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Post by coffeeaddict on May 28, 2017 19:55:09 GMT
Outside of this forum I have never heard any Doctor Who fans discussing a desire to have Jack back. You haven't looked far enough on the internet. The majority of the fan base wants Jack back. I have no desire to waste my time trolling the internet for a minority of fandom looking for the return of something the larger viewership isn't interested in. You and I clearly disagree on this issue, let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
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Post by doomlord on May 28, 2017 20:18:27 GMT
After today's Fan Fest convention which Barrowman attended, I'd say it's looking even less likely Jack will return as he never hinted anything about a return. Perhaps those who want to watch more of him as Captain Jack then they would do well to watch the majority of Torchwood for the first time. I'm sure the complete boxed set won't cost over £30.
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Post by coffeeaddict on May 28, 2017 20:30:41 GMT
After today's Fan Fest convention which Barrowman attended, I'd say it's looking even less likely Jack will return as he never hinted anything about a return. Perhaps those who want to watch more of him as Captain Jack then they would do well to watch the majority of Torchwood for the first time. I'm sure the complete boxed set won't cost over £30. When he spoke about it at the Ottawa con a few weeks ago he said it was unlikely to return to TV due to politics with the various people who hold rights to the show and to individual characters. He also said that some of the people who own character rights have hindered the ability of Big Finish to do full cast with the original cast.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 20:49:40 GMT
After today's Fan Fest convention which Barrowman attended, I'd say it's looking even less likely Jack will return as he never hinted anything about a return. Perhaps those who want to watch more of him as Captain Jack then they would do well to watch the majority of Torchwood for the first time. I'm sure the complete boxed set won't cost over £30. When he spoke about it at the Ottawa con a few weeks ago he said it was unlikely to return to TV due to politics with the various people who hold rights to the show and to individual characters. He also said that some of the people who own character rights have hindered the ability of Big Finish to do full cast with the original cast. It sounds as if negotiations have entered the wilderness of 'rights' - how frustrating. It seems less likely Torchwood will return to the television than Jack reappearing in Doctor Who - which seems less likely than ever. With Chris Chibnall's 'new slate' fast approaching, Jack will be less likely to appear than he was under Steven Moffat.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 28, 2017 22:13:48 GMT
After today's Fan Fest convention which Barrowman attended, I'd say it's looking even less likely Jack will return as he never hinted anything about a return. Perhaps those who want to watch more of him as Captain Jack then they would do well to watch the majority of Torchwood for the first time. I'm sure the complete boxed set won't cost over £30. Contracts may not have been drawn up yet fot Series 11.
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Post by stcoop on May 28, 2017 22:37:25 GMT
He's been pretty clear that Moffat didn't want him back but you'd think Chibnall might be more aminable based on their past relationship. That said, I'm expecting the next series to be very much a clean slate relaunch and can understand if they don't want to bring anybody from the past back.
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Post by doomlord on May 28, 2017 23:32:28 GMT
After today's Fan Fest convention which Barrowman attended, I'd say it's looking even less likely Jack will return as he never hinted anything about a return. Perhaps those who want to watch more of him as Captain Jack then they would do well to watch the majority of Torchwood for the first time. I'm sure the complete boxed set won't cost over £30. Contracts may not have been drawn up yet fot Series 11. Now that makes sense. Series 11 is a long way off but the only contract most of fandom are interested in right now is who the next actor is to play the Doctor. Plenty of time to catch up on all the Torchwood episodes you've yet to watch.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 6:52:36 GMT
You haven't looked far enough on the internet. The majority of the fan base wants Jack back. I have no desire to waste my time trolling the internet for a minority of fandom looking for the return of something the larger viewership isn't interested in. You and I clearly disagree on this issue, let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that. I think you mean trawling, as in fishing. Trolling the internet is a very different activity.
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Post by acousticwolf on May 29, 2017 8:00:24 GMT
I have no desire to waste my time trolling the internet for a minority of fandom looking for the return of something the larger viewership isn't interested in. You and I clearly disagree on this issue, let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that. I think you mean trawling, as in fishing. Trolling the internet is a very different activity. Fishing for Trolls? Cheers Tony
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 29, 2017 10:21:56 GMT
Contracts may not have been drawn up yet fot Series 11. Now that makes sense. Series 11 is a long way off but the only contract most of fandom are interested in right now is who the next actor is to play the Doctor. Plenty of time to catch up on all the Torchwood episodes you've yet to watch. I watched Everything Changes yesterday and it struck me how similar it was to Rose in introducing you to the world of Torchwood. I think it did the introductory stuff better than Rose though.
