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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 19:35:04 GMT
As PDT says above, if this were some other adaptation we may well be much more excited but as adaptations of the German sub-licence books it's really not the keys to the kingdom that really would get fans buzzing. Even BF seem to know it's not going to get people too excited given the complete absence of hype for the announcement. If there was a licence for full cast Trek that would be teased all over their social media for ages before announcing. I'd rather not get my hopes up, honestly. To that end, it would be nice if Big Finish would give us some kind of clue as to any potential future between them & Star Trek. I understand that they probably can't but if I knew future projects were potentially a thing, I would be much more inclined to give this a purchase. I'd be inclined to think that etting the rights from the German publisher - who BF already worked with - doesn't mean they get a foot in the door with Pocket Books or CBS which could be a totally different ball game. I'm all for getting hyped but I won't be fancasting my ideal Enterprise F crew just yet as tempting as it may be. I've seen a few people on facebook who seem to now think it's only a matter of time before Patrick Stewart and Bill Shatner are doing BF or that BF becomes the new home of the Prime Universe continuation post Nemesis....that's only gonna end up disappointing them. I mean...if you have the rights to something big like Trek, you don't start with something like this, and do so with less fanfare than even the most obscure BF range gets. I guess a close comparison would be The Avengers - BF got the rights from Studiocanal to adapt Season 1, the Peel comics and a novel but can't - at last we heard - make any new Avengers stories. At least that was full cast and filled a massive bit of lost canon with the Keel stories. I sincerely hope I'm entirely wrong - I'd love to be! I think it's also telling the range tab is "Star Trek Prometheus" rather than just "Star Trek".
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jul 4, 2018 19:39:13 GMT
No, I completely agree with you. I'd love to see BF becoming one of the main homes of Star Trek but the rational person in me knows it isn't likely to happen. I would love to be totally wrong as well.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jul 4, 2018 20:27:38 GMT
Has anyone actually, you know, bought this? I bought it. I don’t usually read the Trek novels that aren’t based on characters from TV, but I figure that BF is more likely to do more Trek if they get high sales from this one. I’ll probably start listening to it tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 21:42:50 GMT
I'd love to see BF becoming one of the main homes of Star Trek but the rational person in me knows it isn't likely to happen. I would love to be totally wrong as well. This is probably the one time when most of us here wouldn't actually mind being wrong!
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Post by stcoop on Jul 4, 2018 21:57:51 GMT
I would LOVE for Big Finish to do proper 24th-century Star Trek. But let's keep some perspective about how likely that is to happen - this is a seriously low-key launch for what has to be the lowest-hanging fruit they could find, licensing-wise. I wonder if this proposition was ever given more but the most cursory of glances by CBS? As I understand it the German publishers had audiobook rights as part of their deal so BF sub-licensed it from them. They haven't had any contact with CBS and are in no position to produce anything else Star Trek related.
If Pocket Books can't get their license renewed after nearly 40 years of publishing books, just think how much further back BF would be in any negotiations.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jul 4, 2018 23:01:02 GMT
Seriously though ..... USS Titan full cast audios. Established characters who have no established actors barring Tim Russ, Jonathan Frakes, Marina Sirtis and Daphne Ashbrook. And Riker, Tuvok anf Troi can all be easily written out as Riker’s an Admiral now so he and Troi can be transferred off Ship for the stories and Tuvok be off providing security of them. A few familiar voices would be good though. How about Captain Geordi LaForge of the USS Challenger? Challenger got blown up in the novel “Indistinguishable from Magic”, the same novel that killed off Scotty.
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Post by dannybl on Jul 4, 2018 23:43:22 GMT
A few familiar voices would be good though. How about Captain Geordi LaForge of the USS Challenger? Challenger got blown up in the novel “Indistinguishable from Magic”, the same novel that killed off Scotty. Nuts. Give him another Galaxy class ship then! (Third time lucky, right?) mind you that’s just novel continuity Online went in another direction...
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Post by redsharkJason on Jul 5, 2018 1:56:32 GMT
I'm giving this 3-part (straight reading) audiobook a miss. The televised series and movies of Star Trek are plenty enough for me. I haven't even bothered to listen to my Jack Gerson audiobook purchases yet! So I feel guilty about that...and the prospect of eventually experiencing them appeals to me more than this Star Trek expanded universe offering.
