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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 21:48:29 GMT
Incidentally, in this week's podcast Nick specifically mentioned Alien Entertainment as a partner/friend of Big Finish. If only they'd open a branch in Ireland!
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Post by frobisherthepenguin1 on Sept 21, 2016 19:06:50 GMT
I wouldn't call Alien Entertainment a great deal in comparison either. Their subscription service is $24.95 per CD with free shipping, so that's $299.40 for 12 releases. As bad as the sticker shock of BF's new shipping policy is, it's only $246.49 for 12 releases including $77.84 in shipping.
The last 12 month sub I got from BF was pre-Brexit and pre-MegaSub, and was $220.65 including shipping. So I guess an increase of $26 aint the end of the world.
I may be softening.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 21, 2016 19:21:11 GMT
I wouldn't call Alien Entertainment a great deal in comparison either. Their subscription service is $24.95 per CD with free shipping, so that's $299.40 for 12 releases. As bad as the sticker shock of BF's new shipping policy is, it's only $246.49 for 12 releases including $77.84 in shipping. The last 12 month sub I got from BF was pre-Brexit and pre-MegaSub, and was $220.65 including shipping. So I guess an increase of $26 aint the end of the world. I may be softening. Thanks for that breakdown. I'm a Uk customer so it doesn't affect me but I've been monitoring the situation.
I'm quite shocked that the saving though Alien Entrainment in terms of Subs is so relatively small, but a saving is a saving I suppose.
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Post by frobisherthepenguin1 on Sept 21, 2016 20:34:48 GMT
I wouldn't call Alien Entertainment a great deal in comparison either. Their subscription service is $24.95 per CD with free shipping, so that's $299.40 for 12 releases. As bad as the sticker shock of BF's new shipping policy is, it's only $246.49 for 12 releases including $77.84 in shipping. The last 12 month sub I got from BF was pre-Brexit and pre-MegaSub, and was $220.65 including shipping. So I guess an increase of $26 aint the end of the world. I may be softening. Thanks for that breakdown. I'm a Uk customer so it doesn't affect me but I've been monitoring the situation.
I'm quite shocked that the saving though Alien Entrainment in terms of Subs is so relatively small, but a saving is a saving I suppose.
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mark687
It's not a saving though - it's more. The Alien Entertainment Sub with free shipping is $299.40 which is $52.91 MORE than a 12 CD sub through Big Finish (which is inclusive of $77.84 shipping). The current Big Finish sub at $246.49 is $25.84 more than the last time I ordered a 12 CD sub from Big Finish starting at #200.
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Post by Ela on Sept 21, 2016 20:36:47 GMT
Yeah, so scratch the Alien Entertainment option as a way to save money on shipping.
I'm sure Nick meant well with the suggestion, though he may not have looked into actual price comparisons.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 21, 2016 20:46:07 GMT
Thanks for that breakdown. I'm a Uk customer so it doesn't affect me but I've been monitoring the situation.
I'm quite shocked that the saving though Alien Entrainment in terms of Subs is so relatively small, but a saving is a saving I suppose.
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mark687
It's not a saving though - it's more. The Alien Entertainment Sub with free shipping is $299.40 which is $52.91 MORE than a 12 CD sub through Big Finish (which is inclusive of $77.84 shipping). The current Big Finish sub at $246.49 is $25.84 more than the last time I ordered a 12 CD sub from Big Finish starting at #200. Oh sorry I understand. definitely not a preferred option then.
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mark687
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 22, 2016 0:34:19 GMT
Thanks for that breakdown. I'm a Uk customer so it doesn't affect me but I've been monitoring the situation.
I'm quite shocked that the saving though Alien Entrainment in terms of Subs is so relatively small, but a saving is a saving I suppose.
