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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 22:10:26 GMT
A fan vote for the Doctor with Andy Prior as a judge? That's out-there even for you, buddy. Who the hell is going to put themselves up for the role to have to publicly audition every Saturday for public entertainment and embarrassment when they get the boot? You think actors the caliber that we've had in New Who would demean themselves with reality tv auditions? You think Andy and the showrunner would go along with whoever the public want even if it's someone they wouldn't want themselves? Absolute insanity. Still.....never boring reading, DB!
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Post by sherlock on Oct 12, 2017 22:42:43 GMT
The people have spoken. They want Jack back. TV ain't a democracy. Plus a Radio Times poll is hardly the most reliable method of analysing what the entire audience wants.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Oct 13, 2017 6:43:37 GMT
The people have spoken. They want Jack back. TV ain't a democracy. Plus a Radio Times poll is hardly the most reliable method of analysing what the entire audience wants. As the new showrunner said, a TV show isn't a focus group. And he's right.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 13, 2017 7:00:22 GMT
Who the hell is going to put themselves up for the role to have to publicly audition every Saturday for public entertainment and embarrassment when they get the boot? You think actors the caliber that we've had in New Who would demean themselves with reality tv auditions? Why not? Plenty of singers audition for The X Factor and The Voice. Plenty of talented performers audition for Britain's Got Talent. Plenty of musical theatre performers competed on the Andrew Lloyd Webber shows. Yeah, because it would show he or she is well-liked by the public.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 13, 2017 7:01:15 GMT
TV ain't a democracy. Plus a Radio Times poll is hardly the most reliable method of analysing what the entire audience wants. As the new showrunner said, a TV show isn't a focus group. And he's right. For Captain Jack it should be.
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Post by sherlock on Oct 13, 2017 8:57:45 GMT
Who the hell is going to put themselves up for the role to have to publicly audition every Saturday for public entertainment and embarrassment when they get the boot? You think actors the caliber that we've had in New Who would demean themselves with reality tv auditions? Why not? Plenty of singers audition for The X Factor and The Voice. Plenty of talented performers audition for Britain's Got Talent. Plenty of musical theatre performers competed on the Andrew Lloyd Webber shows. Yeah, because it would show he or she is well-liked by the public. Since when is the general public a good judge of acting talent? Also isn't the whole point to shows like X Factor and BGT that the contestants are 'ordinary members of the the public' (I mean I know they're often not, it's blantantly manipulative but point stands).
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Post by sherlock on Oct 13, 2017 9:00:25 GMT
As the new showrunner said, a TV show isn't a focus group. And he's right. For Captain Jack it should be. Just wondering, why do you have such a liking for Jack? Don't get me wrong he's entertaining enough, I'm just wondering what you like about him so much that you're so determined he should return.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 9:56:52 GMT
Who the hell is going to put themselves up for the role to have to publicly audition every Saturday for public entertainment and embarrassment when they get the boot? You think actors the caliber that we've had in New Who would demean themselves with reality tv auditions? Why not? Plenty of singers audition for The X Factor and The Voice. Plenty of talented performers audition for Britain's Got Talent. Plenty of musical theatre performers competed on the Andrew Lloyd Webber shows. Yeah, because it would show he or she is well-liked by the public. Plenty of nobodies trying to start out. No singing equivalent of Eccleston, Smith, Tennant, Capaldi or Whittaker has ever auditioned for X-Factor. You'd kiss goodbye to any established actor ever auditioning again. And no, it wouldn't show the person was liked by the public - it would show they did well on a reality show. Plenty of X-Factor winners - by your logic liked by the public so automatically successful - end up flopping after the initial single or two because no-one cares long-term. You really should think things through to their logical conclusions before posting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 9:58:08 GMT
For Captain Jack it should be. Just wondering, why do you have such a liking for Jack? Don't get me wrong he's entertaining enough, I'm just wondering what you like about him so much that you're so determined he should return. And as established in this thread earlier, without even seeing all of Torchwood. Such a clamour to see more of Jack without bothering to see the Jack that's already out there....
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 13, 2017 11:16:46 GMT
Since when is the general public a good judge of acting talent? Since the last time David Tennant won a 'Best Actor' award voted by the public. Why couldn't you have an ordinary member of the public whose an actor who has never had his big break?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 13, 2017 11:17:40 GMT
For Captain Jack it should be. Just wondering, why do you have such a liking for Jack? Don't get me wrong he's entertaining enough, I'm just wondering what you like about him so much that you're so determined he should return. I just find him an extremely likeable character who adds a lot to the episodes he appears in.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 13, 2017 11:23:56 GMT
Why not? Plenty of singers audition for The X Factor and The Voice. Plenty of talented performers audition for Britain's Got Talent. Plenty of musical theatre performers competed on the Andrew Lloyd Webber shows. Yeah, because it would show he or she is well-liked by the public. No singing equivalent of Eccleston, Smith, Tennant, Capaldi or Whittaker has ever auditioned for X-Factor. Shayne Ward, Joe McElderry, Olly Murs, Andrea Faustini and Leona Lewis. Personally I wasn't that fussed about Shayne Ward and Leona Lewis during their time on X Factor but I cannot deny that they are hugely talented and have very powerful voices. The point of talent shows is that you are voting for the whole package - talent, performance, personality, their appearance. I don't get why people seem to count talent shows as reality shows as they're completely different genres IMO. Reality shows are much more about personality whereas talent shows are more specific.
