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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 22:13:51 GMT
The prices of old releases do need to come down. Not necessarily to the £3 of the first 50 releases: Big Finish has the £5, £8, and £10 price points to play with.
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Post by jasonward on Feb 8, 2017 22:15:51 GMT
If BF did move towards boxsets for MR stories perhaps it would enable them to double up on some of the cast, potentially cutting costs and lowering prices a little. They already record 3 stories at once, which is why we get the trilogy releases, I can't see production costs fall because of boxsets.
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Post by aztec on Feb 8, 2017 22:21:57 GMT
If BF did move towards boxsets for MR stories perhaps it would enable them to double up on some of the cast, potentially cutting costs and lowering prices a little. They already record 3 stories at once, which is why we get the trilogy releases, I can't see production costs fall because of boxsets. Do the 1 hour stories have smaller casts than the double disc stories?
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Post by aztec on Feb 8, 2017 22:26:11 GMT
The prices of old releases do need to come down. Not necessarily to the £3 of the first 50 releases: Big Finish has the £5, £8, and £10 price points to play with. I'm very surprised they haven't reduced, at least say 50-75, it seems unlikely many new listeners would pay £13.99 for a 11-13 year old story when the first 50 are reduced so low (and now available for the most part on spotify) and there are regular sales anyway. You never know, maybe they will end up reprinting the first 50 some day...
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Post by barnabaslives on Feb 8, 2017 23:06:41 GMT
If this is following the fashion of the 4DAs, does that mean MR titles would be available in box sets AND individually? Not sure what is meant, but that might mean subscribers can choose to buy the box sets, hear the individual stories on download upon release, and then get the box set of CDs in a single shipment when all titles have been released, so that the shipping & handling fees are reduced.
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Post by mrperson on Feb 8, 2017 23:27:52 GMT
I hate change and I hate box sets! I would rather the Doctor Who Main Range continues as it always has done, a release every month dropping through my letter-box - and/or in to my download account - until the men in the black car with the oblong box arrive at my house. It's the one constant thing in my life since the Summer of 2000... If it's Nick's idea, sack him Jason!
Box sets? Bah! That's...... just a little extreme.
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Post by mrperson on Feb 8, 2017 23:29:55 GMT
Another issue is the recent-ish jump in postage. As a download-only customer, I'm not sure whether box sets would mitigate that or not. I'm also not sure how much the CD super-sub postage charge was, compared to 3x12-month and 1x6-month subscriptions. Thoughts, anyone? I think the cost of postage should be fairly reflected in CD purchases regardless of whether it's a box set or individually. I go with downloads because I can afford more releases that way. But, if people prefer to have hard copies lined up on their shelves, it's only fair that they pay whatever postage is appropriate. I certainly don't think that the question of box set v. monthly should be decided by postage.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 23:35:40 GMT
If this is following the fashion of the 4DAs, does that mean MR titles would be available in box sets AND individually? Not sure what is meant, but that might mean subscribers can choose to buy the box sets, hear the individual stories on download upon release, and then get the box set of CDs in a single shipment when all titles have been released, so that the shipping & handling fees are reduced. I think if Big Finish do actually go the Boxset way for the MR, I do think that they will actually release each story every month and then send out the boxsets once they all have been released.
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Post by Digi on Feb 9, 2017 0:12:55 GMT
I hate change and I hate box sets! I would rather the Doctor Who Main Range continues as it always has done, a release every month dropping through my letter-box - and/or in to my download account - until the men in the black car with the oblong box arrive at my house. It's the one constant thing in my life since the Summer of 2000... If it's Nick's idea, sack him Jason!
Box sets? Bah! That's...... just a little extreme. No kidding. I can't even fathom Big Finish without Nick.
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Post by bohnny on Feb 9, 2017 0:34:45 GMT
If this is following the fashion of the 4DAs, does that mean MR titles would be available in box sets AND individually? Not sure what is meant, but that might mean subscribers can choose to buy the box sets, hear the individual stories on download upon release, and then get the box set of CDs in a single shipment when all titles have been released, so that the shipping & handling fees are reduced. I think if Big Finish do actually go the Boxset way for the MR, I do think that they will actually release each story every month and then send out the boxsets once they all have been released. Which I think is what they did with Dark Shadows: Bloodlust. (I didn't get the CDs, but I think that is how it went.). I don't see why all the subscriber bonuses would necessarily disappear either - if people sub for 12 months then there is no reason the bonuses wouldn't still apply, or the free release either - unless BF decides to get rid of them as part of any shift to box sets because the incentive they offer is less necessary w a box set model?