Regards
mark687
It's not a saving though - it's more. The Alien Entertainment Sub with free shipping is $299.40 which is $52.91 MORE than a 12 CD sub through Big Finish (which is inclusive of $77.84 shipping). The current Big Finish sub at $246.49 is $25.84 more than the last time I ordered a 12 CD sub from Big Finish starting at #200. And we would pay more and not receive the download. I think I'm looking at doing 6 month retro subs for the Main Range. Still deciding on what to do with the Fourth Doctor series.
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Post by redsharkJason on Sept 22, 2016 18:43:25 GMT
Still deciding on what to do with the Fourth Doctor series. I still haven't decided on the exact method of how, when and where, I'm going to buy the Fourth Doctor: Series 6 CD set with downloads yet either. Traditionally, I like to purchase my Fourth Doctor subscriptions in September, but it now looks like I'll be holding out for a January date. I keep hoping for even the tiniest of a special deal to materialize on minimizing the blow of its £5.00 per CD shipping. Example: a 24 hour pre-order sale like Big Finish did with Dan Dare, or a price reducing bundling of the Sixth and Seventh series of the Fourth Doctor would be a clincher. Occasionally offered 24 hour sale £5.00-£10.00 "postage relief" discount codes on international pre-order CD subscriptions would be heavenly as well. If this ever does occur, I'm counting on mark687 to help give us all the fastest notification possible, especially if that type of code is released on social media, where I most probably wouldn't see it.
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Post by muckypup on Sept 22, 2016 19:29:14 GMT
Still deciding on what to do with the Fourth Doctor series. I still haven't decided on the exact method of how, when and where, I'm going to buy the Fourth Doctor: Series 6 CD set with downloads yet either. Traditionally, I like to purchase my Fourth Doctor subscriptions in September, but it now looks like I'll be holding out for a January date. I keep hoping for even the tiniest of a special deal to materialize on minimizing the blow of its £5.00 per CD shipping. Example: a 24 hour pre-order sale like Big Finish did with Dan Dare, or a price reducing bundling of the Sixth and Seventh series of the Fourth Doctor would be a clincher. Occasionally offered 24 hour sale £5.00-£10.00 "postage relief" discount codes on international pre-order CD subscriptions would be heavenly as well. If this ever does occur, I'm counting on mark687 to help give us all the fastest notification possible, especially if that type of code is released on social media, where I most probably wouldn't see it. I'm sorry but cannot see this happening, they have explained that the postage charge is only covering the postage costs.....why would they change policy, upset everyone then offer a discount eating the little bit of profit they might make for the first time in a long time on overseas cd orders!
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 22, 2016 20:18:14 GMT
I still haven't decided on the exact method of how, when and where, I'm going to buy the Fourth Doctor: Series 6 CD set with downloads yet either. Traditionally, I like to purchase my Fourth Doctor subscriptions in September, but it now looks like I'll be holding out for a January date. I keep hoping for even the tiniest of a special deal to materialize on minimizing the blow of its £5.00 per CD shipping. Example: a 24 hour pre-order sale like Big Finish did with Dan Dare, or a price reducing bundling of the Sixth and Seventh series of the Fourth Doctor would be a clincher. Occasionally offered 24 hour sale £5.00-£10.00 "postage relief" discount codes on international pre-order CD subscriptions would be heavenly as well. If this ever does occur, I'm counting on mark687 to help give us all the fastest notification possible, especially if that type of code is released on social media, where I most probably wouldn't see it. I'm sorry but cannot see this happening, they have explained that the postage charge is only covering the postage costs.....why would they change policy, upset everyone then offer a discount eating the little bit of profit they might make for the first time in a long time on overseas cd orders! Sadly, I think this is probably correct. Can you imagine the shitstorm it would raise to jack up shipping the way they did and then a few months later offer up a discount on it? The only hope I hold out is that when the new BF web site comes on line it will be designed to be more flexible and offer something like subscribe & hold options. As for 4th Doctor, it is looks more & more like I'm going to subscribe to the DL and purchase the physical discs from Book Depository. I realized the other day this range is the only one where I always listen to the download first, and then listen to the entire season on disc when it has completed. So this would be the one series where holding off several months would really bug me. The Main Range I almost always listen to in 3s. Anyway, moving on.
