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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 10:24:43 GMT
Call me controversial but for me it just feels too soon. He only left 2 years ago. I just don't feel enough time has passed for me to miss him. Don't get me wrong It's good that he is willing to do it but I would have liked a bit more time inbetween leaving and joining big finish. Also big finish are so busy that they are only doing 1 big finish convention this year instead of 2. Would they have the time? I think even Tennant joining feels a bit soon, it doesn't have the nostalgia feel of classic Doctor's does it. Maybe nostalgia kicks in after ten years, hence everyone saying they'd like more ninth doctor. And the busyness is a real concern. You can't just magic more producers, directors and writers out of thin air. We're quick to jump on them with criticism when we think the quality is dropping and poor Dorney and Fitton can only produce so many scripts per day. I think we're forgetting one sad factor: sadly, the original Doctors aren't getting any younger. It makes sense for Big Finish to try and source the revival Doctors as soon as possible if there going to continue with Doctor Who. Yes, it might seem a little too soon - but then did we ever think that Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann would reprise their roles on a regular basis, either so long ago? The Doctors have truly come back from the void now. New stories set in Doctor Who's past is a very different territory nowadays and if we're going to see it continue as it has been, it means that the return of The Doctors from the void is going to seem a little less mythical and impossible and that's a trade off I'm more then willing to accept for new content featuring Doctors 9-11.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 8, 2016 11:12:36 GMT
Well that was a surprisingly positive response. Perhaps we are looking at 11DAs sooner rather then later.
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Post by kimalysong on Feb 8, 2016 11:14:37 GMT
Not to soon for me....bring on Matt Smith!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 11:22:23 GMT
I think even Tennant joining feels a bit soon, it doesn't have the nostalgia feel of classic Doctor's does it. Maybe nostalgia kicks in after ten years, hence everyone saying they'd like more ninth doctor. And the busyness is a real concern. You can't just magic more producers, directors and writers out of thin air. We're quick to jump on them with criticism when we think the quality is dropping and poor Dorney and Fitton can only produce so many scripts per day. I think we're forgetting one sad factor: sadly, the original Doctors aren't getting any younger. It makes sense for Big Finish to try and source the revival Doctors as soon as possible if there going to continue with Doctor Who. Yes, it might seem a little too soon - but then did we ever think that Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann would reprise their roles on a regular basis, either so long ago? The Doctors have truly come back from the void now. New stories set in Doctor Who's past is a very different territory nowadays and if we're going to see it continue as it has been, it means that the return of The Doctors from the void is going to seem a little less mythical and impossible and that's a trade off I'm more then willing to accept for new content featuring Doctors 9-11. See I think they need to stick with the classics while they're still available. Time for the new doctor's when there's no alternative other than recasting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 11:40:27 GMT
I think we're forgetting one sad factor: sadly, the original Doctors aren't getting any younger. It makes sense for Big Finish to try and source the revival Doctors as soon as possible if there going to continue with Doctor Who. Yes, it might seem a little too soon - but then did we ever think that Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann would reprise their roles on a regular basis, either so long ago? The Doctors have truly come back from the void now. New stories set in Doctor Who's past is a very different territory nowadays and if we're going to see it continue as it has been, it means that the return of The Doctors from the void is going to seem a little less mythical and impossible and that's a trade off I'm more then willing to accept for new content featuring Doctors 9-11. See I think they need to stick with the classics while they're still available. Time for the new doctor's when there's no alternative other than recasting. Doctor Who is the linchpin of Big Finish, though. With no disrespect intended to the original Doctors and in fear of being incredibly tasteless: contigiencies have to be made. There' is sadly a reason why Colin decided to do his last adventure, after all. One day, the Who bubble might pop. Better for Big Finish to secure an audience - particularly with the company's medium - before it does. Let's be honest: not many companies have an origin story like Big Finish and I'm not sure if we'll ever see the like again. I think we just have to accept that Doctors don't fully step behind the curtain thesedays. The trade off is the end of Big Finish and I'm sure none of us wants that.