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Post by The Matt on Jul 5, 2018 8:05:42 GMT
I would love BF to get the Star Trek licence. A full cast audio of a new ship and a new crew would 100% be a definite buy for me. I can live in hope i guess.
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Post by dannybl on Jul 5, 2018 9:04:19 GMT
To that end, it would be nice if Big Finish would give us some kind of clue as to any potential future between them & Star Trek. I understand that they probably can't but if I knew future projects were potentially a thing, I would be much more inclined to give this a purchase. I'd be inclined to think that etting the rights from the German publisher - who BF already worked with - doesn't mean they get a foot in the door with Pocket Books or CBS which could be a totally different ball game. I'm all for getting hyped but I won't be fancasting my ideal Enterprise F crew just yet as tempting as it may be. I've seen a few people on facebook who seem to now think it's only a matter of time before Patrick Stewart and Bill Shatner are doing BF or that BF becomes the new home of the Prime Universe continuation post Nemesis....that's only gonna end up disappointing them. I mean...if you have the rights to something big like Trek, you don't start with something like this, and do so with less fanfare than even the most obscure BF range gets. I guess a close comparison would be The Avengers - BF got the rights from Studiocanal to adapt Season 1, the Peel comics and a novel but can't - at last we heard - make any new Avengers stories. At least that was full cast and filled a massive bit of lost canon with the Keel stories. I sincerely hope I'm entirely wrong - I'd love to be! I think it's also telling the range tab is "Star Trek Prometheus" rather than just "Star Trek". If Prometheus does well Big Finish could use it to show they have a market for Star Trek, either as drama or audiobooks, hence why they're asking fans which other stories they want to hear. CBS seem to work with IDW for new stories mostly, in comics. The books have been halted for some reason?! New Frontier seems to be a popular answer as well as continuing the 24th century shows, either in new stories or adapting Destiny. There's a huge call for full cast, but Im not sure Big Finish could afford huge reunions like Blake's 7?! Also adaptations of things like the DS9 books and even New Frontier require certain actors to reprise their roles, even in guest roles - but how much would an author appreciate their work being rewritten for drama? Audiobooks are fine though. Who they'd get is another question. I'm always surprised when Trekvets these days reprise roles, but we've had Renegades [fan film then independent film], Online [game] and that exhibition thing with Wesley and Tuvok on the Titan. It's worth noting that THR and Variety believe that CBS are about to sign Sir Pat to reprise Picard for a new TV project, believed to be a miniseries. A hot topic over the years has been whether or not Shat would return as Kirk. Itr was mooted for Enterprise and the JJ Films but never happened. With Big Finish it would be far easier - there's the Kirk Autobiography of course which is all first person, plus if BF did all-new stuff then they could revisit the Shatnerverse? Work around Nimoy, Kelley and Doohan's absences by doing a storyline surrounding Spock's disappearance at Hobus - the books were also semi autobiographical so this could continue that.
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Post by muckypup on Jul 5, 2018 9:34:38 GMT
I am afraid this will go the way of the other big licences they have tried...…..one or two release then that's it.....cause everyone says they want them but no one buys them!
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Post by Digi on Jul 5, 2018 11:42:38 GMT
What I find weird about this is that it’s freaking Star Trek and yet there’s been almost zero in the way of promotion. A brief bit in the podcast (which only a fraction of the audience listens to), a few days later it just suddenly appears as two same-day releases on the main page, and the next day it’s bumped and gone again.
Very strange way to approach what one would think should be promoted as heavily as they did The Prisoner.
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Post by mark687 on Jul 5, 2018 12:01:38 GMT
What I find weird about this is that it’s freaking Star Trek and yet there’s been almost zero in the way of promotion. A brief bit in the podcast (which only a fraction of the audience listens to), a few days later it just suddenly appears as two same-day releases on the main page, and the next day it’s bumped and gone again. Very strange way to approach what one would think should be promoted as heavily as they did The Prisoner. But their plain read Dl only Audiobooks with an expanded universe crew there's only so much you can hype them, now if they featured a TV crew maybe more could've been done.