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Post by redsharkJason on Sept 22, 2016 20:56:22 GMT
I still haven't decided on the exact method of how, when and where, I'm going to buy the Fourth Doctor: Series 6 CD set with downloads yet either. Traditionally, I like to purchase my Fourth Doctor subscriptions in September, but it now looks like I'll be holding out for a January date. I keep hoping for even the tiniest of a special deal to materialize on minimizing the blow of its £5.00 per CD shipping. Example: a 24 hour pre-order sale like Big Finish did with Dan Dare, or a price reducing bundling of the Sixth and Seventh series of the Fourth Doctor would be a clincher. Occasionally offered 24 hour sale £5.00-£10.00 "postage relief" discount codes on international pre-order CD subscriptions would be heavenly as well. If this ever does occur, I'm counting on mark687 to help give us all the fastest notification possible, especially if that type of code is released on social media, where I most probably wouldn't see it. I'm sorry but cannot see this happening, they have explained that the postage charge is only covering the postage costs.....why would they change policy, upset everyone then offer a discount eating the little bit of profit they might make for the first time in a long time on overseas cd orders! My hopes are not demands. And, you're assuming that everything Big Finish says is gospel. Are you thinking that there is no markup on Big Finish products? Why can many other UK companies offer better international shipping rates? Any *large* or pre-order UK shipping order is subsidized. Wouldn't that cost Big Finish money as well? Moreover, I find your insinuation that Big Finish hasn't made a profit from me buying every CD release with sometimes duplicates greatly offensive. No matter what Nick may imply on his podcasts.
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Post by muckypup on Sept 22, 2016 23:10:13 GMT
I'm sorry but cannot see this happening, they have explained that the postage charge is only covering the postage costs.....why would they change policy, upset everyone then offer a discount eating the little bit of profit they might make for the first time in a long time on overseas cd orders! My hopes are not demands. And, you're assuming that everything Big Finish says is gospel. Are you thinking that there is no markup on Big Finish products? Why can many other UK companies offer better international shipping rates? Any *large* or pre-order UK shipping order is subsidized. Wouldn't that cost Big Finish money as well? Moreover, I find your insinuation that Big Finish hasn't made a profit from me buying every CD release with sometimes duplicates greatly offensive. No matter what Nick may imply on his podcasts. Please don't take offence, were are all talking from a place of ignorance as far as BF profits are concerned. You may be right & I am talking a pile of ? Like usual! of course there is a profit on the items, they are a business, I have no idea how other companies can send stuff cheaper all I know that the average cost for me to send something to no EU countries is about £10+ for a 250 gram parcel. It's so expensive my 6 monthly parcel to Australia has gone from costing £4 (2006) to costing £12. but I have nothing but sympathy for you guys, many things BF have done have pissed me off, but by some kind of Jedi mind trick they keep me coming back.