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Post by kimalysong on Feb 8, 2016 11:43:22 GMT
I want the Classic Doctors to continue and I want both Tennant and Smith. Call me greedy. But I don't see how having one has to exclude the other.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 11:45:58 GMT
See I think they need to stick with the classics while they're still available. Time for the new doctor's when there's no alternative other than recasting. Doctor Who is the linchpin of Big Finish, though. With no disrespect intended to the original Doctors and in fear of being incredibly tasteless: contigiencies have to be made. There' is sadly a reason why Colin decided to do his last adventure, after all. One day, the Who bubble might pop. Better for Big Finish to secure an audience - particularly with the company's medium - before it does. Let's be honest: not many companies have an origin story like Big Finish and I'm not sure if we'll ever see the like again. I think we just have to accept that Doctors don't fully step behind the curtain thesedays. The trade off is the end of Big Finish and I'm sure none of us wants that. Just letting everyone know I edited my post a little bit for further clarification.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 11:47:35 GMT
See I think they need to stick with the classics while they're still available. Time for the new doctor's when there's no alternative other than recasting. Doctor Who is the linchpin of Big Finish, though. With no disrespect intended to the original Doctors and in fear of being incredibly tasteless: contigiencies have to be made. There' is sadly a reason why Colin decided to do his last adventure, after all. I think we just have to accept that Doctors don't fully step behind the curtain thesedays. The trade off is the end of Big Finish and I'm sure none of us wants that. At the same time, I don't think we need dwell on morbidity. None of the Doctors seem to be in anything but rude health. I also don't recall Colin saying, or even implying, he did The Last Adventure because of the reasons you're saying. He seemed to want to give something back to BF after reviving his Doctor, and trusted Nick, David and co to do the story justice.
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Post by acousticwolf on Feb 8, 2016 11:53:35 GMT
I want the Classic Doctors to continue and I want both Tennant and Smith. Call me greedy. But I don't see how having one has to exclude the other. Agreed - there is no reason why we can't have both. Cheers Tony
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 11:55:29 GMT
I want the Classic Doctors to continue and I want both Tennant and Smith. Call me greedy. But I don't see how having one has to exclude the other. Of course it doesn't - but why announce all your biggest surprises in the first few months of a new licence? You've not got anywhere to go if you start at the top but down. Even if Smith has been contacted and informally agreed, I can see the sense in holding off for a good long while. You can't have too many massive news stories or the fantastic will be taken for granted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 11:58:25 GMT
I want the Classic Doctors to continue and I want both Tennant and Smith. Call me greedy. But I don't see how having one has to exclude the other. Agreed - there is no reason why we can't have both. Cheers Tony Or have them meet each other
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 12:02:57 GMT
I want the Classic Doctors to continue and I want both Tennant and Smith. Call me greedy. But I don't see how having one has to exclude the other. Oh absolutely, but lets ease the new guys in gradually. A box set a year is enough for a new series doctor to be getting on with. Keeps the door open to ramp up the volume later if one of the older doctors starts to feel like cutting back a bit.
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Post by CookieMaster on Feb 8, 2016 12:05:08 GMT
Well the way i see it, Tennant, Smith and Hurt are pretty much like Davison, C.Baker and McCoy, all pretty much up for it it's just a case of asking Capaldi, like McGann will probably take a few more years before they can get their hands on him, but it will happen. Eccleston, like Tom, will be the miracle of miracles and may take anywhere between 10 and 916 years for him to agree. I'm sure that once Tennant's audios are released, wheels will be set in motion for Smith.
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Post by jasonward on Feb 8, 2016 12:07:51 GMT
I struggle to believe that Smith's day rates would be greater than Tennant's. I have no idea whose rate might be higher or lower, but what I do know is that as Tennant worked with BF before, and clearly has been fully expecting, perhaps even wanting to work for BF again, he may have not wanted to charge as much for his time as he might otherwise.