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Post by doomlord on May 29, 2017 13:54:19 GMT
There you go then, a good dose of new Captain Jack for you. I'm surprised it's taken you this long, already. Have fun watching the rest of Torchwood for the first time.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on May 30, 2017 4:34:42 GMT
After today's Fan Fest convention which Barrowman attended, I'd say it's looking even less likely Jack will return as he never hinted anything about a return. Perhaps those who want to watch more of him as Captain Jack then they would do well to watch the majority of Torchwood for the first time. I'm sure the complete boxed set won't cost over £30. When he spoke about it at the Ottawa con a few weeks ago he said it was unlikely to return to TV due to politics with the various people who hold rights to the show and to individual characters. He also said that some of the people who own character rights have hindered the ability of Big Finish to do full cast with the original cast. Barrowman's been known for saying things that aren't entirely truthful, though. See his inflammatory comments about Moffat preventing Torchwood from coming back, which Moffat not only denied, he said he couldn't do if he wanted to.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 30, 2017 9:01:21 GMT
When he spoke about it at the Ottawa con a few weeks ago he said it was unlikely to return to TV due to politics with the various people who hold rights to the show and to individual characters. He also said that some of the people who own character rights have hindered the ability of Big Finish to do full cast with the original cast. Barrowman's been known for saying things that aren't entirely truthful, though. See his inflammatory comments about Moffat preventing Torchwood from coming back, which Moffat not only denied, he said he couldn't do if he wanted to. I think John Barrowman's problem is that he doesn't always think before he speaks. He seems to say a lot of stuff I imagine he probably regrets afterwards.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 12, 2017 21:20:59 GMT
The people have spoken. They want Jack back.
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 12, 2017 21:26:48 GMT
But what the public want and what they're going to get can be two very different things.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 12, 2017 21:28:01 GMT
But what the public want and what they're going to get can be two very different things. True, but bringing back a character people want to see return makes sense when you have a controversial change like a female Doctor.
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 12, 2017 21:36:49 GMT
But what the public want and what they're going to get can be two very different things. True, but bringing back a character people want to see return makes sense when you have a controversial change like a female Doctor. Also true, but bringing characters back isn't exactly a regular thing for Doctor Who, especially in the Classic Series - if you were a companion and you left the show, the probability of you ever returning was next to nothing (there were a small handful or reappearances/cameos, but not many). To start bringing back characters (basically) for the sake of it feels kind of unnecessary to me. Besides, there's already plenty of Jack material, and more coming through Big Finish; we don't really need any more TV appearances (unless Torchwood returns to TV - I love the Big Finish stuff, but I wouldn't say no to another visual series ).
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 12, 2017 21:38:47 GMT
True, but bringing back a character people want to see return makes sense when you have a controversial change like a female Doctor. Also true, but bringing characters back isn't exactly a regular thing for Doctor Who, especially in the Classic Series - if you were a companion and you left the show, the probability of you ever returning was next to nothing (there were a small handful or reappearances/cameos, but not many). To start bringing back characters (basically) for the sake of it feels kind of unnecessary to me. Besides, there's already plenty of Jack material, and more coming through Big Finish; we don't really need any more TV appearances (unless Torchwood returns to TV - I love the Big Finish stuff, but I wouldn't say more to another visual series ). Whilst it's true that there has to be a narrative reason for Jack's return, I don't think it would be too hard for a reason to be made up given that Jack has a Vortex Manipulator and therefore the ability to travel through time and space.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 21:46:03 GMT
But what the public want and what they're going to get can be two very different things. Exactly. This isn't X-Factor. We don't vote on creativity. Is there a story worth telling with Jack? Sure - I'd imagine lots of writers have plenty in mind...but if Chibnall doesn't want one and his writers don't pitch one, I'd rather he didn't just come back for the sake of it. Surely it's not as big a deal to us BF listeners since we get quite a bit of new Jack material every few months now anyway? The people who don't listen to BF might feel like he's been gone too long but for me? Aliens Among Us was only a few months ago and he's back again soon again. We get plenty of Captain Jack. Given Jack's pansexuality I don't even think, as some have said, there's anything remotely interesting in seeing how he plays off Jodie. Answer: Just as he did off Chris and David.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 12, 2017 21:53:39 GMT
But what the public want and what they're going to get can be two very different things. Exactly. This isn't X-Factor. We don't vote on creativity. Actually, I think a Doctor Who version of X Factor would be great. Maybe make it more like the Andrew Lloyd Webber shows, voting for who you want to be the next Doctor. Each week the potential Doctors perform various speeches from the show's history, and eventually wittled down until only three are left. Judges could be the current showrunner at the time, Andy Pryor (if he's still the casting director at the time), the current producer and a Who-related guest. Presented by Graham Norton. I'd rather he did, just so that we can see the character finally return on TV. I'm sure they can find a narrative reason to bring him back. Would he recognise her as the Doctor or aasume she is the Doctor's companion? I also think seeing Jack flirt with Jodie Whittaker's Doctor would be fun.
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