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 9, 2017 0:46:47 GMT
The prices of old releases do need to come down. Not necessarily to the £3 of the first 50 releases: Big Finish has the £5, £8, and £10 price points to play with. I'm very surprised they haven't reduced, at least say 50-75, it seems unlikely many new listeners would pay £13.99 for a 11-13 year old story when the first 50 are reduced so low (and now available for the most part on spotify) and there are regular sales anyway. You never know, maybe they will end up reprinting the first 50 some day... Sure they will, Ive gotten them all now, and paid more than srp for many of them.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 9, 2017 0:49:52 GMT
That's...... just a little extreme. No kidding. I can't even fathom Big Finish without Nick. I thought Nick was Big Finish! He's got his paws in everything one way or another.
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Post by Digi on Feb 9, 2017 0:58:29 GMT
No kidding. I can't even fathom Big Finish without Nick. I thought Nick was Big Finish! He's got his paws in everything one way or another. It sure seems like it! Everything I've ever heard makes it sound like the highest echelon of Big Finish is the Triumvirate of Jason the owner, David the manager, and Nick the everything-else-man. (This is in no way meant to denigrate all the other Big Finish folks--I don't imagine Jason/David/Nick would have much of a Big Finish to run without everyone else's invaluable contributions)
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Post by elkawho on Feb 9, 2017 5:03:02 GMT
Nick Brigs confirms on his facebook long term plan for main range is to turn completely to boxsets. My thoughts are: ****, damn, and ****! I love having a monthly release. I really do not want to go months between MR releases. The only way this works for me is if they increase the production to the point where there is a box set containing an acting Doctor in each month (aka, not narrated CCs, not Doctor-absent releases). Then again, my vote doesn't count because I'll still end up buying them. For it to count, I'd actually have to refuse to buy them as a result of the change. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one. I love having a 2 hour story every month that I can count on. I guess if they release the downloads every month and then release the CD after the trilogy is complete I could live with that, since I don't get the CDs anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 6:59:57 GMT
Box sets suck. And with my spending on BF already falling anyway, it may end up killing my involvement with the current releases all together. I love the boxsets, they are cheaper! (Though most of the stories I've bought are 8th Doctor stories, and as the wilderness years Doctor with an ongoing story the 4x1 Hour format isn't breaking any traditions, it's probably easier for new listeners to commit to rather than a daunting run of multiple stand alone 4 parters) They're not cheaper. A sub is always cheaper than a box set, once you've factored in all the freebies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 8:38:24 GMT
Bugger. It was only a matter of time given the move to trilogies and it's a good way to avoid a serious bout of archive panic when they inevitably reach the three-hundred releases mark. I'm going to miss the standalone releases, I've always appreciated the opportunity to pick and choose. Oh, well.
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Post by pawntake on Feb 9, 2017 9:00:01 GMT
Sorry I have not been paying attention.What content will you get in a main range Boxset? Two 2 hour stories maybe??
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Post by mark687 on Feb 9, 2017 10:39:29 GMT
The situation seems to be at the moment in BF.
Boxsets seem the most cost-effective
New customers once in focus specifically on 1 Doctor at a time
A large potion of the customer base still prefer physical media.
Now the question is if they drop the 2 Disc Format dose that give the time to produce 4 Disc Boxsets for monthly release cause 1 DC Boxset takes about 8 months a 2 Disc MR takes about 6 or are thinking everything being 1 hour stories?
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Post by muckypup on Feb 9, 2017 11:11:11 GMT
are we not getting worked up over nothing, form the bits and bobs i have heard read it seems that the monthly range will be available to buy... 6 month, 12 month and soon as a 3 release box set (as in all episodes at once box set, not an actual box) to cover a single doctors trilogy (which is the 3 month sub that everyone wanted)as well as individually which is where i think where there will be a price rise.
they will be able to promote each doctors trilogy, unlike now where its either a "scary subscription" or dip your toe single release.
the only thing i can see happening is that the 13 releases a year may go as they have extended the licence now and could shift things up a few months.
you will still get the extras, pdf's & short trips to go with all but individual releases.
the free single release is there as a carrot to tempt you to by 12 months i don't see them doing away with that.
they are experimenting with the format which most of us are not that happy with, but the 4 parter is a tried and tested format that works for them they would be mad to change it for everything.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 11:14:57 GMT
Now the question is if they drop the 2 Disc Format dose that give the time to produce 4 Disc Boxsets for monthly release cause 1 DC Boxset takes about 8 months a 2 Disc MR takes about 6 or are thinking everything being 1 hour stories? One hour stories like Cryptobiosis and Night of the Stormcrow, you mean? I'd probably be in the camp against it, I rather like the standard length of a four-part story and Big Finish seem to have honed that format down to an artform. I'd hate to see it go just for the purposes of being cost effective or as something perceived as being more approachable to newcomers. It's got to be a difficult aspect of production to juggle, making sure that you have accessibility for potential new customers while at the same time trying to keep the old guard around.
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