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Post by randomjc on Jul 5, 2018 12:02:52 GMT
I am afraid this will go the way of the other big licences they have tried...…..one or two release then that's it.....cause everyone says they want them but no one buys them! With this, I think it's fair to say what people wanted wasn't a straight reading audiobook of a translated German novel with a mixed reception. I think even a straight reading audiobook of new frontier would at least generate interest. They could have at least found a better book for this.
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Post by Digi on Jul 5, 2018 12:09:50 GMT
I am afraid this will go the way of the other big licences they have tried...…..one or two release then that's it.....cause everyone says they want them but no one buys them! I think even a straight reading audiobook of new frontier would at least generate interest. They could have at least found a better book for this. I read a couple of those. They were trash—bad fanfic, if I’m being exceedingly generous. Of the little Trek I’ve read, I’m very happy they didn’t waste their time on New Frontier.
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Post by pawntake on Jul 5, 2018 12:21:34 GMT
I am afraid this will go the way of the other big licences they have tried...…..one or two release then that's it.....cause everyone says they want them but no one buys them! With this, I think it's fair to say what people wanted wasn't a straight reading audiobook of a translated German novel with a mixed reception. I think even a straight reading audiobook of new frontier would at least generate interest. YOUR Last phrase is interesting (at least generate interest.) There is a rumour about this on social media(Eleven hour audio???) Some weeks ago. Then it is confirmed in the last podcast.Nick said something like, "Star Trek Prometheus confirmed,BUT! I have no more details that's it!!Let move on" Wednesday it is released!!! IT is suddenly put into the July slot!!Not even a trailer???Seems a little strange to me!!!
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Post by randomjc on Jul 5, 2018 12:22:24 GMT
I think even a straight reading audiobook of new frontier would at least generate interest. They could have at least found a better book for this. I read a couple of those. They were trash—bad fanfic, if I’m being exceedingly generous. Of the little Trek I’ve read, I’m very happy they didn’t waste their time on New Frontier. Ok. Well I thought they were pretty good. I enjoyed them quite a lot.
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Post by randomjc on Jul 5, 2018 12:26:51 GMT
With this, I think it's fair to say what people wanted wasn't a straight reading audiobook of a translated German novel with a mixed reception. I think even a straight reading audiobook of new frontier would at least generate interest. YOUR Last phrase is interesting (at least generate interest.) There is a rumour about this on social media(Eleven hour audio???) Some weeks ago. Then it is confirmed in the last podcast.Nick said something like, "Star Trek Prometheus confirmed,BUT! I have no more details that's it!!Let move on" Wednesday it is released!!! IT is suddenly put into the July slot!!Not even a trailer???Seems a little strange to me!!!
That is such a speedy turn around. I know I'm in and out on big finish and the forums, but I didn't think I was so out of touch id miss a Star trek release. That kind of explains a lot if it's just been dumped. But I also don't know what Nick Briggs thinks of Star Trek, and he does have a habit of underselling things he isn't personally interested in.
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Post by x2magneto on Jul 5, 2018 15:33:18 GMT
Huge Star Trek fan am I, who, of course, is blown away by the idea of Big Finish doing Trek. But, being the whale of a fan-boy (I try not to be, honest) that I am, I am more interested in full cast audio dramas that either feature a Federation ship/station/post of Big Finish origin (can you imagine!) or the furthering adventures of television (pipe dream.) For instance, can you imagine a series centered around DS9, but set during the Occupation of Bajor when the station was under heel of Gul Dukat? I can! The voice of Marc Alaimo is perfect for Big Finish. The characterization he brings is unmatched, I say. The series could be called Terok Nor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 17:08:55 GMT
I am afraid this will go the way of the other big licences they have tried...…..one or two release then that's it.....cause everyone says they want them but no one buys them! Looking at responses to the news on Big Finish Twitter feed, lots of people reacting OTT as if Christmas has come early. It's gonna be a blockbuster if they are sincere people. For myself, Star Trek is anything with William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy in it, to be of interest. That leaves the Animated Series as the only significant gap on my shelf. I have tried so many times over the years, but all other tangents such as TNG & DS9 never strike me as any more than spin-off or 'license extension'. A bit like if we had got 'Son of Dr Who' instead of regeneration. Or replaced Doctor Who with a soapy saga set on Gallifrey with a few former companions & guest stars.
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