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Post by sherlock on Oct 13, 2017 13:21:21 GMT
No singing equivalent of Eccleston, Smith, Tennant, Capaldi or Whittaker has ever auditioned for X-Factor. Shayne Ward, Joe McElderry, Olly Murs, Andrea Faustini and Leona Lewis. Personally I wasn't that fussed about Shayne Ward and Leona Lewis during their time on X Factor but I cannot deny that they are hugely talented and have very powerful voices. The point of talent shows is that you are voting for the whole package - talent, performance, personality, their appearance. I don't get why people seem to count talent shows as reality shows as they're completely different genres IMO. Reality shows are much more about personality whereas talent shows are more specific. Never heard of Shayne Ward or Andrea Faustini if I'm honest. From what I've seen people just tend to base their votes in talent shows on personality rather than talent. Hence why in Strictly celebrities who really can't dance tend to get quite far, can't speak for X Factor as I haven't watched in about 5 years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 13:55:00 GMT
No singing equivalent of Eccleston, Smith, Tennant, Capaldi or Whittaker has ever auditioned for X-Factor. Shayne Ward, Joe McElderry, Olly Murs, Andrea Faustini and Leona Lewis. Personally I wasn't that fussed about Shayne Ward and Leona Lewis during their time on X Factor but I cannot deny that they are hugely talented and have very powerful voices. The point of talent shows is that you are voting for the whole package - talent, performance, personality, their appearance. I don't get why people seem to count talent shows as reality shows as they're completely different genres IMO. Reality shows are much more about personality whereas talent shows are more specific. They weren't those big names before the show though, what's your point? They were pub singers and amateurs. That would be like scouring am-dram for the next Doctor. Since anyone with even an iota of sense knows how stupid your idea is, there's not much point continuing. Boggles the mind you can study TV and still not see how your ideas and opinions are so far beyond crazy they almost become parody.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 13, 2017 14:00:05 GMT
Shayne Ward, Joe McElderry, Olly Murs, Andrea Faustini and Leona Lewis. Personally I wasn't that fussed about Shayne Ward and Leona Lewis during their time on X Factor but I cannot deny that they are hugely talented and have very powerful voices. The point of talent shows is that you are voting for the whole package - talent, performance, personality, their appearance. I don't get why people seem to count talent shows as reality shows as they're completely different genres IMO. Reality shows are much more about personality whereas talent shows are more specific. They weren't those big names before the show though, what's your point? They were pub singers and amateurs. That would be like scouring am-dram for the next Doctor. Since anyone with even an iota of sense knows how stupid your idea is, there's not much point continuing. Boggles the mind you can study TV and still not see how your ideas and opinions are so far beyond crazy they almost become parody. Matt Smith was hardly a big name before he was cast as the Doctor. You seem to be disputing their talent because they used a talent show to make a name for themselves.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 13, 2017 14:12:35 GMT
DW should be about acting and writing not singing and dancing IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 15:23:05 GMT
They weren't those big names before the show though, what's your point? They were pub singers and amateurs. That would be like scouring am-dram for the next Doctor. Since anyone with even an iota of sense knows how stupid your idea is, there's not much point continuing. Boggles the mind you can study TV and still not see how your ideas and opinions are so far beyond crazy they almost become parody. Almost?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 15:51:25 GMT
They weren't those big names before the show though, what's your point? They were pub singers and amateurs. That would be like scouring am-dram for the next Doctor. Since anyone with even an iota of sense knows how stupid your idea is, there's not much point continuing. Boggles the mind you can study TV and still not see how your ideas and opinions are so far beyond crazy they almost become parody. Almost? Yes - almost. To say they're actual parody would imply a level of self-awareness on the behalf of the poster I don't think exists.
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Post by sherlock on Oct 13, 2017 15:57:19 GMT
Just wondering, why do you have such a liking for Jack? Don't get me wrong he's entertaining enough, I'm just wondering what you like about him so much that you're so determined he should return. I just find him an extremely likeable character who adds a lot to the episodes he appears in. Surely the same can be said of most companions? So why does Jack get to come back rather than any others?
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Post by doomlord on Oct 13, 2017 18:20:37 GMT
The people have spoken. They want Jack back. TV ain't a democracy. Plus a Radio Times poll is hardly the most reliable method of analysing what the entire audience wants. Not when the Radio Times polls allow multiple votes on a refresh.
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