10:19:50 GMT
The recent buzz I got hearing about a new 'Omega Factor' audio, the ongoing delights of Torchwood, an almost child-like anticipation of any news of Dark Shadows, the continuation of classic Doctor stories (even when original actors are not available), the knowledge that Tom Baker, Chris Eccleston and Janet Fielding are now on board after resisting for so long (giving hope that one day Peter Capaldi might join the ranks), the promise of some Sacha Master stories and further excursions into the worlds of Sherlock Holmes and The War Doctor ... all of these things remind me that no, the magic is far from being all over. As for the price hike - in a world where the cost of everything is going through the roof, I still think BF is worth every penny. The 1st paragraph.. yes.. counting your blessings so to speak..
I tell you.. when we get some actual meaty/proper/legit "Dark Shadows" news... celebration time.!
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Post by bonehead on May 13, 2023 10:30:12 GMT
The recent buzz I got hearing about a new 'Omega Factor' audio, the ongoing delights of Torchwood, an almost child-like anticipation of any news of Dark Shadows, the continuation of classic Doctor stories (even when original actors are not available), the knowledge that Tom Baker, Chris Eccleston and Janet Fielding are now on board after resisting for so long (giving hope that one day Peter Capaldi might join the ranks), the promise of some Sacha Master stories and further excursions into the worlds of Sherlock Holmes and The War Doctor ... all of these things remind me that no, the magic is far from being all over. As for the price hike - in a world where the cost of everything is going through the roof, I still think BF is worth every penny. The 1st paragraph.. yes.. counting your blessings so to speak..
I tell you.. when we get some actual meaty/proper/legit "Dark Shadows" news... celebration time.!
I might even pour myself something red and ... dark! I'm not sure what's going on with DS. Some talk of bringing it back as a TV series, rumours of rights being currently up in the air and negotiations going on behind the scenes - but surely that doesn't mean Big Finish can't say something about their future (or not) with Dark Shadows.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 13, 2023 10:47:19 GMT
The 1st paragraph.. yes.. counting your blessings so to speak..
I tell you.. when we get some actual meaty/proper/legit "Dark Shadows" news... celebration time.!
I might even pour myself something red and ... dark! I'm not sure what's going on with DS. Some talk of bringing it back as a TV series, rumours of rights being currently up in the air and negotiations going on behind the scenes - but surely that doesn't mean Big Finish can't say something about their future (or not) with Dark Shadows. Amen. I think the last release was 2019 (?).
Just a proper/full disclosure statement/paragraph of where things currently stand. Invest in your audience and they will inve$t back..
Secret squirrel whispers does no one any good..
That's wherein the magic dips, IMHO.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 14, 2023 9:44:17 GMT
OGHH! I totall6 forgot the Fugitive Doctor! That’s something to look forward to.
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Post by timleschild on May 14, 2023 11:28:53 GMT
OGHH! I totall6 forgot the Fugitive Doctor! That’s something to look forward to. Same! Well that is something to look forward to, hopefully BF won't mess it up & its more like the 9th Doctor rather than River Song range with loads of crossovers & every character meeting each other.
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Post by davygallagher on May 14, 2023 11:40:19 GMT
OGHH! I totall6 forgot the Fugitive Doctor! That’s something to look forward to. Same! Well that is something to look forward to, hopefully BF won't mess it up & its more like the 9th Doctor rather than River Song range with loads of crossovers & every character meeting each other. I just hope they find a way to make Jo's Doctor distinct. Fans may not approve but the first person I'd ask? Chibnall. What was his ideal goal for the Divison stuff? Clearly he was stopped in his tracks as he set a LOT up and now...zip. That fobwatch is just buried in the TARDIS. Doesn't matter who thinks it was a good or bad idea as an arc, the story itself was clearly that The Doctor had not just hidden lives but lives where they would do things that were very non-Doctor like. With zero issue about guns and murder. From the clues in Fugitive Of The Judooon, Jo's Doctor may have been more extreme than The War Doctor. SO it needs to not just be another Doc in time and space. It needs to be different from the War Doctor. And it needs to be acceptable to the BBC who won't let them go too far (and that oversight is surely gonna be harder again now the show is clearly back at the adult table). It needs to be different from other renegade type stories with Missy, The Monk, The Nine-The Eleven..... Oh, and it needs to be good audio drama! That's...plenty to be getting on with!
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Post by BHTvsTFC on May 15, 2023 15:12:14 GMT
It's always a fluctuating kind of thing depending on my mind. But to reflect other opinions I am really looking forward to Dark Season and the return of The Omega Factor has me buzzing. The most recent River Song release is one of the best (the best even) things Big Finish have ever released. The Bambera sets have been a lot more fun than I was expecting - it took seeing Angela Bruce at a convention to get me to listen though. The last Tom set was also a lot better than I expected, the Iris audiobooks have been amazing, and the last Survivors set has been awesome. And the Audio Novels...
I guess I am just a fan of audio drama in itself. If I see a problem with things it's that the forum can be drowned in promotional posts rather than discussion. Maybe there is a general apathy. But not from me.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 15, 2023 20:16:07 GMT
It's always a fluctuating kind of thing depending on my mind. But to reflect other opinions I am really looking forward to Dark Season and the return of The Omega Factor has me buzzing. The most recent River Song release is one of the best (the best even) things Big Finish have ever released. The Bambera sets have been a lot more fun than I was expecting - it took seeing Angela Bruce at a convention to get me to listen though. The last Tom set was also a lot better than I expected, the Iris audiobooks have been amazing, and the last Survivors set has been awesome. And the Audio Novels... I guess I am just a fan of audio drama in itself. If I see a problem with things it's that the forum can be drowned in promotional posts rather than discussion. Maybe there is a general apathy. But not from me. We always promote constructive conversation here - there are a Lot of lurkers here - people who log in but don't contribute which is a shame.
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Post by timleschild on May 16, 2023 12:40:47 GMT
If I see a problem with things it's that the forum can be drowned in promotional posts rather than discussion. Agree 100%.
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