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Post by aztec on Feb 8, 2016 12:13:13 GMT
Hmmm...not sure how I feel about this:
-The Good points:
-Matt is a great actor with a very expressive voice, he's hugely enthusiastic about the franchise and would be a great ambassador for Big Finish -It would help raise B.F's profile even further, particularly in North America where Smith's Dr was a breakout hit -There's absolutely tonnes of gaps in 11's timeline for Big Finish to fill -Gives us yet another Doctor to get excited about -Speaking as someone who wasn't overly fond of Series 6 or 7 (well, at least what the episodes I actually watched) but was always impressed by Smith's performance I'm keen on the idea of hearing how he would work in the hands of new writers. -I think it's clear it's a case of when not if for Matt coming to Big Finish -It might guilt trip Eccleston into signing up if he's the odd one out.
The Bad Points:
-I was never a huge fan of Smith's Doctor, but even so I don't think he's been gone long enough for anyone to get really nostalgic about, at the very least I think he should sign up when Peter steps down and/or equals him with 3 series -Frankly I think for many fans/listeners trying to get into B.F or play catch up things are arguably already at saturation point, Smith, River Song, Tennant, Hurt and Torchwood are all going to bring in lots of new customers and for many of them it's going to be a case of picking and choosing what to buy, B.F is a small company with an arguably somewhat archaic pricing structure and a relatively small pool of regular writers, would they be able to cope with so many new ranges launching so close to each other?
-It could step on the toes of the Classic Doctors or Capaldi, Smith is still massively popular and it feels like Peter's still got alot more to give to the show -Although it's great to know Smith seems enthusiastic about the idea, welcoming every New Who Doctor back so quickly kinda makes it feel like less of an event -Tennant's audios haven't even been released yet it feels a little too early to be thinking about the next guy i.m.o
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 12:13:19 GMT
There are - when it does happen someday - HUGE gaps for Smith's Doctor as well. I mean, Trenzalore alo,e is a thousand years of invasion. There's hundreds of years before he meets Amy, Rory and River at Lake Silencio. And, while we'd no dout get TV companions, I'd kill to get Alice on audio.
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Post by aztec on Feb 8, 2016 12:17:34 GMT
There are - when it does happen someday - HUGE gaps for Smith's Doctor as well. I mean, Trenzalore aloe is a thousand years of invasion. There's hundreds f years before he meets Amy, Rory and River at Lake Silencio. And, while we'd no dout get TV companions, I'd kill to get Alice on audio. Isn't his farewell tour 200 years long? You could easily fit 20 new companions in there alone (Moffat stated in an interview at the very least he saw room for at least 7) The good thing about the audios is they don't have to be quite as commercial with the companions, I'd like to hear Smith's 'Old Man in a young man's body' approach explored further, you could partner him with a teenager, alien or elderly male companion and make it work.
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Post by jasonward on Feb 8, 2016 12:20:21 GMT
Why do some people need to feel nostalgic before listening to Doctor Who on audio? I don't listen to any audio's from nostalgia but because I find them first class entertainment.
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Post by aztec on Feb 8, 2016 12:24:08 GMT
Why do some people need to feel nostalgic before listening to Doctor Who on audio? I don't listen to any audio's from nostalgia but because I find them first class entertainment. For me personally it still feels like Matt left very recently, all the other Doctors (bar Hurt) had a gap of some years before they returned to the role, Smith's Doctor is still pretty fresh in my mind so I wouldn't quite as excited about revisiting his era at this point in time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 12:27:34 GMT
Why do some people need to feel nostalgic before listening to Doctor Who on audio? I don't listen to any audio's from nostalgia but because I find them first class entertainment. I don't NEED to, but it's an added extra the older doctors have. It's not enough on it's own, and the 4da's suffer accordingly, but it adds certain something.
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