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Post by redsharkJason on Sept 23, 2016 1:12:36 GMT
I'm sorry but cannot see this happening, they have explained that the postage charge is only covering the postage costs.....why would they change policy, upset everyone then offer a discount eating the little bit of profit they might make for the first time in a long time on overseas cd orders! Sadly, I think this is probably correct. Can you imagine the shitstorm it would raise to jack up shipping the way they did and then a few months later offer up a discount on it? The only hope I hold out is that when the new BF web site comes on line it will be designed to be more flexible and offer something like subscribe & hold options. As for 4th Doctor, it is looks more & more like I'm going to subscribe to the DL and purchase the physical discs from Book Depository. I realized the other day this range is the only one where I always listen to the download first, and then listen to the entire season on disc when it has completed. So this would be the one series where holding off several months would really bug me. The Main Range I almost always listen to in 3s. Anyway, moving on. Implementing any changes after a policy or product line price has been rolled out generally would be bad business, and I'm not disputing that! But, Big Finish's sales and policies always seem to be changing or evolving... The 24 hour Dan Dare pre-order type of sale (although uniquely innovative) probably wouldn't work for subscriptions - I was wrong to previously group that in. A price saving subscription bundling of the Fourth Doctor: Series 6 + 7 + more could be achieved and would benefit *everyone* interested, if it ever became available. Anyone that previously bought the 6th FDA series could easily upgrade with the assistance of the helpful Big Finish sales staff. Therefore, I don't think that I was completely off base about that suggestion. And, with many of the weekend Big Finish sales the UK resident shipping is free for large order bundling. So, when I suggested the occasional 24 hour nominal international "shipping relief" discount code, it didn't occur to me that I could possibly be coming across as disrespectful to the other Big Finish geographical market buyers. I am now reminded that there seems to be an ongoing "sensitivity" history about discounting subscriptions. I was just trying to come up with some international shipping break solution incentives that everyone could live with. If, I unnecessarily caused offense to the other Big Finish market purchasers, then I apologize.
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Post by redsharkJason on Sept 23, 2016 1:18:25 GMT
My hopes are not demands. And, you're assuming that everything Big Finish says is gospel. Are you thinking that there is no markup on Big Finish products? Why can many other UK companies offer better international shipping rates? Any *large* or pre-order UK shipping order is subsidized. Wouldn't that cost Big Finish money as well? Moreover, I find your insinuation that Big Finish hasn't made a profit from me buying every CD release with sometimes duplicates greatly offensive. No matter what Nick may imply on his podcasts. Please don't take offence, were are all talking from a place of ignorance as far as BF profits are concerned. You may be right & I am talking a pile of ? Like usual! of course there is a profit on the items, they are a business, I have no idea how other companies can send stuff cheaper all I know that the average cost for me to send something to no EU countries is about £10+ for a 250 gram parcel. It's so expensive my 6 monthly parcel to Australia has gone from costing £4 (2006) to costing £12. but I have nothing but sympathy for you guys, many things BF have done have pissed me off, but by some kind of Jedi mind trick they keep me coming back. Thank you muckypup for your calming sentiments, I might occasionally talk a tough game, but at the end of the day - I'm delicate! You're most often the wiser owl, and 90% of the time (that's a good batting average) we're on the same page! In my neck of the woods, "moaning" (which I'm doing) is called *whining*! However, I do prefer the term "moaning" it sounds less accusatory...and rather sexual...
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Post by redsharkJason on Sept 23, 2016 4:56:25 GMT
It's no secret that I don't normally enjoy the services of the DHL courier company when completely delivered by them. However, if mostly every delivery is only going to be partially delivered by DHL and then passed on to Canada Post - then I'm a happy camper! A 12 CD "per order charge" era delivery efficiently arrived yesterday to my doorstep from Canada Post with the usual German postage sticker without any indication of DHL involvement. Its contents were safely insulated by extra packaging materials, caringly applied by the Big Finish sales staff. Instead of having the customary £7.00 default postage declaration on every CD, this time, was accurately disclosed to my advantage. Just in case, extra Canada duties are applied at my border on top of the VAT that I already paid. Note: North American customers do not pay VAT on Big Finish Amazon.co.uk orders (it is removed during the payment checkout). For example: the £32.00 Amazon.co.uk Doom Coalition 2 box set costs £26.67 + £6.98 postage & packing for a Canadian buyer. Thank you - Big Finish management for almost always taking care of me as a customer...you're not all bad! And, nor am I!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 16:32:51 GMT
A 12 CD "per order charge" era delivery efficiently arrived yesterday to my doorstep from Canada Post with the usual German postage sticker without any indication of DHL involvement. Deutsche Post is owned by DHL. The German mail service was privatised in the 90's. Paul Spragg once told me that Big Finish international packages went by DHL to Germany to be sorted, which I actually thought was quite strange for my mail. As sending a CD from the UK to Ireland via Germany wouldn't seem to be an obvious route, but DHL owning Deutsche Post kind of explained it. (!)
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Post by redsharkJason on Sept 23, 2016 19:42:35 GMT
A 12 CD "per order charge" era delivery efficiently arrived yesterday to my doorstep from Canada Post with the usual German postage sticker without any indication of DHL involvement. Deutsche Post is owned by DHL. The German mail service was privatised in the 90's. Paul Spragg once told me that Big Finish international packages went by DHL to Germany to be sorted, which I actually thought was quite strange for my mail. As sending a CD from the UK to Ireland via Germany wouldn't seem to be an obvious route, but DHL owning Deutsche Post kind of explained it. (!) Thank you, Dalek #1 for 100% clarifying that to me. I can now knowingly corroborate that *every* single one of my orders has been at least partially delivered by DHL and then passed on to Canada Post. With the combination of both those carriers my delivery service has been excellent! Note: I've only seen the Deutsche Post stickers on my Big Finish orders. The handful of times (about 10 occasions) that DHL actually completely delivered parcels to my door there have been some interesting challenges. Smashed items and being directed to the wrong pick up depots. So now, I won't be alarmed about Big Finish's recent put in writing statement: "All international parcels are shipped via DHL's Global Mail Packet service." Cheers!
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Post by fuurei on Sept 26, 2016 17:30:45 GMT
A 12 CD "per order charge" era delivery efficiently arrived yesterday to my doorstep from Canada Post with the usual German postage sticker without any indication of DHL involvement. Deutsche Post is owned by DHL. The German mail service was privatised in the 90's. Paul Spragg once told me that Big Finish international packages went by DHL to Germany to be sorted, which I actually thought was quite strange for my mail. As sending a CD from the UK to Ireland via Germany wouldn't seem to be an obvious route, but DHL owning Deutsche Post kind of explained it. (!) The irony about that is, I bet any German customers would still have to pay the international rates despite the packages all going to Germany anyway... unless there's a special exception for them?
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Post by mark687 on Sept 26, 2016 19:19:07 GMT
Deutsche Post is owned by DHL. The German mail service was privatised in the 90's. Paul Spragg once told me that Big Finish international packages went by DHL to Germany to be sorted, which I actually thought was quite strange for my mail. As sending a CD from the UK to Ireland via Germany wouldn't seem to be an obvious route, but DHL owning Deutsche Post kind of explained it. (!) The irony about that is, I bet any German customers would still have to pay the international rates despite the packages all going to Germany anyway... unless there's a special exception for them? There is actually a BF recommended supplier in Germany
www.luebbe.de/
obviously the site is written in German so I couldn't successfully navigate to find the BF Products.
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Post by fuurei on Sept 26, 2016 19:50:47 GMT
The irony about that is, I bet any German customers would still have to pay the international rates despite the packages all going to Germany anyway... unless there's a special exception for them? There is actually a BF recommended supplier in Germany
www.luebbe.de/
obviously the site is written in German so I couldn't successfully navigate to find the BF Products.
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mark687
I don't know much German, but I looked at the site out of curiosity and it seems that just searching for Big Finish directly reveals a bunch of audio downloads (conveniently, called 'audio-download' in German): www.luebbe.de/bastei-luebbe/suche?q=big+finishThat didn't seem to come up with any CDs, but searching for 'Doctor Who' directly did (and most of the results are Big Finish): www.luebbe.de/bastei-luebbe/suche?q=doctor+who&f=medium%3AHörbuch&s=score%3AdescThere seem to be many fewer search results there, so they may not have all CDs available, though I may have been searching for the wrong terms. Anyway, it seems both the CDs and downloads are in the ballpark of 15 Euros. I don't know enough German to figure out what their shipping policies would be locally.
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